Economy Should this guy be able to get SNAP?

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SNAP is basically EBT. Used to be called food stamps

Trump is making changes to who can be allowed to get it. This guy is pissed that he will no longer be allowed to get SNAP in the future.

 
jk7707 said:
Probably not. Do you have an actual argument about SNAP that goes beyond this gentleman?
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The fact that this "gentleman" is getting it is an indictment in itself that the system is broken and likely populated in a significant measure by scammers and opportunists.
 
Even if you don't think this individual deserves SNAP, the issue is broader: the same rules that disqualify him disqualify a lot of people you don't want disqualified (people who are homeless, for example).

Rules governing welfare are a crude hammer, and there's no realistic scenario where you remove people like him and don't also remove very vulnerable populations.

Not to mention $1,500 isn't exactly much in the grand scheme of government spending or kickbacks to wealthier Americans that we don't require drug tests or work requirements for.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
The fact that this "gentleman" is getting it is an indictment in itself that the system is broken and likely populated in a significant measure by scammers and opportunists.
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This is the same logic as the incels who say that the majority of women who claim rape or sexual assault are lying.

Everyone I know who is on food stamps literally needs it to live and feed their kids, if you think it's mainly being abused by everyone then that's pretty sad.
 
italiamusica said:
Everyone I know who is on food stamps literally needs it to live and feed their kids, if you think it's mainly being abused by everyone then that's pretty sad.
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I mean, maybe check your reading comprehension before jumping in on something like a schizo?
what i wrote is "in significant measure". what you understood from it is "mainly". forum posting is hard, maybe it's not for you?
 
F1980 said:
SNAP is basically EBT. Used to be called food stamps

Trump is making changes to who can be allowed to get it. This guy is pissed that he will no longer be allowed to get SNAP in the future.

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classic conservative tactic is to highlight a few poor, or supposedly lazy—individuals who misuse social welfare programs, and then use those isolated cases to claim that the entire system is broken. But it’s impossible to create a welfare system that catches every single person who tries to exploit it. Conservatives often respond to this by calling for cuts to these programs. Yet a far more effective solution would be to invest in them, hire more investigators, improve oversight, and strengthen the system so misuse is minimized without harming the people who genuinely need support.


What I’ve always found most interesting, though, is the inconsistency in conservative outrage. They become furious when poor people exploit welfare benefits, but they rarely show the same anger toward wealthy individuals who exploit loopholes or openly evade taxes, actions that cost society far more than any so-called “welfare queens. This selective indignation reveals that the issue isn’t really about fairness or financial responsibility, it’s about who is considered an acceptable target.
 
jimmas99 said:
What I’ve always found most interesting, though, is the inconsistency in conservative outrage. They become furious when poor people exploit welfare benefits, but they rarely show the same anger toward wealthy individuals who exploit loopholes or openly evade taxes, actions that cost society far more than any so-called “welfare queens. This selective indignation reveals that the issue isn’t really about fairness or financial responsibility, it’s about who is considered an acceptable target.
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"In America it's ok to cheat, as long as you cheat your way to the top.."


 
italiamusica said:
This is the same logic as the incels who say that the majority of women who claim rape or sexual assault are lying.

Everyone I know who is on food stamps literally needs it to live and feed their kids, if you think it's mainly being abused by everyone then that's pretty sad.
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oh well if it’s everyone you know. that’s all we need. i thought you were going to use anecdotal evidence there for a minute
 
Seano said:
If you're able bodied, you should have to work. I don't get why this is controversial.
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The vast majority of people on SNAP do work, often multiple jobs. Two friends of mine work at Walmart and still rely on SNAP because companies like that do not pay livable wages. If employers paid enough for people to live without food assistance, SNAP would not even be necessary.

I am also tired of the right acting like SNAP recipients are lazy. That is just not true. SNAP is a work-support program, not a handout. Most recipients are children, elderly, or disabled. In fact, in 2021, 86% of households with working-age adults on SNAP had earnings. Many work full-time at Walmart, fast food, or similar jobs, and still cannot make ends meet. Demonizing these people is dishonest and exhausting. SNAP exists so working families do not go hungry, not to reward laziness.
 
Satanical Eve said:
The vast majority of people on SNAP do work, often multiple jobs. Two friends of mine work at Walmart and still rely on SNAP because companies like that do not pay livable wages. If employers paid enough for people to live without food assistance, SNAP would not even be necessary.

I am also tired of the right acting like SNAP recipients are lazy. That is just not true. SNAP is a work-support program, not a handout. Most recipients are children, elderly, or disabled. In fact, in 2021, 86% of households with working-age adults on SNAP had earnings. Many work full-time at Walmart, fast food, or similar jobs, and still cannot make ends meet. Demonizing these people is dishonest and exhausting. SNAP exists so working families do not go hungry, not to reward laziness.
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I'm OK with a person who is trying getting some help. The guy in the OP doesn't work. He's not trying.
 
Seano said:
I'm OK with a person who is trying getting some help. The guy in the OP doesn't work. He's not trying.
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He's an ex-con. I agree with you btw. Person in the video pretty much proves the President's point.
 
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