PC Sherdog PC Build/Buy Thread, v6: My Power Supply Burned Down My House

Madmick said:
It's possible he might even benefit from actual server CPUs. That is the Epyc line from AMD (Turin or Turin Dense are the current line), or the Xeon line from Intel (Xeon 6 is current). But those are very specialized, and usually if someone is compiling code, then they'll want the higher frequency CPUs from the more mainstream Zen 5 or Raptor Lake processors.
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Wouldn't the Threadripper be suited for this, high core count and higher frequency than the Epyc CPUs (I think they get close enough tot the mainstream Zen chips now)
 
Madmick said:
The only meaningful differences in terms of the hardware you pursue is they tend to prize CPUs with the higher core counts, and often a higher volume of RAM. GPUs are rarely leveraged for this stuff, although maybe that's changing with the A.I. rush, you'd have to check to see if whatever new SQL stuff he is using leverages that.

These days this amounts to practically no difference. Because unlike years ago the 16-core CPUs now can achieve the same per-thread performance as the 8-core or lesser variants that gamers have historically prized. So while most gamers will opt for the 9800X3D, for example, they do so from a cost-benefit analysis; because the 9950X3D is much more expensive, but adds nothing, not because it is inferior for gaming. In years past, those 16-core CPUs would have been significantly worse in games (even when they had a mode to shut off half the cores).

It's possible he might even benefit from actual server CPUs. That is the Epyc line from AMD (Turin or Turin Dense are the current line), or the Xeon line from Intel (Xeon 6 is current). But those are very specialized, and usually if someone is compiling code, then they'll want the higher frequency CPUs from the more mainstream Zen 5 or Raptor Lake processors.

For RAM, you will want the fastest, but often they'll max out the motherboards if they work with large enough datasets it actually can fill up that many gigabytes.

If he can leverage A.I. cores in the latest GPUs then he'll almost undoubtedly want an NVIDIA GPU, and probably them being newer will matter more to him than even gamers.
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Thanks Man. I'll discuss these options with him tomorrow. He's got terabytes of data, however, they're all flat .dbf files. I did a direct comparison of FoxPro vs Supabase in GPT's Deep Research. At the very end of the comparison it said "FoxPro is great for a single user on an old PC" lol. I thought that was funny.

Some of those pre-builts using those CPU's look kind of pricey so I'm going to need to get some more information from him on what he wants exactly. I'll definitely clue him in on the RAM.
 
Slobodan said:
Wouldn't the Threadripper be suited for this, high core count and higher frequency than the Epyc CPUs (I think they get close enough tot the mainstream Zen chips now)
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They could be, the Threadrippers were the ones aimed at those doing editing tasks with programs that still benefited from the higher per-thread performance. Huge cache pools, too. They could be just what he's after.
 
Madmick said:
They could be, the Threadrippers were the ones aimed at those doing editing tasks with programs that still benefited from the higher per-thread performance. Huge cache pools, too. They could be just what he's after.
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This is a digital rolodex using Windows XP for the past ~20 years that he's only querying, editing, adding and copying from. While the amount of files may be large. A single entries size is in bytes.
 
KaNesDeath said:
This is a digital rolodex using Windows XP for the past ~20 years that he's only querying, editing, adding and copying from. While the amount of files may be large. A single entries size is in bytes.
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The less you speak the richer the forum is for it.
 
Madmick said:
The less you speak the richer the forum is for it.
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File size is so low that the content of all 50 million files can be stored in Ram. CPU from the Windows XP era can parse through it within a few seconds.

Threadripper is a solution to hundreds of remote users performing these tasks at the same time.
 
KaNesDeath said:
File size is so low that the content of all 50 million files can be stored in Ram. CPU from the Windows XP era can parse through it within a few seconds.

Threadripper is a solution to hundreds of remote users performing these tasks at the same time.
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We don't know the exact nature of what his father ultimately intends to do to and with the database of records, since it sounds like he intends to modernize it, or exactly how the computer working with the information is intended to be used and what purposes it will serve. We were asked a very generalized question.
 
My Spot said:
I would suggest an Aorus Elite B650 instead but I guess you may as well get an X870E if you're getting a 9800X3D and 5090.
Are you dead set on the Aorus Master 5090? You could save $200 buying another 5090.
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No, not dead set, especially after I heard about the thermal gel leaks. Leaning towards the MSI Suprim. What are your thoughts on that one?
 
WhiteMousse said:
No, not dead set, especially after I heard about the thermal gel leaks. Leaning towards the MSI Suprim. What are your thoughts on that one?
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That one has the best air cooling but it's also $200 more than even the Aorus Master.
Right now the Asus TUF Gaming is $2760 on PCPP. Doesn't cool as well but still better than the FE.

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Here are warranties:

ASUS: 3 years
Zotac: 3 years
Gigabyte: 3 years (4 years for Aorus brand though)
PNY: 3 years
MSI: 3 years

This used to be an easy choice for Nvidia but unfortunately EVGA got out of the GPU game after the 3000 series. I'm partial to PNY since they've been making Nvidia enterprise and prebuild cards for over 20 years (and my current 4070 Super is PNY). And if you're lucky enough to live near a Microcenter they have the PNY 5090 OC for $2500 on sale this weekend.
 
LTT just put up the first edition of the new Scrapyard Wars on youtube.
 
Got a bit of an emergency here. I was playing Alien Isolation and my computer died. The power button was illuminated but nothing else was on. Did a hard reset, unplugged, and no video, no bios. Everything is lighting up but there is a red LED indicating video problem.

Am I fucked? Any advice?
 
WhiteMousse said:
Got a bit of an emergency here. I was playing Alien Isolation and my computer died. The power button was illuminated but nothing else was on. Did a hard reset, unplugged, and no video, no bios. Everything is lighting up but there is a red LED indicating video problem.

Am I fucked? Any advice?
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What is your CPU again? Does it have on onboard iGPU? If it does, you should be able to boot from it assuming the discrete GPU is the issue. Otherwise, with only that red LED indicator, yeah, you just have to assume your GPU isn't functioning, and might be dead. If you have another GPU to swap in to check, then that's your test control.
 
It's an AMD 5800X. If I buy a 5090 right now will it fit in the case? Corsair iCue 5000x. I can get the MSI Gamer RTX 5090 right now
 
Uh oh, no iGPU on the 5800X.
If you're playing Alien Isolation (which is over 10 years old now) you could go on FB Marketplace and get a temporary stopgap for $60-$80.
 
This is what I have. I plugged HDMI in but I'm not getting any video
 

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Mouse and keyboard aren't appearing to work either. But I don't have any video
 
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