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So Weidman vs. Belfort - What does Vitor bring to the table?

ErnestoRoost said:
It wasn't trading in the pocket that Lyoto had to be mindful of--it was early TDs and everything bad that would do for his game.

If Chris wasn't so good at them, Lyoto would have traded all day, because he's the far better striker, whether he's on the attack or countering.
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You're right, Machida is a better striker than Weidman. Weidman did a damn good job of creating circumstances to make himself look like and be the better/more effective striker though.

Vitor beats Weidman in the first or second, if the fight goes longer he's in trouble.
 
I think Vitor has improved TDD from 10 years ago... I think he also has a higher drive and better mental game... That being said... Weidman has never faced the speed/power combo Vitor is gonna bring at him. Like Weidman though Vitor is gonna need to work on conditioning in case he doesn't get a first round finish...
 
He's a much more dangerous finisher then Machida is
 
IloveTHIS said:
and Weidman will make him pay every time. After Vitor misses with his first 2 or 3 explosions and sees Weidman still standing right there walking him down, he will wilt and get subbed. in under 3 rounds with out a doubt. Machida was a much tougher test
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Before last night I was picking Belfort, but now I agree with this analysis. Weidman brings the pressure and wrestling to make Vitor quit in the first 3 rounds.
 
#VitorJustFailed

Until he wins a fight off the sauce, the multiple time offender does not deserve a title fight.
 
Vitor brings speed, power, aggression and experience.

I'm not sure how the speed plays out post TRT, the aggression is what got him into trouble against Silva and the power will be interesting given what Weidman withstood against Machida.

But it's the experience that will be the X factor here. Belfort's craftiness is what brought with in seconds of subbing Jon Jones. Ultimately it wasn't enough but I still wouldn't sleep on Belfort in this fight.
 
Prider said:
Vitor brings speed, power, aggression and experience.

I'm not sure how the speed plays out post TRT, the aggression is what got him into trouble against Silva and the power will be interesting given what Weidman withstood against Machida.

But it's the experience that will be the X factor here. Belfort's craftiness is what brought with in seconds of subbing Jon Jones. Ultimately it wasn't enough but I still wouldn't sleep on Belfort in this fight.
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That's a good point about Belfort's performance against Jones. He almost submitted him. I still have the image of Belfort getting beaten down twice by Randy Couture stuck in my mind but if we look at recent performances Belfort's takedown defense has been really good and his ground game has been good as well. Jones still broke him but not as badly as Couture. I think Middleweight is the ideal weight class for Belfort though and I don't think Weidman will have such an easy time manhandling Vitor. Weidman wasn't able to do much to Machida on the ground and while I think Machida has the better takedown defense I think Belfort's is good enough to keep him out of danger.

The standup exchanges should be interesting. Vitor has developed better timing and patience enabling him to blitz at just the right moment. He can also do this as early in the fight as possible making him dangerous from the opening bell. If he can catch Weidman early he should be able to put him away. If Machida was aggressive from the beginning I think he might have beaten Weidman but that's just not his style. He's a counter striker and needs to feel his opponent out before working his striking game. Belfort has the gift of being able to get a fighter's timing down early and capitalize. I hope everything works out with Vitor and the athletic commission so we can see a great fight.
 
Vitor is taking that belt and it will be the biggest meltdown on sherdog seeing the hate he gets around here.
 
The chance of knocking chris down with strikes and finishing him.

So about a 10% chance.
 
MysticNinjaJay said:
I think that if he wins, beating Weidman without TRT he will get a lot of respect on Sherdog.
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I hope so, but I doubt it. Most Silva fans became Weidman fans after Weidman vs Silva 1 and 2. Ppl love Weidman and I think it would be a hard pill for them to swallow that their new undefeated hero showed he is human, just like we seen Silva is human. But, nothing would make me happier than Vitor beating Weidman and proving everyone wrong.
 
MysticNinjaJay said:
I think that if he wins, beating Weidman without TRT he will get a lot of respect on Sherdog.
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I highly doubt that. People will say he is on steroids and a cheater and doesn't deserve to be champion. You have a 2006 join date, how can you expect any respect from sherdoggers?
 
ErnestoRoost said:
It wasn't trading in the pocket that Lyoto had to be mindful of--it was early TDs and everything bad that would do for his game.

If Chris wasn't so good at them, Lyoto would have traded all day, because he's the far better striker, whether he's on the attack or countering.
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Lyoto doesnt trade with anyone. Weidman has shown he can handle any counter striker, Vitor is a very different fighter though.
 
omawho402 said:
I hope so, but I doubt it. Most Silva fans became Weidman fans after Weidman vs Silva 1 and 2. Ppl love Weidman and I think it would be a hard pill for them to swallow that their new undefeated hero showed he is human, just like we seen Silva is human. But, nothing would make me happier than Vitor beating Weidman and proving everyone wrong.
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Silva fans becoming Weidman fans? I cannot stand Weidman and I am a Silva fan and I've seen most other Silva fans not liking him either. It was all the Silva haters that became Weidman fans imo.
 
SherdogGoat said:
I highly doubt that. People will say he is on steroids and a cheater and doesn't deserve to be champion. You have a 2006 join date, how can you expect any respect from sherdoggers?
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The haters will say that. I think the majority of Sherdoggers will respect Belfort for a decisive win.
 
I don't think he brings too much, actually. Machida was dangerous because of his overall game, cardio and techniques.

With Vitor he basically has to get a KO somehow, because Weidman will be taking him down for sure. Vitor doesn't have the technique or cardio to match Machida. If Vitor can't KO Weidman by the 2nd round, which I seriously doubt he can do, it's all Weidman after that. He'll smother him and probably finish him or win a decision.
 
MysticNinjaJay said:
The haters will say that. I think the majority of Sherdoggers will respect Belfort for a decisive win.
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I highly doubt that but I hope you are right. The amount of hate Vitor gets makes me think most people here outright cannot stand him.
 
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