So if I merely de-emphasize heavy strength training, I'll still make personal records?

[Baby Hanma]

In a previous thread, one of the responders mentioned that he usually gets weaker during training phases where strength is not the priority. I'm afraid it might happen to me.

There will be some weeks in the training phase that I plan on doing soon where there won't be the usual heavy stuff. Just weighted cardio by way of kettlebells.

So, what do you think?

Thanks.

 

[mr.sandman]

You wont know before you try. Even if you loose strength, getting back what you lost should be much easier thrn the first time around, muscle memory etc. I wouldnt worry about it too much

 

[mixmastermo]

In a previous thread, one of the responders mentioned that he usually gets weaker during training phases where strength is not the priority. I'm afraid it might happen to me.

There will be some weeks in the training phase that I plan on doing soon where there won't be the usual heavy stuff. Just weighted cardio by way of kettlebells.

So, what do you think?

Thanks.

Interesting question. Just a few hours ago I was lifting, saw a water bottle by a piece of equipment and asked a guy next to it if it was his or if he knew who that belonged to.

He had seen me before on the chest fly lifting 250, 7-8 reps per set. He then proceeded to give me some "advice" about how lower weight high rep is sooooo much better.

He literally adjusted the weight down on the equipment for me as a "favor"

I played along, like whatevs. Then left and continued my usual routine.

Mind you this guy was literally half my size, quite a bit older, and wearing jeans and sandals at the gym.

Felt like he was dad splaining...

Anyway to your point TS you won't lose strength permanently. It's a great idea to mix things up.

 

[deadshot138]

Interesting question. Just a few hours ago I was lifting, saw a water bottle by a piece of equipment and asked a guy next to it if it was his or if he knew who that belonged to.

He had seen me before on the chest fly lifting 250, 7-8 reps per set. He then proceeded to give me some "advice" about how lower weight high rep is sooooo much better.

He literally adjusted the weight down on the equipment for me as a "favor"

I played along, like whatevs. Then left and continued my usual routine.

Mind you this guy was literally half my size, quite a bit older, and wearing jeans and sandals at the gym.

Felt like he was dad splaining...

Anyway to your point TS you won't lose strength permanently. It's a great idea to mix things up.

Using an isolation exercise in the strength rep range instead of maximizing hypertrophy with a juicy pump

 

[mixmastermo]

Using an isolation exercise in the strength rep range instead of maximizing hypertrophy with a juicy pump

Right. FWIW there's a lot of information and disinformation regarding proper exercise routines out there. After doing it for years I know what I need to do to get the results I want. People need to just focus on what works for them

I don't need a dude whose legs are skinnier than my arms "teaching" me.

 

[deadshot138]

Right. FWIW there's a lot of information and disinformation regarding proper exercise routines out there. After doing it for years I know what I need to do to get the results I want. People need to just focus on what works for them

I don't need a dude whose legs are skinnier than my arms "teaching" me.

Apparently heavy flye movements are great for increasing strength off the chest in the bench press.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Right. FWIW there's a lot of information and disinformation regarding proper exercise routines out there. After doing it for years I know what I need to do to get the results I want. People need to just focus on what works for them

I don't need a dude whose legs are skinnier than my arms "teaching" me.

Preach. One size does not fit all. How you train depends on your goals, any limitations such as injury, the time you have available for training and recovery etc.

It's also poor form to offer unsolicited advice at the gym. The only time I've done it is when the other person is risking serious injury. I don't want my workout paused while paramedics remove the corpse of the dumb ass who tried to max out on the bench with way too weight and no spotter.

 

[Trabaho]

 

[Trabaho]

Interesting question. Just a few hours ago I was lifting, saw a water bottle by a piece of equipment and asked a guy next to it if it was his or if he knew who that belonged to.

He had seen me before on the chest fly lifting 250, 7-8 reps per set. He then proceeded to give me some "advice" about how lower weight high rep is sooooo much better.

He literally adjusted the weight down on the equipment for me as a "favor"

I played along, like whatevs. Then left and continued my usual routine.

Mind you this guy was literally half my size, quite a bit older, and wearing jeans and sandals at the gym.

Felt like he was dad splaining...

Anyway to your point TS you won't lose strength permanently. It's a great idea to mix things up.

Dumbbell flys ? Why machines ?

 

[mixmastermo]

Preach. One size does not fit all. How you train depends on your goals, any limitations such as injury, the time you have available for training and recovery etc.

It's also poor form to offer unsolicited advice at the gym. The only time I've done it is when the other person is risking serious injury. I don't want my workout paused while paramedics remove the corpse of the dumb ass who tried to max out on the bench with way too weight and no spotter.

Right. I might help a n00b achieve proper form if I see them doing something that could hurt them, but other than that I mind my business

Dumbbell flys ? Why machines ?

See below

Apparently heavy flye movements are great for increasing strength off the chest in the bench press.

Like you, I took a long break from lifting, and when I came back I exclusively used machines. For the chest fly I still use the butterfly press, but at the rate I'm going I'll be maxing that out soon, so I may need to switch, probably by fall.

The equipment at my gym has adjustable range of motion on everything, so I adjust them to the point where my muscles really feel the pump. It's been working great- I've broken some personal records on some exercises that I used to do over 10 years ago when I didn't have a career, higher test levels and all the time in the world.

 

[Rigg9]

I think it might of been Blevins I heard talking about how he ran a hypertrophy block without focus on the main power lifts before one of his contest preps and had one of his best cycles he ever had and thought that block might had been the reason why

 

[maximus__]

In a previous thread, one of the responders mentioned that he usually gets weaker during training phases where strength is not the priority. I'm afraid it might happen to me.

There will be some weeks in the training phase that I plan on doing soon where there won't be the usual heavy stuff. Just weighted cardio by way of kettlebells.

So, what do you think?

Thanks.

There are some studies out there saying it takes 1-2 weeks to lose strength from no training.
There are also plenty of studies showing strength can be maintained whilst injured by training the opposite limb.

You will lose some strength for periods if you don't strength train regularly, but you get it back rapidly.
You can also get great results by hitting assistance work hard whilst maintaining your strength sets.

If you don't do something for a while you might get worse at it. Just do whatever you can and then come back to the strength work when it fits your life goals.