Should the lighter fighters be weighed more heavily all time?

Shamrock, Tito, Chuck, Jones

Heavyweight had Fedor but not in the UFC.

Most of those fighters had around 4 defenses which is pretty good but there seems to be more of those in the lower divisions.

Why didn’t defend his titles more? I see gaps where he won the title but then doesn’t defend it in the subsequent fight… is it because of a tournament or something?
 
Whenever a post says "hear me out" it's already doomed.

What's your genius idea TS, to say a title defence at FW is worth two defences at HW?

Isn't your point just contradictory anyway? The fact that heavier weight classes have more ko power makes it's harder to dominate those divisions for a long time therefore; the heavier weights should be favoured more.....
 
Whenever a post says "hear me out" it's already doomed.

What's your genius idea TS, to say a title defence at FW is worth two defences at HW?

Isn't your point just contradictory anyway? The fact that heavier weight classes have more ko power makes it's harder to dominate those divisions for a long time therefore; the heavier weights should be favoured more.....

Comes into the thread insulting and throws wild accusations. When did I say FW is worth two defenses? Stop putting words into my mouth.

It’s not contradictory, even though the facts may seem like it. We’re trying to find out why the lower weight classes or “average weight classes” have more title defenses while having higher competition while the bigger ones have less defenses but lower competition.
 
Comes into the thread insulting and throws wild accusations. When did I say FW is worth two defenses? Stop putting words into my mouth.

It’s not contradictory, even though the facts may seem like it. We’re trying to find out why the lower weight classes or “average weight classes” have more title defenses while having higher competition while the bigger ones have less defenses but lower competition.

So why didn't you say that instead of "they should be weighted differently", how exactly do you think they should be weighted? I gave an example.....(more than you did).
Who said they have higher competition? It's easier to get ko'd by a heavier dude, maybe that's why there's less defences at higher weights bruh.
 
So why didn't you say that instead of "they should be weighted differently", how exactly do you think they should be weighted? I gave an example.....(more than you did).
Who said they have higher competition? It's easier to get ko'd by a heavier dude, maybe that's why there's less defences at higher weights bruh.

Being heavy and having heavy hands is one part of the equation… but if there was less competition there should be longer reigns by the top guys.
 
Yes, pre-reebok, the lighter weight classes should be weighted 1.373X more when considering all time greats. Post-reebok, they should receive 1.448X more weighting.
 
Being heavy and having heavy hands is one part of the equation… but if there was less competition there should be longer reigns by the top guys.
If there was less competition at LHW then the title reigns should be longer?
 
If there was less competition at LHW then the title reigns should be longer?

Technically, yes. When competition increases (like it has in the NBA hence why a new team wins the title every year) it becomes much harder for one entity to exert control over the thing being sought after.
 
Hear me out:

Generally the higher weight classes have had less talent than the lower weight classes (LHW and HW). This could be for a number of reasons.. two of which: more pay in other sports for bigger better players, more rare to find bigger people than smaller ones etc. Especially now that Reebok has taken over and the top end of fighters are getting paid more than ever, it could be a less convincing for big athletes to commit to MMA.

The lighter weight classes generally seem to be a shark tank historically. There are more smaller people than bigger people and smaller people especially in America have a harder time competing in American sports which tend to require bigger bodies.

Even though the lighter weight classes hold the most records for title defenses in a row (which in theory would mean there is lower competition since the belt is changing around less offen), it's less a consequence of low competition and more about the fact that it is harder to win against other small fighters with one punch and due to the sheer volume of smaller fighters, there is a higher chance that one superior fighter would appear to dominate the rest. (At least this is my theory)

So my question to you is, shouldn't we weigh the smaller fighters in higher regard when it comes to P4P and GOAT talks? Yes, the bigger fighters would most likely beat the smaller champs in a fight but the smaller fighters have to be more excellent to remain in the top of the rankings.

On the other hand, it is way harder to hold onto the title at the bigger divisions since anyone can turn your lights off in one punch so longer title defenses at the higher weight classes are impressive.

Should the lighter fighters be weighed more heavily all time or do the bigger fighters have their own set of challenges which allows the smaller fighters to seem more impressive? What do you think?

Was always a big fan of yours Tito Ortiz!!! So stoked to see you discussing fighting with us here on the forums. Hope life has been great for ya

My thoughts: Bigger and better athletes of fighters will compete in sports of smaller fighters who weigh more but compete less
 
Yes, absolutely, when you can’t just knock your opponents out with a big punch that’s where the real skill shines. The average bantamweights grappling skill is light years better than even a middleweights, and certainly light heavyweight and heavyweight, not just due to speed but actual technical ability

Plus smaller athletes like average or below average height men don’t have any more well established better paying sports to go into and make money. It’s combat sports or soccer if you’re very skilled

Imagine a heavyweight with Islam’s athleticism and skill
 
Technically, yes. When competition increases (like it has in the NBA hence why a new team wins the title every year) it becomes much harder for one entity to exert control over the thing being sought after.
English isn't your first language is it?
 
How about not bother with wack lists in the first place?

Who cares bout ya wack ass list.

Your list probably got Chris Tuscherer on it.
 
How about not bother with wack lists in the first place?

Who cares bout ya wack ass list.

Your list probably got Chris Tuscherer on it.

Why bother with your wack posts? Ah I see you are trying to get to 150K posts.

Go on
 
Technically, yes. When competition increases (like it has in the NBA hence why a new team wins the title every year) it becomes much harder for one entity to exert control over the thing being sought after.
I said said "if there was less competition at LHW would the title reigns be longer" and then you said "yes, when competition increases it's harder to compete"

Isn't this whole thread about how the higher weight classes are less stacked than the lower weight classes?
 
I said said "if there was less competition at LHW would the title reigns be longer" and then you said "yes, when competition increases it's harder to compete"

Isn't this whole thread about how the higher weight classes are less stacked than the lower weight classes?

Yes bro there is a contradiction in the thread that I’m trying to figure out. Please read the entire thread before posting.
 
Yes bro there is a contradiction in the thread that I’m trying to figure out. Please read the entire thread before posting.

I can't see any section saying that "higher weight classes have more competition than lower weight classes", the first sentence says otherwise.
 
Why bother with your wack posts? Ah I see you are trying to get to 150K posts.

Go on
Posters travel far and wide with long layovers in between, to read my posts
 
So, smaller guys should get more credit for beating people their size, than bigger guys should for the same.

I already kinda had this suspicion from an earlier thread, but this confirms TS is an obvious manlet.
 
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