Should we reconsider weight legacies...

[The Chosen]

Old WWs would be LWs today, and you could make an argument a lot of old Pride HWs were really just LHWs. Considering GSP and Khabib as apart of a different weight class is a bit fallacious.

 

[Askren’s chin]

Yea Khabib is probably bigger than prime gsp which is crazy to think about

 

[Murder_KickHC]

Being Double Champ in two different weight classes is way more impressive than lets say 5-6 title defences.

 

[The Chosen]

Yea Khabib is probably bigger than prime gsp which is crazy to think about

That means Khabib could be MW champ

 

[Drugstore Cowboy]

Yea Khabib is probably bigger than prime gsp which is crazy to think about

Which proves even more what a legend and a GOAT GSP is when he ballooned up to MW and took Ping's soul choking him to death.

 

[Askren’s chin]

Being Double Champ in two different weight classes is way more impressive than lets say 5-6 title defences.

I’d say 9 defences and double champ is better than all

 

[Askren’s chin]

Which proves even more what a legend and a GOAT GSP is when he ballooned up to MW and took Ping's soul choking him to death.

SO TRUE!

 

[Jojomojo]

I know where you are coming from, but in the case of GSP 170 existed as a weight class. So its hard to not view him as one. Who knows how he or other oldschool fighters would have performed under a heavy weight cut.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

Being Double Champ in two different weight classes is way more impressive than lets say 5-6 title defences.

I strongly disagree. DC managed to win 2 belts but never managed more than 1 successful defense. Conor won 2 belts and never defended either.

 

[Katsushyro]

Old WWs would be LWs today, and you could make an argument a lot of old Pride HWs were really just LHWs. Considering GSP and Khabib as apart of a different weight class is a bit fallacious.

I agree with your first point, but GSP and Khabib are objectively part of different weight classes, as they did make weight and compete in different weight classes.

Also, I don't get the use of the term "fallacious" on that context.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Unless you’re beating a can like Alvarez or a cyclops In Bisping
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Alvarez wasn't a can lol

He had the NC with Poirer and then beat Gaethje right after he lost to Conor

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

As you can tell from the comments so far, it's hard to quantify.

But one thing we can agree on is, Sak was an MMA legend that would have excelled in a proper weight class.

 

[G10]

I don't think so. Fighters are always limited by their era. Twenty years from now, training science and nutrition might be at a level where a guy like Ngannou can cut to 170lbs. It's about what that fighter did during his own era, not what is relative to today.

 

[G10]

I strongly disagree. DC managed to win 2 belts but never managed more than 1 successful defense. Conor won 2 belts and never defended either.

Agreed. The thing about the "double champ" craze that nobody talks about is that almost all of the work is put into fighting for the first championship. Guys like Oliveira, Bisping, and RDA had to fight dozens of times to get their first title shot. So, when a guy like McGregor is able to get a title shot after five fights, and then gets another title shot up a weight-class, he's putting in LESS work than if he would've defended his first title two or more times. Plus, as literally every champion has ever said, it's a lot harder to defend the belt than it is to win it.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

LW is overrated, there’s a thread stating such on Sherdog,...

Bellator is a renowned producer of Champ/Contender level cans, Alvarez=Can, Chandler=Can, AssGrin=Can, Lombard=Can, Giblert, Soto, Brooks, ect...Cans

CONCLUSION
The combined UFC record for Bellator champions is 21 wins with 27 losses for a 43.7% win rate.

Can is way too strong of a word, he probably wasn't the best LW in the world when he held the belt, but he was up there, again he beat Gaethje

Also Chandler almost beat Oliveira, he isn't a can lol

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Yea Khabib is probably bigger than prime gsp which is crazy to think about

No, he isn't. Prime GSP was like 190 with much less body fat. Khabib is like 175-180.

 

[ferrisjso]

Being Double Champ in two different weight classes is way more impressive than lets say 5-6 title defences.

No no it is not.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Unless you’re beating a can like Alvarez or a cyclops In Bisping
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Alvarez has one of the best LW resumes of all time. He has more top 10 wins at LW than anyone other than Gomi.

 

[laleggenda27]

GSP was much leaner at 170 than Khabib ever was at 155. Hell, GSP weighed in at 185 with a 6-pack. No, they aren't the same size. GSP is clearly the larger man.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

Can is way too strong of a word, he probably wasn't the best LW in the world when he held the belt, but he was up there, again he beat Gaethje

Also Chandler almost beat Oliveira, he isn't a can lol

Personally, I’d have gone with Doppo Orochi as my theme on an MMA forum