Elections ***Second Democratic Primary Debate play-by-play thread: Night 1. ***

[Fawlty]

For @PHATV who did a great job with the last debate threads

CNN livestream can be found here:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/democratic-debate-july-30-2019/index.html

Second Democratic Primary Debates


July 30 and 31, 2019
NBC News Democratic Primary Debate
Time: 8 p.m. ET (5 p.m. PT)
Aired On: CNN
Live Stream: cnn.com, cnn app (there will probably be at least one official YT stream too)


Night 1 - July 30
On stage from left to right- Marrianne Williamson, Tim Ryan, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke, John Hickenlooper, John Delaney, Steve Bullock

Night 2 - July 31
On stage from left to right- Michael Bennet, Kirsten Gillibrand, Julián Castro, Cory Booker, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Andrew Yang, Tulsi Gabbard, Jay Inslee, Bill de Blasio


Location: Fox Theatre, Detroit, MI

Moderators: Debate moderators will be Dana Bash (CNN Chief Political Correspondent), Don Lemon (Host of "CNN Tonight"), and Jake Tapper (Host of "The Lead with Jake Tapper" and "State of the Union")

Qualifications: To qualify for the second round of debates, candidates had to fulfill one of two criteria: either get 65,000 donors to their campaigns, with at least 200 donors in 20 different states, or obtain at least 1% in three polls recognized as legitimate by the committee.

Rules:

• 60 seconds to respond to moderator-directed questions, 30 seconds for responses and rebuttals. Colored lights will signal warning of time remaining.
• Candidates attacked by name will have 30 seconds to respond
• No show-of-hands, no one-word-answers
• Interrupting candidates may receive time penalties

 

[Fawlty]

Night 1 candidate primer:



Steve Bullock

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

Governor of Montana, 2013-present
Montana Attorney General, 2009-2013
Attorney, inc. Assistant State A.G., MT, 1990s-2009
​

Education:

Claremont McKenna College
Columbia Law (JD)​

https://www.ontheissues.org/Steve_Bullock.htm


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Pete Buttigieg

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

Mayor of South Bend, IN, 2012-present
Navy Reserve, 2009-2017
Various political consulting, 2004-2008
​

Education:

Harvard
Rhodes Scholar
Oxford, BA (Philosophy, Politics, Economics)​

https://www.ontheissues.org/pete_buttigieg.htm​

John Delaney

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

U.S. House of Representatives, Maryland, 2012-present
Lending and Finance Companies, Founder and CEO 1993-2012
​

Education:

Columbia
Georgetown Law, JD​

https://www.ontheissues.org/john_delaney.htm​

John Hickenlooper

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

Governor of Colorado, 2011-2019
Mayor of Denver, 2003-2011
Restaurateur and Microbrewer, 1988-2007
​

Education:

Wesleyan, MS (Geology)
​

https://www.ontheissues.org/john_hickenlooper.htm​

Amy Klobuchar

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

United States Senator, Minnesota, 2009-2014
Hennepin County Attorney, 1998-2006
​

Education:

Yale
University of Chicago Law, JD​

https://www.ontheissues.org/amy_klobuchar.htm​

Beto O'Rourke

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

U.S. House of Representatives, Texas, 2012-2018
El Paso City Council, 2005-2011
​

Education:

Columbia, B.A.​

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bet`Rourke.htm


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Tim Ryan

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

U.S. House of Representatives, Ohio, 2002-present
​

Education:

Youngstown
Bowling Green
Franklin Pierce Law, JD​

http://www.ontheissues.org/tim_ryan.htm​

Bernie Sanders

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

United States Senator, Vermont, 2007-present
U.S. House of Representatives, Vermont, 1991-2007
Political Science Lecturer, Harvard, Hamilton, 1989-1991
Mayor of Burlington, VT, 1981-1989
​

Education:

Brooklyn College
University of Chicago, BA (Political Science)​

https://www.ontheissues.org/bernie_sanders.htm​

Elizabeth Warren

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

United States Senator, Massachusetts, 2012-present
Advisor (FDIC, TARP, National Bankruptcy Review) 1995-2012
Professor, Harvard Law, 1995-2011
​

Education:

George Washington
University of Houston
Rutgers Law, JD​

https://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Elizabeth_Warren.htm​

Marianne Williamson

Offices Held or Primary Experience:

Various Advocacy Groups (Women, HIV, Poverty, World Peace), Founder, 1980s-present
Self Help Author and Metaphysics Guru, 1979-present
​

Education:

Pomona College​

https://www.ontheissues.org/marianne_williamson.htm

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[Fawlty]

Links to full previous debate:
Night 1: https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6MrDO0kgY
Night 2: https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7hni-zGD8


The first debate was an interesting lesson in early election movement. Julián Castro and Kamala Harris both did very well in their respective debates, each imo winning quite handily, but have returned toward their pre-debate positions. Harris is now carrying an RCP average of 10.5 while Castro is stuck at 1.0. Tulsi Gabbard impressed many including young people, but is carrying a mere 0.8 into the second debate.

Joe Biden, who appeared to falter and crack under pressure from Harris, has bounced back to a 32.0 average. Bernie Sanders has spun his wheels and sits at 16.2 with Elizabeth Warren on his heels at 14.0. Pete Buttigieg continues to float at 5.7 and has not had the same small breakthrough as Harris. Beto O'Rourke's campaign holds on by its fingernails at 2.8, and the Andrew Yang campaign is stuck at 2.0.

The biggest surprise failure may be Cory Booker. He's in the press a lot, a prominent senator, a good speaker and intelligent, but is way down in the basement at 1.5.

All of this goes to show that early debates do not produce the results we would intuitively expect. So we should not put too much stock in them. The only candidate I would say with confidence saw a real bump from the debates is Harris, and even she slipped a long way back after stealing the spotlight in night two of June's debate.

 

[Fawlty]

Night One Candidate Interviews (Pod Save America where available):

Steve Bullock:

Spoiler

Pete Buttigieg:

Spoiler

John Delaney:

Spoiler

John Hickenlooper:

Spoiler

Amy Klobuchar:

Spoiler

Beto O'Rourke:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFzuResOR5Q

Tim Ryan:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4sK5bp1zME

Bernie Sanders:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbXU_4yVE4

Elizabeth Warren:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUvqJ6VpXf0

Marianne Williamson:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwtMSmCdX0Q

 

[Whippy McGee]

Night #1 is the Shit Show... those participating just suck and have no real chance.

Night #2 is the event with the Candidates that have a chance: Biden, Harris, Biden, Harris, and Biden.

The ability for Tulsi Gabbard to show off, win again on Night #2 will likely be thwarted by the Moderation Team. The Democratic Party will never forgive her for disrespecting Hillary Clinton and quitting the DNC Campaign last year when she exposed what Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Donna Brazile, and Stephanie Blake Rawlings did in the primaries to the Clinton opponents.

Night #2 may be Tulsi's only chance to gain traction, unless of Course Google Shuts her down again like they did after she won her first debate.

I predict that Kamala goes after Biden again, but that the moderation team protects him more this time and that he is better prepared. Harris will still have some attention whore move, so it may be entertaining on Night #2. The MSM will declare Biden the victor.

 

[waiguoren]

reserved

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Got Box seats to the Phils tonight so I'll be missing this one

reserved

kvolcom

 

[waiguoren]

reserved

 

[Whippy McGee]

Oh no! It's White Democratic People Only Night!

How could this happen? They do have a Fake Latino, Fake Indian, and a bone fide Gay guy... so thee is that! Perhaps Bernie can identify as a Black Dude for the night?

 

[Serenity Now]

For sell.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Renting

 

[Javelina]

williamson (would hit) is going to bring the love.

also, lol @ puto o'cuck. might be his last time seen in public

 

[Fawlty]

In the spirit of inclusiveness, the DNC will honor all of your reservations.

 

[BudKing8806]

For sell.

Sale....?

 

[Serenity Now]

Sale....?

Three fiddy

 

[bobgeese]

Remember when the democrats lost the 2020 election during the first debate by unanimously supporting healthcare for illegals.


I member...

 

[HockeyBjj]

Oh wow. I didn't realize this was tonight. I thought the 2nd round were in August. Thanks for making the thread

No show-of-hands, no one-word-answers

So DNC learned from their fiasco last time of giving Trump a boatload of ammunition to use against them?

Interrupting candidates may receive time penalties

This is a fantastic rule. I hope it's used and enforced unlike UFC eye pokes

Also pleased to see my favorite crazy author is still in this (somehow)

 

[Deleted member 499399]

Remember when the democrats lost the 2020 election during the first debate by unanimously supporting healthcare for illegals.


I member...

They didn’t really mean it. They were just trolling you for lulz.
4 D backgammon.

 

[Javelina]

In the spirit of inclusiveness, the DNC will honor all of your reservations.

i think fake-a-hontis is claiming she's black so she can get some reparations. i saw it on the internet

#mesouix

 

[HockeyBjj]

Good read NY times article here about the changing lineups of who's on when (and where)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/us/politics/democratic-debate-schedule-lineup.html

Night 1 with Bernie and Warren together this time. Will CNN have targeted questions to try and get them to differentiate on their progressive policies? As of now, they seem merely different messengers of the same platform.

Night 2 Biden will be standing between Kamala Harris and Corey Booker. 1st night Kamala ripped into Biden for his vote against de segregation bussing as well as his perceived compliment of some white supremists. She got her temporary poll boost from this race based attack and could be looking to do again (although I'm sure Biden will be better prepared). Corey Booker recently hit on Biden for his authorship of the 1994 tough on crime bill that is now seen as racist and very harmful to inner city blacks, more than just about any one bill since Jim Crow. Biden could be forced to play a lot of defense and trying to counter from both sides (literally)