Sherdog POTWR: Round 4: The General Election

[Aegon Spengler]

Umm, that didn't help your case

Also, you can't get on now cause it's after round 1. We had a whole week where regulars could come in and asked to be added if they didn't see their name. It's not a perfect system but it did okay this year around and the list will likely increase next year

If 6 years of posting didn't help my case, it ought to have.


I didn't see the thread until now, but no bother. Maybe next year.

 

[Lead]

If 6 years of posting didn't help my case, it ought to have.


I didn't see the thread until now, but no bother. Maybe next year.

I meant the Mayberry comment. I do recognize you so I wasn't saying off the bat you didn't qualify. We just have it in place that you can't be added after round 1. There were a few big name posters that were missed this year that will be added immoderately to round 1

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I meant the Mayberry comment. I do recognize you so I wasn't saying off the bat you didn't qualify. We just have it in place that you can't be added after round 1. There were a few big name posters that were missed this year that will be added immoderately to round 1

Lol big name posters

Cool, man. If I could vote I don't know that I'd vote for either of these two anyway. I think I'd have run my own campaign and got the Russians to help me out.

 

[AgedFlatus]

Lol big name posters

Cool, man. If I could vote I don't know that I'd vote for either of these two anyway. I think I'd have run my own campaign and got the Russians to help me out.

Crooked Lead just doesn't want to risk anymore palis votes.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Crooked Lead just doesn't want to risk anymore palis votes.

I would vote for whoever is more liberal. No idea who that is in this case.

 

[Lead]

Lol big name posters

Cool, man. If I could vote I don't know that I'd vote for either of these two anyway. I think I'd have run my own campaign and got the Russians to help me out.

By big name, I just mean there were clear regulars who weren't on the list that I missed.

I would vote for whoever is more liberal. No idea who that is in this case.

That is JDragon just by default of Palis being hard right. Despite what people think though, regardless of being right or left leaning, I cannot add anyone new to the registry at this point

 

[irish_thug]

Umm, that didn't help your case

Also, you can't get on now cause it's after round 1. We had a whole week where regulars could come in and asked to be added if they didn't see their name. It's not a perfect system but it did okay this year around and the list will likely increase next year

I recommend voter ID next time around. Foreign passports not acceptable.

 

[Lead]

I recommend voter ID next time around. Foreign passports not acceptable.

@Clippy is fucked

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I recommend voter ID next time around. Foreign passports not acceptable.

I also believe cint is a criminal so he shouldn't be able to vote

 

[Bald1]

What's required fo WR citizenship anyways?

 

[Lead]

What's required fo WR citizenship anyways?

Next year it will be more clear but this year it was about number of posts prior to September 2016, whether it being the majority or a large amount posted. It won't be the same next year. This year, it was hard cause of the election year and migration earlier in the year.

 

[Bald1]

Next year it will be more clear but this year it was about number of posts prior to September 2016, whether it being the majority or a large amount posted. It won't be the same next year. This year, it was hard cause of the election year and migration earlier in the year.

I understand, and apreciate your vagueness. Just thought it might help this latest batch of illegals if they knew just how hopeless their situation was. We are a voter id state, after all!

 

[Hans Gruber]

@Lead

ATTENTION @Lead

You are a stickler for the rules so I would like to bring this to your attention. I know you always try to do the right thing so I am doing this for your own good (and your own conscious)


Round 2 Prime Ang (who posted in Round 1 and told Palis to join the campaign) asked why he wasn't on the voter list and if he could be added.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-63#post-124343791

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"


Round 3 Long time War Room member of 10 years asks to be added to the voter list

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124382149

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124384757

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-17#post-124385445

(Heart breaking posts folks)

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1" (even though a much newer War Room poster made the faulty that left him off-JDragon)



Round 4 Another long time War Room poster asks to be added to the list.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...neral-election.3416117/page-17#post-124751393

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"




All fine and dandy. Rules are rules and should be followed....until they aren't



Take the strange case of AgedFlatus.....an elderly man that kept getting contacted on telemarketer lists. He wanted to be part of the election process and was even joining in the fun in Round 1 and was participating until JDragon does what JDragon does best. Ruined everything (in Round 2)

Round 2

Irresponsible JDragon kept tagging AgedFlatus. AgedFlatus in return kindly and politely asked JDragon to stop:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-33#post-124180249

JDragon didn't listen and kept tagging him. This rightfully angered Aged Flatus

Round 3
Then Clippy (innocently influenced by conniving JDragon) angered him further

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-25#post-124478789

Rightfully frustrated, Aged Flatus asked to be removed from what he considered a telemarketing list (not a voter list) after he is mocked for being an old man (by you Lead)

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350051

Aged Flatus lashes out after a mod (Lead) mocks him instead of helping. Flatus did not want his right to vote removed. He only wanted to be removed from what he considered a spam list.

(Lead basically says "Will do old man" not even explaining that he is removing his right to vote)
Aged Flatus replies ("MASS TAGGING PEOPLE IS ON THE LEVEL OF SLEAZY TELEMARKETERS")

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350231

How was the Voter List changed in Round 3 when you refused to change the Voter List in Round 2, 3, and 4 for other long time War Room members?

In other cases War Room members were told the list was LOCKED but it wasn't locked in Round 3 when AgedFlatus wanted people to stop spamming him. He actually never said "Take my right to vote away" because he didn't want it taken away.

Lead, I don not believe that you intentionally broke your own rules but now that you see that this is very inconsistent with what you did in the past AgedFlatus should still be on the voter list. He just doesn't want to receive spam. Afteralll.....he even voted. If he didn't want to participate he would have voted.

 

[Lead]

@Lead

ATTENTION @Lead

You are a stickler for the rules so I would like to bring this to your attention. I know you always try to do the right thing so I am doing this for your own good.


Round 2 Prime Ang (who posted in Round 1 and told Palis to join the campaign) asked why he wasn't on the voter list and if he could be added.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-63#post-124343791

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"


Round 3 Long time War Room member of 10 years asks to be added to the voter list

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124382149

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124384757

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-17#post-124385445

(Heart breaking posts folks)

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1" (even though a much newer War Room poster made the faulty that left him off-JDragon)



Round 4 Another long time War Room poster asks to be added to the list.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...neral-election.3416117/page-17#post-124751393

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"




All fine and dandy. Rules are rules and should be followed....until they aren't


Take the strange case of AgedFlatus.....an elderly man that kept getting contacted on telemarketer lists. He wanted to be part of the election process and was even joining in the fun in Round 1 and was participating until JDragon ruined his fun in Round 2.

Round 2-
Irresponsible JDragon kept tagging him. AgedFlatus nicely asked him to stop:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-33#post-124180249

JDragon didn't listen and kept tagging him. This rightfully angered Aged Flatus

Round 3
Then Clippy (innocently influenced by conniving JDragon) angered him further

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-25#post-124478789

Aged Flatus asked to be removed from what he considered a telemarketing list (not a voter list) after he is mocked for being an old man (by you Lead)

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350051

Aged Flatus lashes out after a mod (Lead) mocks him instead of helping. Flatus did not want his right to vote removed. He only wanted to be removed from what he considered a spam list.

(Lead basically says "Will do old man" not even explaining that he is removing his right to vote)
Aged Flatus replies ("MASS TAGGING PEOPLE IS ON THE LEVEL OF SLEAZY TELEMARKETERS")

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350231

How was the Voter List changed in Round 3 when you refused to change the Voter List in Round 2, 3, and 4 for other long time War Room members?

In other cases War Room members were told the list was LOCKED but it wasn't locked in Round 3 when AgedFlatus wanted people to stop spamming him. He actually never said "Take my right to vote away" because he didn't want it taken away.

Lead, I don not believe that you intentionally broke your own rules but now that you see that this is very inconsistent with what you did in the past AgedFlatus should still be on the voter list. He just doesn't want to receive spam. Afteralll.....he even voted. If he didn't want to participate he would have voted.

I went over this a page back. The idiot asked to be taken off and I did so BEFORE he voted so this doesn't even have to do with who he voted for. I explained the difference between being added and asking to be removed and then for some reason voting after the fact. He made a very dumb hypothetical and I don't feel bad for him. I also bet you reached out to him just to make this a controversy cause he didn't care about the thread all the way up to this sound and even said he doesn't care which way this is ruled. I feel no pity for anyone involved and you are comparing other situations that aren't the same

 

[Hans Gruber]

I went over this a page back. The idiot asked to be taken off and I did so BEFORE he voted so this doesn't even have to do with who he voted for. I explained the difference between being added and asking to be removed and then for some reason voting after the fact. He made a very dumb hypothetical and I don't feel bad for him. I also bet you reached out to him just to make this a controversy cause he didn't care about the thread all the way up to this sound and even said he doesn't care which way this is ruled. I feel no pity for anyone involved and you are comparing other situations that aren't the same

I promise that I didn;t reach out to him.


Here is the problem.

Other members asked if they could vote (before AgedFlatus was even taken off the list)

They were told the list was set.


Aged Flatus complained about "Telemarketing and being tagged repeatedly"

He never said take away my right to vote. He wanted of the "marketing list"


If the Voter List was set in stone for everyone else after Round 1 (for people that were asking for the right to vote) you can't take away someone's right to vote for wanting off a telemarketing list.


With you being such a big JDragon supporter I would hate for people accuse you of being biased.

You are going to ruin your pristine record of following the rules over this?

 

[Bald1]

@Lead

ATTENTION @Lead

You are a stickler for the rules so I would like to bring this to your attention. I know you always try to do the right thing so I am doing this for your own good.


Round 2 Prime Ang (who posted in Round 1 and told Palis to join the campaign) asked why he wasn't on the voter list and if he could be added.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-63#post-124343791

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"


Round 3 Long time War Room member of 10 years asks to be added to the voter list

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124382149

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-16#post-124384757

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-17#post-124385445

(Heart breaking posts folks)

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1" (even though a much newer War Room poster made the faulty that left him off-JDragon)



Round 4 Another long time War Room poster asks to be added to the list.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...neral-election.3416117/page-17#post-124751393

Request Denied. You wouldn't add him because the list "WAS SET AFTER ROUND 1"




All fine and dandy. Rules are rules and should be followed....until they aren't


Take the strange case of AgedFlatus.....an elderly man that kept getting contacted on telemarketer lists. He wanted to be part of the election process and was even joining in the fun in Round 1 and was participating until JDragon ruined his fun in Round 2.

Round 2-
Irresponsible JDragon kept tagging him. AgedFlatus nicely asked him to stop:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-2-the-debate.3400855/page-33#post-124180249

JDragon didn't listen and kept tagging him. This rightfully angered Aged Flatus

Round 3
Then Clippy (innocently influenced by conniving JDragon) angered him further

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/s...jungle-primary.3408983/page-25#post-124478789

Aged Flatus asked to be removed from what he considered a telemarketing list (not a voter list) after he is mocked for being an old man (by you Lead)

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350051

Aged Flatus lashes out after a mod (Lead) mocks him instead of helping. Flatus did not want his right to vote removed. He only wanted to be removed from what he considered a spam list.

(Lead basically says "Will do old man" not even explaining that he is removing his right to vote)
Aged Flatus replies ("MASS TAGGING PEOPLE IS ON THE LEVEL OF SLEAZY TELEMARKETERS")

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/sherdog-potwr-round-3-the-jungle-primary.3408983/#post-124350231

How was the Voter List changed in Round 3 when you refused to change the Voter List in Round 2, 3, and 4 for other long time War Room members?

In other cases War Room members were told the list was LOCKED but it wasn't locked in Round 3 when AgedFlatus wanted people to stop spamming him. He actually never said "Take my right to vote away" because he didn't want it taken away.

Lead, I don not believe that you intentionally broke your own rules but now that you see that this is very inconsistent with what you did in the past AgedFlatus should still be on the voter list. He just doesn't want to receive spam. Afteralll.....he even voted. If he didn't want to participate he would have voted.

That was a well researched post, and I believe you made a strong case proving shenanigans by the overlord of this process.

Alas, all for naught due to your cowardice in not tagging the cloud yeller, @AgedFlatus. Your reluctance of angering the elderly is shameful. Without us youngins instigating fist shaking and kane pointing those fogies would never get any exercise. Won't you think of the ancient!?

 

[Clippy]

Is this still going on?

Let's get to the finish line already

 

[Hans Gruber]

That was a well researched post, and I believe you made a strong case proving shenanigans by the overlord of this process.

Alas, all for naught due to your cowardice in not tagging the cloud yeller, @AgedFlatus. Your reluctance of angering the elderly is shameful. Without us youngins instigating fist shaking and kane pointing those fogies would never get any exercise. Won't you think of the ancient!?

Dude...AgedFlatus is going to be pissed.

(I agree that the case is flawless though and Lead should put his biases aside.)

 

[Lead]

Also Hans, you point plays into exactly what I was deciding between the two options I mentioned earlier. Let me repost it.

1.) The registry is locked in every sense, including removals even by request of the user. Aged Flatus never should've been removed from the beginning cause he didn't have the power to remove himself from the list after Round 1.
2.) A user can only be removed by their own request. Once done, they are seen as any other user not on the registry after Round 1 and cannot request to be added.

So in other words, your whole argument is about posters being ADDED to the registry which means Aged Flatus cannot be added back once being a moron asking to be removed. I am a stickler for the rules and as I mentioned in the rules, there isn;t a clear guidance on what should be done, thus the reason I have the option of choosing 1 or 2 which is BS cause it never should've happened that way. I never should've had to deal with a person bitching about how dumb the thread is for all four rounds, saying to get removed from this "shit thread" and then come back and vote afterwards. When he requested to be removed he hadn't voted and showed no interest in doing so whic isn't biased or rigged on my part. My guess is the same person who made those two fake accounts similar to the banned ones also asked Flatus to suddenly care about voting.

 

[Bald1]

Dude...AgedFlatus is going to be pissed.

(I agree that the case is flawless though and Lead should put his biases aside.)

I'm hoping he'll see the humour in it.

If not, I apologize, and won't tag you again AF. Unless you need the exercise...