PC Sherdog PC Build/Buy Thread, v6: My Power Supply Burned Down My House

I just got mine in January.
Stupid Nvidia recommends PSUs based on using a 9950X. <lmao>
 
Okay I've encountered a possible issue. Sometimes when I reset, PC won't post. Top right LED i believe, DRAM. I havent had an issue just shutting it down, and then I reset it several times and it seemed fine. But if I play for like 20 minutes or so and then restart, it gets stuck. Any ideas?
 
WhiteMousse said:
Okay I've encountered a possible issue. Sometimes when I reset, PC won't post. Top right LED i believe, DRAM. I havent had an issue just shutting it down, and then I reset it several times and it seemed fine. But if I play for like 20 minutes or so and then restart, it gets stuck. Any ideas?
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Throw it out, it's no good anymore
 
Reseated the memory, seems good now. I was too much of a pussy putting in the first time. Kind of like when I lost my virginity
 
WhiteMousse said:
Okay I've encountered a possible issue. Sometimes when I reset, PC won't post. Top right LED i believe, DRAM. I havent had an issue just shutting it down, and then I reset it several times and it seemed fine. But if I play for like 20 minutes or so and then restart, it gets stuck. Any ideas?
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Try different AMP profiles. Use Y-cruncher if you want a quick stress test to verify if there is a stability issue with the DRAM at a certain frequency or setting.

*Edit* NVM, looks like you resolved it with a proper seating.
 
WhiteMousse said:
Is this the guy?


Thank you sir
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Yeah. This is just intended to expedite a knowledge of whether or not the RAM is stable. It's not necessary. Just using the computer, turning it on and off again as you have, will ultimately reveal whether or not the RAM is operating stably at a certain AMP profile. If it intermittently isn't posting, then you've got an issue, obviously. Disabling any AMP is the most surefire way to stabilize it, but you can wade into the world of manually calibrating timings and voltages in the BIOS if you desire.

Updating your BIOS isn't a bad suggestion, either, but don't do that until disabling the AMP to ensure the RAM is stable. The last thing you want is a system crash in the middle of a BIOS update.
 
Madmick said:
Updating your BIOS isn't a bad suggestion
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Its the only solution.

But hey, what the hell do i know. Im only 2/2 on hardware conflicts concerns coming true relating to this build.
 
Madmick said:
Yeah. This is just intended to expedite a knowledge of whether or not the RAM is stable. It's not necessary. Just using the computer, turning it on and off again as you have, will ultimately reveal whether or not the RAM is operating stably at a certain AMP profile. If it intermittently isn't posting, then you've got an issue, obviously. Disabling any AMP is the most surefire way to stabilize it, but you can wade into the world of manually calibrating timings and voltages in the BIOS if you desire.

Updating your BIOS isn't a bad suggestion, either, but don't do that until disabling the AMP to ensure the RAM is stable. The last thing you want is a system crash in the middle of a BIOS update.
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What's AMP? Or you mean XMP?
 
KaNesDeath said:
Its the only solution.

But hey, what the hell do i know. Im only 2/2 on hardware conflicts concerns coming true relating to this build.
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You said the case was "completely the wrong PC case" to house the 5090, but it's proven perfectly adequate. So you were wrong. You initially suggested the Corsair 9000D as an alternative, a massive 82-lb case that would have only added 0.39" clearance, so it wouldn't have resolved the side panel cable cramping issue, when the ideal solution was an alternative cable with a 90 degree connector. Subsequently, you Googled "Gamers Nexus Case of the Year" and tried changing your answer to the XL version of their recommendation with the Fractal Design North XL only after learning for the first time in your life, neophyte that you are to these more obscure issues, the case width is NOT the specification to quote when the consideration is side panel clearance, but CPU cooler height. Don't think we didn't notice.

You tried justifying this by saying "GPU units, CPU heatsinks and PSU's will only get progressively larger. Case fan dimensions are even increasing." The width of PSUs aren't an issue, but FYI, his iCue 5000X case supports PSU lengths up to 250mm, the Corsair 9000D supports a maximum of 225mm. Wrong. And "case fan dimensions", LOL. Really? 120mm mounts have been standard for over 20 years. Furthermore, neither the 9000D or North XL would support future expansions of this. They are built to support the same 120mm/140mm mount standards as the 5000X. LOL.

You said the case would run hot, calling it a "tempered glass coffin", but his temps are excellent. Wrong.

You said to look for verified RAM overclocking profiles in the motherboard manual (this is wrong, they're in the QVL list, and this isn't in the motherboard manual) because they often don't support the proper profile until 6-12 months after their release (for a motherboard was that released in September 2022). Again, wrong and wrong.

You pointed to the 5090 for having a faulty port and faulty drivers. But the melting issue can affect any GPU running on the newer 12VHPWR port. That includes the 5080, 5070 Ti, 5070, 4090, 4080 Super, 4070 Ti Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Super. This is a "scarebait" issue that affects a tiny number of users, and most of them probably resulted from using too many adapters, or older pre-T4 cables that aren't rated to the amperage that come in the box with newer PSUs or for newer cables like his Cablemod 90 degree connector.

You naysayed the 5090 purchase because "Unless you are driving a 4K display or utilizing a 500+hz monitor. 5090 purchase doesnt make sense." That's profoundly ignorant. The 5090's framerate advantage over any other GPU applies to any resolution or graphic setting.

You wrote, "Certain aspects of a fresh build make sense to spend more on. For those components can be brought over into newer future builds for decades, yes decades. Such as tower, case fans, power supply, storage device, headphones, mouse, keyboard and microphone." LOL, storage device? Since adopting the NVMe standard, storage speeds have been evolving at roughly the same rate as RAM. If he sunk $400 into the best SATA III SSD on the market a decade ago that would still be a heaping pile of shit running, at best, at 1/10th the speed compared to today's PCIe 4.0x4 sub-$100 drives.

You recommended spending a minimum of $350 on the mouse and keyboard. I can't even.


Finally, you advise him to upgrade the BIOS in the middle of what appears to be stability issues with the RAM. Good suggestion, incredibly irresponsible as a troubleshoot before first directing him to run the RAM at its default speed. Because an unstable system crashing in the middle of a BIOS update could brick the damn motherboard.
 
Slobodan said:
What's AMP? Or you mean XMP?
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Yeah, I'm showin my age. Same thing. "XMP" was technically Intel's terminology, "AMP" was AMD's. I'm just in the habit of using the old terminology, it doesn't matter what you say. Everyone always said XMP because Intel had a monopoly for so long. EXPO, AXMP, DOCP, LOLWTFBBQ, doesn't matter.
 
KaNesDeath said:
AMD and Intel use different terminology for the same thing.
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Yeah I know about XMP and EXPO, just haven't heard of AMP before. Or if I did, I just forgot about it.
 
KaNesDeath said:
Its the only solution.

But hey, what the hell do i know. Im only 2/2 on hardware conflicts concerns coming true relating to this build.
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Come on man let's play nice.

It wasn't the bios. That was one of the first things I updated.

I'm not absolutely sure but I believe I've figured it out.

I got done playing Once Human for about 50 minutes. Restarted. No problem. I'll test again but after extensive googling I believe it's an issue with iCUE software and HWiNFO. The two utilize readings of the same thing and this can cause a conflict with the embedded controller.

Now HWiNFO might have updated their program to accommodate this. I don't know. But I uninstalled it, disabled fast startup in windows, and at least this last time, no reset hangup.

Fingers crossed but so far I like what I see
 
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