Elections ***Second Democratic Primary Debate play-by-play thread: Night 1. ***

[Javelina]

No kidding. Do you know if the DNC is controlling the topics, or is CNN going to ask some of their own q's? Not sure how that whole thing works.

lol, what's the difference?

 

[kpt018]

I can already hear the first question.....

"How many partial birth abortions will you carry out in your first 100 days?"

or

"Do you plan on executing all gun owners or just putting them in jail for life?"

LOL!

 

[JamesRussler]

I got Qumala by KO

 

[waiguoren]

I got Qumala by KO

Wrong night.

 

[Jack V Savage]

No kidding. Do you know if the DNC is controlling the topics, or is CNN going to ask some of their own q's? Not sure how that whole thing works.

Pretty sure the moderators ask their own questions. So we can expect to see more of this:

"You support policy X, which is generally popular but has some implications that are unpopular. Can you go on the record saying that those implications are what you really want?"

 

[Fawlty]

Pretty sure the moderators ask their own questions. So we can expect to see more of this:

"You support policy X, which is generally popular but has some implications that are unpopular. Can you go on the record saying that those implications are what you really want?"

FLOL

 

[JamesRussler]

Wrong night.

Oh okay.

Williamson via spirit bomb

 

[SurferH2O]

So if Tulsi Gabbard wins again... will the MSM continue to ignore her?

 

[JamesRussler]

So if Tulsi Gabbard wins again... will the MSM continue to ignore her?

Of course they will. Google will remove her name from the search indexing entirely.

 

[Fawlty]

So if Tulsi Gabbard wins again... will the MSM continue to ignore her?

She's currently polling at less than 1%. The people who prefer her are mostly left wing Internet nuts, non-voting both sides zombies and Republicans with fascist tendencies.

 

[Fawlty]

Super bold prediction: Regardless of what happens tomorrow on Tulsi's night, her campaign or her supporters will try to start trouble (frivolous $50 million lawsuit, conspiracy theory about a chin zit, online poll storming all came out of June's debate).

 

[kpt018]

She's currently polling at less than 1%. The people who prefer her are mostly left wing Internet nuts, non-voting both sides zombies and Republicans with fascist tendencies.

It's amazing that so many posters on here can't conceive the notion that other people, particularly of very different political leanings, see the candidates differently.

During the Republican primaries I thought to myself Kasich seemed the most decent and reasonable out of the group. And in a world with a bad Democratic candidate I would have voted for him. When he lost and Trump won I didn't think there was some crazy right wing conspiracy (honestly Kasich is 1000X better) but that people on the right think very differently about this stuff than I do. Crazy, I know.

 

[kpt018]

Super bold prediction: Regardless of what happens tomorrow on Tulsi's night, her campaign or her supporters will try to start trouble (frivolous $50 million lawsuit, conspiracy theory about a chin zit, online poll storming all came out of June's debate).

Spot on.

I'm concerned there is a reasonable chance she not only does that but when she's out of the race she tinkers with a third party run!

 

[Sycho Sid]

She's currently polling at less than 1%. The people who prefer her are mostly left wing Internet nuts, non-voting both sides zombies and Republicans with fascist tendencies.

Not to mention she "won" internet polls. Far and away the least accurate of any polling.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Spot on.

I'm concerned there is a reasonable chance she not only does that but when she's out of the race she tinkers with a third party run!

Yeah, I'm expecting it at this point. Could be disastrous for America.

 

[Fawlty]

It's amazing that so many posters on here can't conceive the notion that other people, particularly of very different political leanings, see the candidates differently.

During the Republican primaries I thought to myself Kasich seemed the most decent and reasonable out of the group. And in a world with a bad Democratic candidate I would have voted for him. When he lost and Trump won I didn't think there was some crazy right wing conspiracy (honestly Kasich is 1000X better) but that people on the right think very differently about this stuff than I do. Crazy, I know.

Well said. Off-topic, I loved Chomsky's dig at the 2016 candidates, where he said that the only mature adult in the room, Kasich, didn't deny climate change but said we shouldn't do anything about it.

 

[Renard]

Let's hope the questions are better tonight than the first debate.

Note to DNC: The idea is to promote the Democratic brand not make candidates look like shit.

Just wondering, which questions do you think portrayed the candidates in a negative light?

 

[kpt018]

Well said. Off-topic, I loved Chomsky's dig at the 2016 candidates, where he said that the only mature adult in the room, Kasich, didn't deny climate change but said we shouldn't do anything about it.

Yeah, it's a good point too. Kasich is bad on a lot of issues but I got the sense that he'd surround himself with professionals that could talk sense to him. He was a decent moderate imo but certainly not great.

Edit: More moderate than his opponents and moderate on certain issues, but overall conservative. Thanks @Sycho Sid for the correction.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Yeah, it's a good point too. Kasich is bad on a lot of issues but I got the sense that he'd surround himself with professionals that could talk sense to him. He was a decent moderate imo but certainly not great.

He absolutely was not a moderate. He was more conservative than Bush on a lot issues. He just looked moderate compared to people like Ted Cruz

 

[kpt018]

Just wondering, which questions do you think portrayed the candidates in a negative light?

Almost all of them. That's not a dodge and I'm being serious. Nearly every question was targeted at finding the downsides of every policy or to drive wedges between the candidates.

For example, a question would be framed as something like "your medicare-for-all bill is estimated to cost $3T each year. How will you pay for it?". It should be framed as the proposal stands, which is to replace insurance premiums. The question itself leaves viewers with a negative impression and the candidates then have to bring more context in.

(and I'm open minded but skeptical of medicare-for-all, but that's just an example)