Should mail service be free?

[ShotgunSamurai]

The republican party sees the benefit in privatizing the post office with Postmaster General Louis Dejoy and that's the way they are moving.

How would you feel paying a monthly subscription for mail and packages?

President Donald Trump’s administration has called for privatizing the United States Postal Service, saying that the nation’s mail service has been crippled by a sharp decline in the volume of letters and cannot sustain its huge costs.

 

[Contempt]

At what point did they mention a subscription service?

Why do you think the cost model wouldn't be exactly the same as it is now? Minus all the usual government bloat and BS in running the service?

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Nope. Should be thousands a month. I love walking around the block collecting my mail from every house but mine...

 

[Sweater of AV]

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

At what point did they mention a subscription service?

Why do you think the cost model wouldn't be exactly the same as it is now? Minus all the usual government bloat and BS in running the service?

That's one concept I heard if the post office privatizes and Amazon, Fed Ex, UPS, DHL can all deliver mail and letters.

The price will raise significantly with more competition in the market with the goal to turn into a business and not a service.

 

[SakurabasEar]

I would pay to not have so much garbage mail. Would that change with a subscription

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

Nope. Should be thousands a month. I love walking around the block collecting my mail from every house but mine...

It'll only get worse when you don't know what company has your letter.

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

I would pay to not have so much garbage mail. Would that change with a subscription

https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Refu...pts every piece,standards offer mail refusal%

How do I remove my name from mailing lists?

Anyone who wants to reduce the amount of prospect marketing mail they receive may register for the mail suppression service called DMAchoice provided by the Association of National Advertisers (ANA), which is independent of the United States Postal Service. To “Remove” your name from common mailing lists, you may register, along with a nominal processing fee:

• Online registration: $2 fee for online processing
• Mail-in registration: $3 fee, submit check or money order payable to ANA no cash, certified or registered mail:
  DMAchoice
  Consumer Preferences
  P.O. Box 900
  Cos Cob, CT 06807

This service will not eliminate all promotional mail. It does not apply to promotional mail from companies or organizations that consumers have an existing business relationship. It also does not apply to local retailers, restaurants, and political organizations. You should expect to see a major reduction in the overall volume of prospect promotional offers received. Please note that ANA is not the source of consumer names for marketing purposes. This opt-in mail suppression service is a tool to assist consumers in managing their marketing offers.

The ANA has additional information for consumers about compliance tools and best practices, you can also file a complaint, or email [email protected].

In addition, the three major credit-reporting services (Equifax, Experian & TransUnion) also offer a name removal option for prescreened offers at: 1-888-5-OPT-OUT (1-888-567-8688) or visit www.optoutprescreen.com.

 

[SakurabasEar]

https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Refuse-unwanted-mail-and-remove-name-from-mailing-lists#:~:text=Not everyone accepts every piece,standards offer mail refusal%

How do I remove my name from mailing lists?

Anyone who wants to reduce the amount of prospect marketing mail they receive may register for the mail suppression service called DMAchoice provided by the Association of National Advertisers (ANA), which is independent of the United States Postal Service. To “Remove” your name from common mailing lists, you may register, along with a nominal processing fee:

• Online registration: $2 fee for online processing
• Mail-in registration: $3 fee, submit check or money order payable to ANA no cash, certified or registered mail:
  DMAchoice
  Consumer Preferences
  P.O. Box 900
  Cos Cob, CT 06807

This service will not eliminate all promotional mail. It does not apply to promotional mail from companies or organizations that consumers have an existing business relationship. It also does not apply to local retailers, restaurants, and political organizations. You should expect to see a major reduction in the overall volume of prospect promotional offers received. Please note that ANA is not the source of consumer names for marketing purposes. This opt-in mail suppression service is a tool to assist consumers in managing their marketing offers.

The ANA has additional information for consumers about compliance tools and best practices, you can also file a complaint, or email [email protected].

In addition, the three major credit-reporting services (Equifax, Experian & TransUnion) also offer a name removal option for prescreened offers at: 1-888-5-OPT-OUT (1-888-567-8688) or visit www.optoutprescreen.com.

We did that like 8 years ago, still get garbage mail though

 

[nonoob]

Should it be free ? No !​

Losing your cool over work conditions and situations, then violently retaliating against bosses and/or co-workers, was known to all as Going Postal.

Gubmint takeover would, IMHO, make it LESS Efficient, more stressful, and re-start the animosity from the hopelessness that occurred working there in the 1980's.

 

[ralphc1]

They should charge more for the advertising mail not less. I don't mail anything anymore. Most of the necessary mail I receive involves government notifications. All of my billing is online. Amazon used to send some things by mail but they opened a facility near me 2 years ago and they seem to deliver almost everything themselves now.

 

[Contempt]

That's one concept I heard if the post office privatizes and Amazon, Fed Ex, UPS, DHL can all deliver mail and letters.

The price will raise significantly with more competition in the market with the goal to turn into a business and not a service.

"The price will raise significantly with more competition in the market..."

MORE competition leads to higher prices? So, tell me you failed basic economics without telling me you failed basic economics

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

"The price will raise significantly with more competition in the market..."

MORE competition leads to higher prices? So, tell me you failed basic economics without telling me you failed basic economics

The post office currently delivers more of UPS's packages then UPS because UPS would lose money on those deliveries. They deliver a lot of Amazon packages as well that aren't profitable.

If USPS starts to run it like a business they may not continue to do that. The post office is the only one with the infrastructure to deliver around the US right now. So if Amazon and other competitors won't to compete they'd have to buy a bunch of real estate. I wouldn't bet on prices staying the same or dropping, my money would be a increase.

 

[Contempt]

The post office currently delivers more of UPS's packages then UPS because UPS would lose money on those deliveries. They deliver a lot of Amazon packages as well that aren't profitable.

If USPS starts to run it like a business they may not continue to do that. The post office is the only one with the infrastructure to deliver around the US right now. So if Amazon and other competitors won't to compete they'd have to buy a bunch of real estate. I wouldn't bet on prices staying the same or dropping, my money would be a increase.

You get that if this was no longer the government run mess that it is currently, it wouldn't just cease to exist right? It would be sold off to another company including all its processing facilities as the government would no longer have any use for it.

If certain deliveries are not financially viable, the cost of THOSE specific deliveries may increase but increased competition does not somehow equal higher prices , it's the opposite as companies compete for market share.

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

You get that if this was no longer the government run mess that it is currently, it wouldn't just cease to exist right? It would be sold off to another company including all its processing facilities as the government would no longer have any use for it.

If certain deliveries are not financially viable, the cost of THOSE specific deliveries may increase but increased competition does not somehow equal higher prices , it's the opposite as companies compete for market share.

Right but who would want it? The post office run as a service not a business for the most part at least. Why would a company buy something that isn't profitable in hopes they could increase prices in the middle of nowhere where they can't afford it anyway.

It's not always as black and white as more competition equals lower prices automatically but I get your point.

 

[Contempt]

Right but who would want it? The post office run as a service not a business for the most part at least. Why would a company buy something that isn't profitable in hopes they could increase prices in the middle of nowhere where they can't afford it anyway.

It's not always as black and white as more competition equals lower prices automatically but I get your point.

The point is that generally government run enterprises are full of ridiculous, bureaucratic bloat and inefficiencies. I have been consulting within various government departments in multiple countries for 23 years now so trust me, it's true.

Remove all the bloat and bullshit, it will probably become a profitable endeavor.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

The republican party sees the benefit in privatizing the post office with Postmaster General Louis Dejoy and that's the way they are moving.

I hate to break it to you, but the only reason they want to privatize it is to let their cronies reap all the profits. The infrastructure is already in place. They just want to be able to buy it cheap, hike the prices, and make a killing.

There is no reason to privatize it other than that. The USPS has worked just fine for over two hundred years.

The postal service is what you would call a public good, like roads, schools, water, etc. The purpose of it is not to make as much a profit as possible. The purpose is to make it available to as many people as possible. And they have accomplished that. The answer to everything is not to privatize everything. That’s some 15 year old libertarian bullshit. In other words, once you live in the real world and not some made up Ayne Rand universe, you understand public goods are needed, and business can’t solve all our problems.

 

[ShotgunSamurai]

The point is that generally government run enterprises are full of ridiculous, bureaucratic bloat and inefficiencies. I have been consulting within various government departments in multiple countries for 23 years now so trust me, it's true.

Remove all the bloat and bullshit, it will probably become a profitable endeavor.

Do you think privatizing is what they should do?

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

We know how much privatized health care reduces the price of medicine I’m sure it would do wonders for the mail service. I hope people in rural places don’t mind paying out the ass to get the same crap as everyone else.

 

[Contempt]

Do you think privatizing is what they should do?

I don't have all the information required to make up an informed opinion on the matter. Given what I have seen of the ridiculous waste and fuckery in government departments over the years though... probably.