Crime Should we shoot down the UFOs in New Jersey?

[N13]

Skip to 8 minute 30 seconds and 18 minutes in for the drone info.



Let's see if the drones go away now since what was lost has been found.

Teh radioactive angle. FTW !?!?!?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

The most recent episode of news Nation is absolutely fantastic on this topic.


Obviously they've gone through every single possible cause of this situation there could be.

The one I had not thought of that they floated as a possibility that makes some sense is that it is a rogue element within the government and that we're witnessing a possible Coup D'etat where rogue elements are acting unilaterally.

This would explain why our own Air Force had flights shut down without their prior knowledge and why an international airport was shut down without prior knowledge.

Floated alongside this possibility are rogue non-government actors.

All of this in the context that there are orbs that do not appear to be made of any technology we actually are aware of and could be alien in nature, although we have no idea what they really are.

It is also considered that the drones are there to study/observe the uap's

 

[Deleted member 577981]

As a response to the official White House briefing on the topic that these are all lawful drones.

News Nation interviewed a licensed drone operator and the person who has tons of military experience and who is a pilot and here's what he said.

You can fly at night without a specific waiver if you have anti-collision lights yet many of these drones are filmed with no lights on at all.

You must stay below for 100 ft if you don't have a waiver. Many of these drones are seen flying above 400 ft.

You must fly within direct line of sight or it's against the law. You cannot be flying it from miles away. You must have direct visual sight of your drone. The amount of distance many of these are covering eliminates that possibility.

Any drone over 55 lb needs a specific waiver and it has to be registered with the FAA in order to fly it. You cannot fly these directly over people who are not involved unless you have a waiver in parachutes and all kinds of things.

Many of the big drones that are reported being seen are hundreds of thousands of dollars if not sometimes millions of dollars.

ADSN a transmitter or broadcast of GSP location, from and to parameters, and other parameters and they're required and none of these are registered in this way. You can pull up an app and buy a receiver in any area and it will tell you where every single drone in this parameters is in the sky.

This is all a legal requirement for the larger drones.

But all drones are required to broadcast when they're in public spaces.

This makes nearly every single drone flight in the sky illegal and makes the official statement from the White House completely dishonest and lying.

How do we know this? Because if they had waivers the official system would know about them and there would be no mystery whatsoever about them.

If these are black ops by the military, why are they shutting down their own airports and international airports costing thousands of hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially due to delays?

There are reports of these drones hovering in one place for up to 12 hours, but even the most advanced hydrogen drones that we know of can only hover up to 2 to 4 hours.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The Big, Glow-in-the-Dark Apple,

Radiation levels in New York spike amid Northeast 'mystery drone' wave

Radiation levels have spiked in New York City, fueling conspiracy theories that the drones terrorizing the Northeast are searching for a missing nuclear warhead.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 577981]

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[Wilmer Digreux]

Skip to 8 minute 30 seconds and 18 minutes in for the drone info.



Let's see if the drones go away now since what was lost has been found.

Teh radioactive angle. FTW !?!?!?

If they already found it then the activity should stop

 

[tabascojet]

The Big, Glow-in-the-Dark Apple,

Radiation levels in New York spike amid Northeast 'mystery drone' wave

Radiation levels have spiked in New York City, fueling conspiracy theories that the drones terrorizing the Northeast are searching for a missing nuclear warhead.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I got a notice from my water company about issues with the water supply yesterday...

 

[tabascojet]

Many people online speculate that the drones spotted in New Jersey might be the PteroDynamics Transwing X-P4.
This drone transitions between two configurations: a quadcopter mode (7 feet by 4 feet) for vertical takeoff and landing and a fixed-wing airplane mode (7 feet by 13 feet) for efficient flight.
PteroDynamics has contracts with the U.S. Navy, which tests drones at the Naval Air Station at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey.
The company has also carried out test flights from the flight deck of the USNS Burlington, which is currently stationed in New Jersey.
This capability might explain the drone sightings reported from the sea.
These sightings are likely tied to classified U.S. Navy drone testing, which explains the federal government’s silence on the matter.
If these drones are not the PteroDynamics X-P4, they are likely similar unmanned aerial systems being evaluated by the U.S. military.
That's the most logical explanation for why the federal government is allowing these operations to happen.
At this point, it appears to be as much an experiment in psychological operations as it is a test of drone technology.

 

[Rational Poster]

The most recent episode of news Nation is absolutely fantastic on this topic.


Obviously they've gone through every single possible cause of this situation there could be.

The one I had not thought of that they floated as a possibility that makes some sense is that it is a rogue element within the government and that we're witnessing a possible Coup D'etat where rogue elements are acting unilaterally.

This would explain why our own Air Force had flights shut down without their prior knowledge and why an international airport was shut down without prior knowledge.

Floated alongside this possibility are rogue non-government actors.

All of this in the context that there are orbs that do not appear to be made of any technology we actually are aware of and could be alien in nature, although we have no idea what they really are.

It is also considered that the drones are there to study/observe the uap's

 

[Deleted member 577981]

What are your top three news sources for this situation in New Jersey and why don't you post some links for what you think is good coverage?

I think Nws Nation is doing the very best coverage. They even sent a reporter down there who has spent a full week so far down there and is reporting from the ground and they've caught drones on camera that are very strange and certainly not privately owned. They've also spent a lot of time with local law enforcement and reported on their experiences with it and then they're analyzing the data in a really detailed way.

They also happen to have three correspondents who are regular contributors and authors who happen to live down there and they've interviewed them with their experiences. All three of whom have seen drones, one of whom saw an orb instead of a drone.

They have also analyzed statements from the federal government on this situation and contrasted it with data they have themselves gleaned and gathered and shown why the federal response is insufficient.

I'm wondering what sources you have that you think are better than that and maybe you could post some up so we could take a look at them.

In one of the posts you are not going to respond to I posted two or three segments from News Nation for you to be exposed to, which I think will help you with your understanding of this because I think they're doing the best coverage in the country right now.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I got a notice from my water company about issues with the water supply yesterday...

What did it say??

 

[Rational Poster]

What are your top three news sources for this situation in New Jersey and why don't you post some links for what you think is good coverage?

I think Nws Nation is doing the very best coverage. They even sent a reporter down there who has spent a full week so far down there and is reporting from the ground and they've caught drones on camera that are very strange and certainly not privately owned. They've also spent a lot of time with local law enforcement and reported on their experiences with it and then they're analyzing the data in a really detailed way.

They also happen to have three correspondents who are regular contributors and authors who happen to live down there and they've interviewed them with their experiences. All three of whom have seen drones, one of whom saw an orb instead of a drone.

They have also analyzed statements from the federal government on this situation and contrasted it with data they have themselves gleaned and gathered and shown why the federal response is insufficient.

I'm wondering what sources you have that you think are better than that and maybe you could post some up so we could take a look at them.

In one of the posts you are not going to respond to I posted two or three segments from News Nation for you to be exposed to, which I think will help you with your understanding of this because I think they're doing the best coverage in the country right now.

Wikipedia, the bible, and the codex astartes.

All much more reasonable sources than one promoting a secret coup. lmao

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Many people online speculate that the drones spotted in New Jersey might be the PteroDynamics Transwing X-P4.
This drone transitions between two configurations: a quadcopter mode (7 feet by 4 feet) for vertical takeoff and landing and a fixed-wing airplane mode (7 feet by 13 feet) for efficient flight.
PteroDynamics has contracts with the U.S. Navy, which tests drones at the Naval Air Station at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey.
The company has also carried out test flights from the flight deck of the USNS Burlington, which is currently stationed in New Jersey.
This capability might explain the drone sightings reported from the sea.
These sightings are likely tied to classified U.S. Navy drone testing, which explains the federal government’s silence on the matter.
If these drones are not the PteroDynamics X-P4, they are likely similar unmanned aerial systems being evaluated by the U.S. military.
That's the most logical explanation for why the federal government is allowing these operations to happen.
At this point, it appears to be as much an experiment in psychological operations as it is a test of drone technology.

I just listened to a really big segment about those drones and there seems to be a high likelihood that a lot of them are exactly what you're saying.


But there are still the orbs to contend with which don't fit that profile. And also, the time that some of these are reported as having hovered in the air also excludes those drones as a possibility because some of these drones are reportedly hovering for up to 12 hours at a time and the longest are most advanced drones that we're aware of now can hovers is about 4 hours.

But a psychological operation on the United States citizenry does seem to be high a likelihood, seeing as how the White House's story is not sufficient at all to explain the data.

But why would the military do a psyop on the American citizenry that includes orbs can be very difficult to explain through conventional technological means and do it for 3 weeks or more 4 weeks across many states? To me, that seems a little bit ominous frankly, even though definitely a possibility.

 

[tabascojet]

What did it say??

Standard generic language...not saying it's involved with this in anyway but the timing of it has those already on edge more concerned

https://alertsdetail.awapps.com/alert/68718

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Wikipedia, the bible, and the codex astartes.

All much more reasonable sources than one promoting a secret coup. lmao

Who's promoting a secret coup?? Are you confusing promoting with floating every possible theory about what could explain this phenomenon and giving them all consideration? Or are you lying and slandering intentionally?

Have you got a link for who's promoting a coup and how do you associate that with me?

And also you've ducked my question for what your sources are three times now. Are you afraid to list your sources afraid to open yourself up for criticism? Afraid to share your positions which can then be critiqued?
Are you a coward who just takes pot shots and then runs away? Because so far that's all you've done.


Why don't you post your three top sources and give some links so people can watch them and learn from them and possibly critique them?

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Standard generic language...not saying it's involved with this in anyway but the timing of it has those already on edge more concerned

https://alertsdetail.awapps.com/alert/68718

No doubt about it man. That would concern me a little bit too drones flying everywhere. Government lying about it and now my water tastes weird?

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that actually.....

 

[Rational Poster]

Who's promoting a secret coup?? Are you confusing promoting with floating every possible theory about what could explain this phenomenon and giving them all consideration? Or are you lying and slandering intentionally?

Have you got a link for who's promoting a coup and how do you associate that with me?

And also you've ducked my question for what your sources are three times now. Are you afraid to list your sources afraid to open yourself up for criticism? Afraid to share your positions which can then be critiqued?
Are you a coward who just takes pot shots and then runs away? Because so far that's all you've done.


Why don't you post your three top sources and give some links so people can watch them and learn from them and possibly critique them?

Possibility is a silly way to analyze an event without considering the plausibility.

Everything might be technically possible, but far less is plausible.

Spreading theories that are not even close to plausible as possible is deliberate promotion of propaganda.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Possibility is a silly way to analyze an event without considering the plausibility.

Everything might be technically possible, but far less is plausible.

Spreading theories that are not even close to plausible as possible is deliberate promotion of propaganda.

I disagree. I think that examining an unknown phenomenon from every possible angle is the only way to think clearly.

Examining the White House's statement based on their understanding of the situation reveals that they either are lying or have no idea what's happening. I suppose it's possible although unlikely that they have no idea what's actually happening and if that's the case then you have to consider.... Why don't they know??



Why don't you post your sources? What are your two favorite sources? If you can't post three on this topic, why don't you give me some links so I can examine where you're getting your information and then maybe I can help you see what they're not considering or are excluding things intentionally from consideration based on a priori assumptions.

 

[tabascojet]

I just listened to a really big segment about those drones and there seems to be a high likelihood that a lot of them are exactly what you're saying.


But there are still the orbs to contend with which don't fit that profile. And also, the time that some of these are reported as having hovered in the air also excludes those drones as a possibility because some of these drones are reportedly hovering for up to 12 hours at a time and the longest are most advanced drones that we're aware of now can hovers is about 4 hours.

But a psychological operation on the United States citizenry does seem to be high a likelihood, seeing as how the White House's story is not sufficient at all to explain the data.

But why would the military do a psyop on the American citizenry that includes orbs can be very difficult to explain through conventional technological means and do it for 3 weeks or more 4 weeks across many states? To me, that seems a little bit ominous frankly, even though definitely a possibility.

My first thoughts on all this when it first started to occur was a new technology test(China is reported to have nuclear drones which far exceed standard flying times of current known aircraft perhaps we have developed our own)
Or the govt was looking for something because of the repetitive nature and routes these mass numbers of aircraft were taking.
The orb video posted here that aired on ABC 7 ny is a head scratcher for sure. I can attest that the news caster and graphics used are current with today's standards and the jump cut to congressman Andy Kim at the end make it look like something that actually aired but I have no confirmation of that . They are however not reairing this video which seems unusual to me if I had obtained that footage. No one is reporting orbs on any newscasts I've witnessed personally.
I have witnessed the mass flying of drones twice since last Friday night. You want to gaslight me and tell me they were only airplanes that's on you but I know better. Airplanes don't line up for approach as close as these aircraft were and they were flying alot lower than one would expect for aircraft not engaged in landing or takeoff.

 

[Rational Poster]

I disagree. I think that examining an unknown phenomenon from every possible angle is the only way to think clearly.

Examining the White House's statement based on their understanding of the situation reveals that they either are lying or have no idea what's happening. I suppose it's possible although unlikely that they have no idea what's actually happening and if that's the case then you have to consider.... Why don't they know??



Why don't you post your sources? What are your two favorite sources? If you can't post three on this topic, why don't you give me some links so I can examine where you're getting your information and then maybe I can help you see what they're not considering or are excluding things intentionally from consideration based on a priori assumptions.

Well, you're wrong.