Hot Take Should LHW and HW just be combined?

[Söze Aldo]

Most lhws are legitimately HW-sized guys who just cut water weight. The number of fighters who are over 200 lbs in cage shape is now so limited that it barely makes sense to maintain separate LHW and HW divisions.

Imagine if guys like Pereira and Jiri were fighting at heavyweight.

If anything, the sport would make more sense with a buffer class between 185 and 205, and then a single heavyweight division for anyone above 200 lbs.

 

[Trabaho]

No.

Jiri considered MW.

Forcing someone up is not the way.

UFC invests in HW or it stays stale with B level athletes outside the rankings.

LHW aren't HWs. Some can move up. Others can't. They all prefer not to or they already would done it.

Basically this makes HW above 185. Pretty stupid. So HW is bad and therefore you kill 205.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

interesting take but will never happen, even if the talent is so low enough to warrant that.

LHW and HW talent pool has dwindled in the modern era. perhaps combining, making limit at 225, will not only weed out the uber more disgusting than mine beer gut fatties, but can make a stronger league/product.

Poatan already contemplating moving up, Kamzhat saying he could do HW, cutting it off at 225 could work.

there's no reason why you need to be 265, and 75 of those pounds are in your massive, type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol med taking, with skinny chicken legs, fat motherfucking gut alone.

there's no more talent at HW, they could all cut, i'm for it.

would never happen though.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

No.

Keep the divisions and titles intact but I am down for some inter-division mingling and some open weight fights.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

No.

Jiri considered MW.

Forcing someone up is not the way.

UFC invests in HW or it stays stale with B level athletes outside the rankings.

LHW aren't HWs. Some can move up. Others can't. They all prefer not to or they already would done it.

Basically this makes HW above 185. Pretty stupid. So HW is bad and therefore you kill 205.

Yes.

Jiri cuts to LHW.

Forcing someone up can be the way.

UFC hasn't invested in HW division at all, it is staler than a D- product, rankings mean nothing.

LHWs all cut to get to 205, therefore they are HWs. They cut because they perceive an advantage, while getting shadow realmed by Poatan.

Basically, this makes for a better product, more competitive division, amongst weak shallow talent discrepancies.

Good. Kill 205, Kill 265 weight limit, it is now the 225 league.

 

[prime_lobov]

No but they should add a new division somewhere around 215-225. Then remove the limit on HW and call it SHW. Also remove all drug testing for SHW to allow huge steroid abusers to fight.

 

[jeff7b9]

Or… crazy idea here…

UFC could actually give a fuck about Hw (and LHW) and spend some of that Paramount money on recruiting the best fighters they can find from all over the world.

But they would rather have bums on 10/10k contender series contracts than pay champions and vets from regional orgs.

 

[VinceArch]

I don't think the divisions should be combined but get rid of the 265 weight limit and just look at the regionals and sign HW's looking to get into the UFC. Between the USA, Brazil and Europe it shouldn't be too hard to find some new faces at HW one would think.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Get rid of all weight classes and have everyone fight openweight

 

[Söze Aldo]

No.

Jiri considered MW.

Forcing someone up is not the way.

UFC invests in HW or it stays stale with B level athletes outside the rankings.

LHW aren't HWs. Some can move up. Others can't. They all prefer not to or they already would done it.

Basically this makes HW above 185. Pretty stupid. So HW is bad and therefore you kill 205.

He’s not a MW. This is how extreme MMA weight cutting has warped people’s perception.

He’s a 6'4" man with a near 80" reach who walks around lean at over 200 lbs. He’s the definition of a traditional combat sport heavyweight.

One reason the current HW division is so dog shit is that it’s mostly filled with the lardos who can’t even cut to 205.

 

[gunlok]

add cruiserweight division to the ufc instead

 

[Marko Polo]

I like the idea of a more stacked division but forcing anyone over 185 to fight guys up to 265 is a bit unfair. Someone like Olenyik who is a good fighter in his own right would thrive shutting down smaller fighters

 

[fendertach]

Just let them juice bro

 

[HNIC215]

They should do Super Heavyweight so Derrick Lewis and the other obese fatties with no cardio can join and give us boring “exciting” fights.

 

[swarrrm]

Start cutting fat slobs after embarrassing performances, zero tolerance. These are supposed to be professional athletes and they're shit at their job. If it kills the division so be it.

 

[Söze Aldo]

I like the idea of a more stacked division but forcing anyone over 185 to fight guys up to 265 is a bit unfair. Someone like Olenyik who is a good fighter in his own right would thrive shutting down smaller fighters

When HW boxers started becoming too big boxing created a cruiserweight class.

A 195 lbs class would make sense for that here.

 

[Trabaho]

Yes.

Jiri cuts to LHW.

Forcing someone up can be the way.

UFC hasn't invested in HW division at all, it is staler than a D- product, rankings mean nothing.

LHWs all cut to get to 205, therefore they are HWs. They cut because they perceive an advantage, while getting shadow realmed by Poatan.

Basically, this makes for a better product, more competitive division, amongst weak shallow talent discrepancies.

Good. Kill 205, Kill 265 weight limit, it is now the 225 league.

Even worse. Some 260 guys can't make 225. Your idea will never happen. HW to be from 185. People also really underestimate the size and quality of the top 6-7 HWs. A lot of B level but the ranked guys are strong. The top ranked guys are unproportionaly stronger.

Noone is gonna do this. But hey you can make a fun discussion.

I'd rather they budget a couple milions to make HW great again.

 

[Fedorgasm]

LHWs are just HWs with discipline.

That being said, I kinda like them separate. HW sucks right now but that hasn't always been the case. I'm sure it will be good again someday.

 

[Koala]

Combine HW, LHW, WBW, WFW, and WSW, and call IDCW

 

[Trabaho]

Start cutting fat slobs after embarrassing performances, zero tolerance. These are supposed to be professional athletes and they're shit at their job. If it kills the division so be it.

Yeah but big A level athletic guys cost more. There aren't many aviable who wanna do MMA. The couple globaly that exist can be paid. If they wanna invest.