Elections ***Second Democratic Primary Debate play-by-play thread: Night 1. ***

[Reactionary Corporatist]

You don't throw the people you're fighting for under the bus for political gain.

That's not a good look.

Ironic considering Clinton still dominated the black vote.

Hillary won the black vote because of her associations with Obama. Like all voters, black voters are uninformed and easily mislead. Hence why they voted for the tough on crime neo liberal prison hawk instead of the life long civil rights advocate that marched with dr King.

 

[Viva]

Hillary won the black vote because of her associations with Obama. Like all voters, black voters are uninformed and easily mislead. Hence why they voted for the tough on crime neo liberal prison hawk instead of the life long civil rights advocate that marched with dr King.

They voted for her because she played the game better than Sanders. She is a fierce political opponent who has used identity politics to her advantage for decades, even when she was working under the dubious Barry Goldwater. The difference is, Bernie is clumsy and surrounds himself with sycophants rather than advisers who could feasibly lead him to victory.

And marching with MLK means fuck all. The guy was a fraud and a liar who was nothing more than a talking head for people more powerful and intelligent. MLK cheated his way through college, was a constant adulterer despite having the status of "Reverend", and allegedly "laughed and watched" his friend rape a woman. But of course Bernie would be tied up with degenerates like King.

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[Eusung]

Trevor Noah actually did a fair recap of the debate that was pretty funny. He actually criticized the candidates for the way they talk about their plan for border control (saying Trump did a good job of painting them as the open borders party, and they have done a poor job responding to it) and was pretty critical of CNN (even adding more shade at CNN and Bernie's attack on them about healthcare ads). He also didn't show any bias for the corporate candidates the way Stephen Colbert does these days...oh a few days ago he did a good interview with Andrew Yang but its not uploaded:

 

[Reactionary Corporatist]

They voted for her because she played the game better than Sanders. She is a fierce political opponent who has used identity politics to her advantage for decades, even when she was working under the dubious Barry Goldwater. The difference is, Bernie is clumsy and surrounds himself with sycophants rather than advisers who could feasibly lead him to victory.

And marching with MLK means fuck all. The guy was a fraud and a liar who was nothing more than a talking head for people more powerful and intelligent. MLK cheated his way through college, was a constant adulterer despite having the status of "Reverend", and allegedly "laughed and watched" his friend rape a woman. But of course Bernie would be tied up with degenerates like King.

https://news.yahoo.com/martin-luthe...5bzY5BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

Yeah you have nothing of value to say and not a single person on this forum should waste a single iota of their time reading your insane drivel.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Yeah you have nothing of value to say and not a single person on this forum should waste a single iota of their time reading your insane drivel.

He is correct about Martin Luth---I mean Michael King Jr. He was a pawn and a sex addict. Sucks but true.

 

[Viva]

Yeah you have nothing of value to say and not a single person on this forum should waste a single iota of their time reading your insane drivel.

The FBI has loads of files on MLK, and from the lot they've released it isn't hard to ascertain that he was fraudulent. His motives mat have been noble, but like Gandhi and Mandela, if you're a complete piece of shit outside of the spotlight, how can you expect others to follow? Its as simple as "practice what you preach", which none of these clowns in Washington seem to get. Bernie isn't as bad as some of the others, but at the end of the day he's a career politician. And that should say something.

You can continue to take the ostrich approach, but that makes you just as uniformed as those black voters you were on about.

 

[ocean size]

Is funny but. But ultimately Trump is worst at this. Which is wild considering his humble claim is still a million dollar loan from dad.

 

[ocean size]

The FBI has loads of files on MLK, and from the lot they've released it isn't hard to ascertain that he was fraudulent. His motives mat have been noble, but like Gandhi and Mandela, if you're a complete piece of shit outside of the spotlight, how can you expect others to follow? Its as simple as "practice what you preach", which none of these clowns in Washington seem to get. Bernie isn't as bad as some of the others, but at the end of the day he's a career politician. And that should say something.

You can continue to take the ostrich approach, but that makes you just as uniformed as those black voters you were on about.

MLK really liked extramarital quim. But it's a moot point unless you think his claim to fame was marching to end adultery. The rape claim was written into a report during an FBI dirt gathering operation so I suppose based on what an agent heard through a bug, while it could be true don't consider me convinced.

Even so, kinda silly to hold someone accountable for their association with someone else that secretly was a dirtbag. The claim was locked down in an FBI file. It's not like it's Clinton and Trumps buddying with Epstein who was a known predator.

As for how can you expect people to follow you even if you are a punani bloodhound- easy. Ask your examples Ghandi and Mandela, their leadership and spearheading public sentiment didn't seem to suffer much. Shit, it doesn't even seem to matter for people that actually preach against adultery and can't stop oofing hookers, look at Jimmy Swaggart.

 

[JamesRussler]

They voted for her because she played the game better than Sanders. She is a fierce political opponent who has used identity politics to her advantage for decades, even when she was working under the dubious Barry Goldwater. The difference is, Bernie is clumsy and surrounds himself with sycophants rather than advisers who could feasibly lead him to victory.

And marching with MLK means fuck all. The guy was a fraud and a liar who was nothing more than a talking head for people more powerful and intelligent. MLK cheated his way through college, was a constant adulterer despite having the status of "Reverend", and allegedly "laughed and watched" his friend rape a woman. But of course Bernie would be tied up with degenerates like King.

https://news.yahoo.com/martin-luthe...5bzY5BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

Long time no see!
Glad you’re back for the party.

 

[Viva]

MLK really liked extramarital quim. But it's a moot point unless you think his claim to fame was marching to end adultery. The rape claim was written into a report during an FBI dirt gathering operation so I suppose based on what an agent heard through a bug, while it could be true don't consider me convinced.

Even so, kinda silly to hold someone accountable for their association with someone else that secretly was a dirtbag. The claim was locked down in an FBI file. It's not like it's Clinton and Trumps buddying with Epstein who was a known predator.

Dude was a fraudulent piece of shit, plain and simple.

Epstein wasn't into legal hot water until 2005, and existed in a time where news spreads much quicker than it did in the 60's. Had Epstein been prevalent during King's timeline, he'd have likely been a "secret" dirtbag himself, considering he's likely been engaging in these acts for decades. Not that Bernie had any idea of MLK's personal life, but I'm not shocked to see the blind leading the blind. Or rather, frauds leading frauds.

 

[ocean size]

Pampering > Pandering






I tagged Kuracana out of humor because Bernie's campaign has been repeating that for the last four months and he started a thread about it a while back. These recent moves he's been pulling with the KSA are absurd and quite dangerous though. I (at least) don't think he's homophobic, nor do I know or associate with anybody who does. I actually defended Trump on that yesterday.

Where did VP come into it i'm confused by that bit of the post

 

[japman40]

Bernie and Warren destroyed the diet Republicans this time. Ryan and Delaney got roasted bad, both need to drop out asap. Delaney got tag teamed, almost felt bad, almost.

 

[Ultra O’Dia]

MLK banged lots of broads. He just went up another notch I my books. Just passed Gandhi.

 

[ocean size]

Dude was a fraudulent piece of shit, plain and simple.

Epstein wasn't into legal hot water until 2005, and existed in a time where news spreads much quicker than it did in the 60's. Had Epstein been prevalent during King's timeline, he'd have likely been a "secret" dirtbag himself, considering he's likely been engaging in these acts for decades. Not that Bernie had any idea of MLK's personal life, but I'm not shocked to see the blind leading the blind. Or rather, frauds leading frauds.

Silly to juxtapose MLK and Bernie if you readily admit Bernie didn't know how he had whatever shitty traits. It's not like he marched with him because he thought he was a moral paragon in a vaccuum, but because he lead a movement.

Also quite silly to call him a plain and simple fraud as if the march he figureheaded didnt result in historic civil rights legislation being passed. Shit even if he was a secretly racist against blacks instead of a man whore or whatever your beef is, he's still a big factor in the
organisation of a movement that ended racial voting discrimination.

Do all adulterers become unredeemable frauds along with their legacies in your eyes or just certain ones?

Doesnt sound like Epstein wasn't a secret perv the way he was widely extorting people that attended his parties. Trump even had that odd soundbite in 2002 where he praised Epstein and then in his stream of consciousness way mentioned that he likes em young.

 

[BoxingFan653]

He's not running on identity politics. He's running on economic populism and seizing back control of our government and country from a tiny powerful elite. That is the root problem in this country and no other candidate addresses it aside from Warren. Literally nothing else matters as long as our government is captured by a tiny elite and serves their interests instead of the common people's interests

You and I both know or at least I hope
You know the answer to these titanically corrupt corporations is not taxing the middle class and self made rich individuals.

I’m not suggesting trump is the answer eithe But those smoking a pipe dream about Bernie’s democratic socialism are significantly more brainwashed than those trumpers who actually thought mehico would pay for the wall

 

[Deleted member 484047]

I was busy getting drunk and laid while this happened.

What did I miss?

 

[JamesRussler]

Ok, just went to r/politics


A lot of people are unironically supporting Maryanne.



Is this the fucking twilight zone?

They aren’t really supporting her. It’s all just ironic non-ironic-double-irony

In other words, they want you to believe they’re seriously supporting her as a joke—which is in fact what they’re doing.

 

[Richie Madano]

There were no winners, and a bunch of losers. What a load of democrap that was.

 

[Richie Madano]

Here comes the crazy

She actually normally starts off ok, and then ends it with something about Chakra and Ki

In s room full of nut jobs, that really wasn’t the craziest thing said by any means. The democrats are fucking done. Maybe after they lose again to Trump they can fix themselves.

 

[Richie Madano]

That crowd just applauded sending more idiots to college and we all pay for it. People that can’t even write in paragraph form, or spell, or do rudimentary math.

America is gonna go down the tubes

College is for doctors, nurses, statisticians, scientists, business people, lawyers, writers, teachers, and computer programmers. If those aren’t your career aspirations, then college is a waste of time and money.