Should they just allow fence grabs?

[DS66]

I've thought that thought top... like hockey rink "glass" that can flex but would eliminate the fence grab.

Probably increase concussions though.

Every now and then that hockey glass shatters though.... Can you imagine that in the Octagon.

 

[FreedomCricket]

Every now and then that hockey glass shatters though.... Can you imagine that in the Octagon.

Wonder if it still happens? I haven't seen glass shatter since like early 2000s.

I watch hockey almost every night too.

 

[bigmacbub]

If you get caught with a fence grab it should be automatic reposition on your back with opponent in full guard.

 

[theleerygoose]

Not unless you want to see broken fingers and torn ligaments.

 

[Poatan Power]

Some sort of thick, transparent 'glass' would make more sense. But no, grabbing the fence would eliminate takedowns against the cage and promote grabbing it and pinning your opponent against it.

 

[Pizza Werewolf]

I wish there was an alternative...like a really tight mesh or something

Well they could mitten up dem gloves but then eyepokes would become illegal

 

[BodybagJohnny**]

nah, just give the guy attempting a takedown the top position--maybe side control--whenever soneone grabs the fence to stop the takedown.

Do it every single time and take a point after a warning or two.

 

[AmonTobin]

Every now and then that hockey glass shatters though.... Can you imagine that in the Octagon.

Joe Rogan Icegate all over again, but with plexglass nuggets.

 

[ChimRichalds]

It's a tough one. I think the vast majority of fence grabs are just a visceral instinct rather than an intentional way to cheat. If you are falling down (or being taken down in the case of MMA) it's your natural instinct to reach and grab something to prevent yourself from going down.

I think human instinct overrides sporting rules in this case.

This 100%. I don't know that anyone deliberately grabs the cage to stop a TD. I mean, I'm sure a few have, but in most cases it's probably just instinct.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I wish there was an alternative...like a really tight mesh or something

I actual;ly think a loose mesh held up by ring ropes(as tall as the current cage) might be the best way to go.

So basically you have a barrier but its not a hard barrier you can push someone against nore is it a barrier you can benefit from grabing as much and if you do its much more obvious.

Generally I tend to think the techniques associated with the cage in MMA are low skill ones, both in grappling and striking using it to limit fighters movement when their trapped against it, the ability to lean back into a flaxable barrier like ropes would take that away.

 

[BigGing]

I actual;ly think a loose mesh held up by ring ropes(not as tall as the current cage) might be the best way to go.

So basically you have a barrier but its not a hard barrier you can push someone against nore is it a barrier you can benefit from grabing as much and if you do its much more obvious.

Generally I tend to think the techniques associated with the cage in MMA are low skill ones, both in grappling and striking using it to limit fighters movement when their trapped against it, the ability to lean back into a flaxable barrier like ropes would take that away.

Yeah I understand why just a ring can be a problem since people fly out of it, and obviously you can't do something like plexiglass since there'd be blood smearing everywhere

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Yeah I understand why just a ring can be a problem since people fly out of it, and obviously you can't do something like plexiglass since there'd be blood smearing everywhere

Those IVC shows some to mind were they have mesh under the bottom rope, I think something like that but have the mesh between all the ropes and say 4 ropes going up to cage height might be the best middle ground.

I think that would actually be legal for an org to use in the US given that rings are legal.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

i been saying for years they should electrify the outer part of the fence so when they stick their fingers in they get a mild zap.

 

[welcometohavoc]

Its a weird rule if u think about it. Wrestlers can use the fence to push guys up against and trap them. But the other guy can’t use it to hold himself up? That seems to be a rule that favors grapplers.

If there was no fence, lots of guys wouldn’t be able to get people down.

it also helps with action too, takedowns have to be clean and technique driven, over use of the fence.

If you legalize fence grabs, you may as well ban wrestling. Being able to grab the fence will essentially make takedowns along the fence impossible

 

[welcometohavoc]

i been saying for years they should electrify the outer part of the fence so when they stick their fingers in they get a mild zap.

This is one of those ideas that is practically ok, but realistically impossible. The optics just wouldn't work. It would just be more ammo for the anti-MMA crowd to use to claim MMA is barbaric.

 

[It Just Is]

Just keep doing what Herb did last night. It was an egregious foul in that it stopped a TD.

Take a point. It’ll stop soon enough.

I think the ref should put them back in the same position and a warning should be issued. If the infraction happens again, issue a point deduction.

 

[Oscar Madison]

This is one of those ideas that is practically ok, but realistically impossible. The optics just wouldn't work. It would just be more ammo for the anti-MMA crowd to use to claim MMA is barbaric.

I'd go further (the other way) -- give the Ref a cattle prod for repeat offender (butt).

However, I don't know how much of that zap would reach the other fighter... <45>

 

[Ronin13]

Change the glove instead.

 

[xhaydenx]

Use plexiglass walls

I used to think this would be a cool idea until I realized any sort of screen would be smeared with blood and sweat and whatnot within a fight or two and ruin the whole thing lol.

 

[BigOlJeet]

Conor kept grabbing the fence when Khabib was ragdolling him, you seen how it all turned out.