Should Fedor have quit at 32 years old

[Calipwnia]

The twilight is part of the entire body of work.

So the answer is yes. You should quit at 32 like GSP did and have a close fight.

 

[Sakuraba7]

Should have quit after Werdum IMO.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

And in the decade since Pride folded and Fedor is still fighting but not in the UFC?

UFC wanted Fedor to sign a multi fight exclusive contract.

Fedor just wanted one fight with Randy or Brock. He didn't want to sign his rights away.

UFC was too scared Fedor would destroy them and walk away with the title. That would have been embarrassing for UFC.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Show the test results or don’t bring it up if you can’t provide proof.

Everyone knows Hendo was on TRT lol

Why provide proof of common knowledge?

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Show the test results or don’t bring it up if you can’t provide proof.

Everyone knows Hendo was on LEGAL TRT from 2007 to 2013. I have already told you this and you still play dumb

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

You are a donk and known troll. All that can be said with your hilarious innacurate uneducated post.

Couldn't refute a thing I said.


You duck questions like Jones ducks HW.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

How old was Hendo there, dummy?

Hendo's career was revived by TRT around that time. Fedor was past his best days. That was the smallest and flabbiest Fedor we have ever seen. He was obviously not training like he did 10 years prior. Still doesn't take away from what he accomplished 2000 to 2010.

Please. He dropped 3 straight in his "prime."

Romanticize all you want.

He dropped 3 straight after being undefeated for 10 years. Who else goes 10 years unbeaten? Everyone else loses in their first 10 years and then start declining. Fedor didn't even lose until 2010.

Hendo was 20 lbs lighter and 6 years older.

He took virtually no damage crushing cans for a decade and suddenly went to shit overnight at 33?

Romanticize all you want.

If you actually watched MMA and Fedor's career you would have known he started looking slower and sloppier toward the end of his run. He was still beating Arlovski and Rogers despite appearing slower and with less muscle mass. It wasn't overnight. It was a few years in the making. Best Fedor is 2000 to 2005. He looked uninterested and unmotivated after Cro Cop and then broke his hand again on Zulu. He took a lot of time off and looked slower after that. Hl

Romanticize all you want.

Face-down, ass-up at the hands of an old MW.

His Pride opponents, and he, were juiced to the gills.

Maybe he was. Maybe they were. At least it wasn't against the rules like when Jones fucked over DC.

No shame in getting KO'ed by TRT Hendo. At least it wasn't LW Matt Serra

He weighed more than half of his opponents so the whole him being undersized argument is incorrect.

Also GSP came out of retirement to fight 30-7 mw champ while fedor came out of retirement to fight 2-0 jaideep (now 2-3)…

Fedor and GSP don’t belong in the same breath, sorry buddeh!

Fedor fought MANY fighters bigger than him. I doubt he was heavier than half his opponents. That must be an old stat because his last several opponents have all been bigger.

Fedor made millions to fight Singh. He was already way past his prime. You act like GSP is so tough for beating Bisping and vacating. Truth is GSP is past his prime just like Fedor and knows that was his only winnable fight in 2017.

He could of kept going if he’d kept training hard and fighting inteligently. Instead he got softer and decided to just throw loopy punches and let ‘God’s will’ decide.

Vs

He definitely got out of shape. As for the headhunting and brawling I believe that is injuries and just trying to be more efficient by striking instead of forcing grappling. Same thing as Hendo and Rampage. They got older and stopped using their grappling. They developed confidence in KO power and it just uses less energy to strike with someone than try to clinch, force a takedown and work a scramble at a high pace.

Yeah murderers row lol

Sylvia - out of prime
AA - always Chinny
Randleman - matt Serra of heavyweight/gatekeeper
Coleman - gatekeeper, has 1 good win on his resume in Igor.
Rizzo - literally had no knees at that point in his career. Also if you state that you can’t use fedor losses in the end of his career why should you be able to use his wins?!?!
Nog - you counting him??? He was interim and lost it the next fight after getting knocked out by murrr!!!!

Wow. Just shows how much you know about the sport to discredit all those wins. Fedor beat Nog in 2003 and 2004 when Nog was the best fighter in the world. Big difference from 2008 Zombie Nog. A lot can change in 5 years. You really think Jones and GSP will accomplish anything in the cage in 2023? Lol

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Lol except GSP didn't quit at age 32. Both men fought a middleweight opponent at age 36 TS.

The only difference was that one was heavyweight his whole career and the other was a welterweight. Oh yeah the other difference was how it ended.

36yo GSP:

36yo Fedor:

GSP = GOAT.

Big difference between TRT Hendo in 2011 and 2017 Bisping.

TRT Hendo was the Strikeforce LHW champ and hit like a truck.

Bisping doesn't have anywhere near that type of punching power.

That was also the smallest and most flabby we have ever seen Fedor look when he lost to Hendo. He obviously was not the same fighter as he was a few years before. Hendo on the other hand was jacked up on legal TRT and looked bigger than ever

 

[Rod Farva]

Michael Jordan was mediocre for the Wizards at the end of his career , greatness is measured by the entire body of work , not what happens in the twilight.

How many times can I like this?

 

[markg171]

But it doesn't take away from someone's greatness during their prime , Roy Jones Jr. is one of the pound for pound greatest boxers of all time without question , his twilight is and has been pure dog shit ...changes absolutely no part of him being one of the best ever without question .

Sure, but they said greatness is measured by your entire body of work. If you performed shit at the end of your career, then if you're looking at someone's whole career to determine their greatness you wouldn't just ignore the bad part at the end.

Looking at someone's prime is different than looking at someone's career, which is what they'd said.

So the answer is yes. You should quit at 32 like GSP did and have a close fight.

Quitting while you're ahead might spare you some losses, but it also might cost you some great wins too. GSP came back and got to be only the 4th UFC fighter ever to win titles in multiple weight classes. In the majority of peoples eyes, as evidenced by the most recent poll, that sealed his legacy as the GOAT. If he'd stayed retired he'd still be top 5 GOATs, but now he's #1.

In regards to Fedor, in this thread alone people have said he should've retired as early as the Cro Cop fight. But some of his best wins came after the Cro Cop fight. He made his legacy even better by fighting past points some of his fans think he should've stopped at.

Fighting is always a risk, regardless of whether you're in your prime or not. You can lose at any time, but you can also win at any time.

UFC wanted Fedor to sign a multi fight exclusive contract.

Fedor just wanted one fight with Randy or Brock. He didn't want to sign his rights away.

UFC was too scared Fedor would destroy them and walk away with the title. That would have been embarrassing for UFC.

Fedor couldn't walk away with the title, if he managed to win it. That was the entire reason Randy couldn't leave to fight Fedor. If Fedor was signed to the UFC he'd be bound by the champions clause, just like every other fighter.

What you're trying to beat around the bush is that Fedor didn't want a contract like the other 250+ fighters had, which the UFC rightfully said no to. Just as they rightfully said no to co-promotion.

Not to mention, but I mentioned a decade worth of Fedor fighting post Pride, not just the Randy/Brock saga which was largely between 2008-2011. He's fought in 9 different promotions since Pride folded.

Fedor himself has always been the problem. Not the UFC.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Michael Jordan was mediocre for the Wizards at the end of his career , greatness is measured by the entire body of work , not what happens in the twilight.

Yeah but Jordan was still really good with the Wizards. Fedor is losing to cans and looks worse each time out. Kudos to the idiots that managed him all those years because he obviously needs the money..

 

[MyEnglishIsPeperoni]

Yeah but Jordan was still really good with the Wizards. Fedor is losing to cans and looks worse each time out. Kudos to the idiots that managed him all those years because he obviously needs the money..

 

[clivers]

How much money do you think he's made since then? we all go on about legacy etc but at the end of the day he's probs made a shit load of money even though he's lost a whole lot.

 

[MyEnglishIsPeperoni]

How much money do you think he's made since then? we all go on about legacy etc but at the end of the day he's probs made a shit load of money even though he's lost a whole lot.

he made 2-3 million of fucking dollars last year

 

[Typrune Goatley]

Fedor couldn't walk away with the title, if he managed to win it. That was the entire reason Randy couldn't leave to fight Fedor. If Fedor was signed to the UFC he'd be bound by the champions clause, just like every other fighter.

What you're trying to beat around the bush is that Fedor didn't want a contract like the other 250+ fighters had, which the UFC rightfully said no to. Just as they rightfully said no to co-promotion.

Not to mention, but I mentioned a decade worth of Fedor fighting post Pride, not just the Randy/Brock saga which was largely between 2008-2011. He's fought in 9 different promotions since Pride folded.

Fedor himself has always been the problem. Not the UFC.

Fedor didn't want to sign a multiple fight deal. He just wanted to fight Randy. Then he just wanted to fight Brock. Even years later when Werdum was champ he wanted a one fight contract with Werdum.

Fedor and his team are promoters themselves. They are businessmen. They did not want to be bound by UFC contract when they can run their own show through M1. UFC never wanted to co-promote.

I don't think we are in disagreement on any of that.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

Probably should have called it a day after the Rogers fight. He was already showing signs of slowing down. Just didn’t seem nearly as into the sport by then.

So true. That's when I knew he wasn't the same.

 

[Sano]

Fedor training 2017

Breaks my heart.

WOW he looks old. Like really old, weak and slow. That is a sad sight indeed.

Oh well, we'll see what happens.

 

[jagerbomber84]

Yeah but Jordan was still really good with the Wizards. Fedor is losing to cans and looks worse each time out. Kudos to the idiots that managed him all those years because he obviously needs the money..

Really good is a stretch , he averaged 20 a game while being ball dominant on a terrible team . Fedor recently won 5 straight ...the competition he did it against was underwhelming , I could easily compare that to Jordan with the Wizards , a once great player looking pretty good in underwhelming circumstances .

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Everyone knows Hendo was on LEGAL TRT from 2007 to 2013. I have already told you this and you still play dumb

Show the test results, if not it’s not fact…just like fedor was probably roided over seas since his 4-5 record on us soil but I can’t come up with the test results so it’s not fact….

 

[JBJISGOAT]

Everyone knows Hendo was on TRT lol

Why provide proof of common knowledge?

Well if everybody knows it should be easy to provide documentation supporting your shit argument. Not that it matters, keep trolling like you do and you will end up like @DaPunkMinowahMan and banned. Only a matter of time.