Law School Wouldn’t Let Her Son Opt Out Of Class That Promotes Anti-White Racism. Now She’s Suing

[Papi Chulo]

If I have kids they’re going to catholic school.

That may not be any better today.

I hope you find a school for them. You may have to find a very small private conservative school or homeschool.

 

[HereticBD]

Leftist education is screwing up the next generation. They are taught that they are oppressed if they aren't a white Christian male.

It's all whatever now. The scary thing happens when this generation wakes up and tries to over-correct, like the people they're supporting are trying to do right now. These fucking morons pushing this shit, don't realize the potential consequences of these people shedding themselves of these moronic ideologies in the future.

 

[Natural Order]

Sociologically and in white societies, yes it is. The experiences of individuals already comprise institutional critiques. Anecdotes about really scary racial minorities do not adjust or reallocate political power.



This points to a fundamental misunderstanding of the topic. Of course, on an individual level, racism against a person based on their individual color or creed is more pressing to that person than larger systems of racial domination. That is as obvious and undeniable as the fact that institutional racism derives its power from institutions.

You are supporting my position better than you are supporting your own.



So, again, your position boils down to willful ignorance and blind and unsupported insistence that you're right.

Your general positions are always rooted in the idea that you've not yet come to understand or accept the brutality of competition that fuels every aspect of the natural order. That groups should apologize for their abilities and dominance. That it's a bad thing.

This would quite clearly explain your tendencies to socialism and safe spaces.

For a group of people who philosophically have championed ideas that eliminate the importance of mankind in any grand scheme or narrative, you're certainly offended by hierarchies of man within itself....

 

[Papi Chulo]

It's all whatever now. The scary thing happens when this generation wakes up and tries to over-correct, like the people they're supporting are trying to do right now. These fucking morons pushing this shit, don't realize the potential consequences of these people shedding themselves of these moronic ideologies in the future.

That is the goal of Marxists. In the case of Western societies, it's cultural Marxism. It divides and completely destroys society.

 

[Anewt]

Do you have any actual reasoning as to why Critical Race Theory is racist? Or is it more emotion from your frozen tundra's wifi hotspot.





I think they're yokels because many of them scream about this replacement of white men, all in emotional outburst of indignation, and have yet to show how CRT is actually racist.

I care about shitty ideas being confronted, like these moronic pushes by hardline conservatives, who can always be relied upon to push against any sort of civil rights actions performed in the USA.

Like when the first black President (and only the 10th black senator since slavery's end, out of over 2000 senators) hires a black DOJ head who is reform-minded. He then implements his reform only to have a fascist sweep to power and put a KKK lover into the job, doing away with all his work........

Judging people by such ridiculous concepts as percieved pigment or lack off is racist. Assigning group identity and traits by perception of a individuals group identity without knowing the individual is racist. Can't you this will only create more racism? Telling children and young adults they are born racist is inherently wrong. Its Assigning a negative trait purely by pigment.

Doing so is a shitty idea. Confront it then.

I don't care about Trump.... at all. Your politics are a completely different topic. This is the education for the future. If you think there's white supremacists everywhere just wait 10 years of this idiocy. You're supporting the framework that's going to create some ugly ugly people.

 

[Slick_36]

When you're convinced those others are evil you're more willing to team up against them. Once there are only two teams consisting of sheep, corraling them is much easier than herding cats. I'm not saying that's the methodology, but we're more concerned with squabbling with each other than concentrating on the important issues. And identity politics should be damned low on the list of important things. Yet here we are.

That's kind of why I don't like the statement that racism only counts if there's a power advantage. There's a million variables that determine the power a person has, dividing it on race alone over generalizes the issue and makes it more difficult to come to solutions to the actual problem.

Racism is racism regardless of the impact one form has compared to another, but we can prioritize what we attempt to address. I believe addressing the issues black people face is a top priority, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't wholeheartedly condemn racism towards a white person.

When you got sides who refuse to hear eachother, it just means both sides push towards their respective extremes. An issue like this is going to require us to come together, we're fucked if we can't do that.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Judging people by such ridiculous concepts as percieved pigment or lack off is racist. Assigning group identity and traits by perception of a individuals group identity without knowing the individual is racist. Can't you this will only create more racism? Telling children and young adults they are born racist is inherently wrong. Its Assigning a negative trait purely by pigment.

Yeah, I would wager an easy bet and say the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of curriculum pertaining to the issues aren't telling white children they're all filthy racists. Jesus. It's far more about systemic inequalities and social morese that cause obvious discriminatory practices and biases. To pretend as if these don't exist is absurd.

Almost as absurd as seeing one teacher's slides, or other anecdote, and scaling it out to the entirety of the field.

 

[Trotsky]

Your general positions are always rooted in the idea that you've not yet come to understand or accept the brutality of competition that fuels every aspect of the natural order. That groups should apologize for their abilities and dominance. That it's a bad thing.

This would quite clearly explain your tendencies to socialism and safe spaces.

For a group of people who philosophically have championed ideas that eliminate the importance of mankind in any grand scheme or narrative, you're certainly offended by hierarchies of man within itself....

This is the most of someone who flunked our of Poli Sci 101 but is convinced it's because the professor was biased against him.

But, yes, I do think that when post-Enlightenment societies betray norms of equality, liberty, and due process, they should answer to their failures since those ideals benefit everyone. That, of course, goes for societies of all races and ideologies. Just as the Soviets shouldn't be excused for the subjugation of dissidents or humanitarian abuse of Ukrainians just because domination and power consolidation are common in nature, nor should racial hierarchies be encouraged just because hierarchies develop naturally.

And, of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that ruinous competition should destroy lives, societies, planets, etc. just because it's natural to non-thinking species and that it's all that persons like you can wrap your head around.

 

[Slick_36]

Judging people by such ridiculous concepts as percieved pigment or lack off is racist. Assigning group identity and traits by perception of a individuals group identity without knowing the individual is racist. Can't you this will only create more racism? Telling children and young adults they are born racist is inherently wrong. Its Assigning a negative trait purely by pigment.

Doing so is a shitty idea. Confront it then.

I don't care about Trump.... at all. Your politics are a completely different topic. This is the education for the future. If you think there's white supremacists everywhere just wait 10 years of this idiocy. You're supporting the framework that's going to create some ugly ugly people.

Technically everyone is born racist, our hardwiring developed during very tough and dangerous times and we feel safe with people who look like us. Human beings are special in their ability to adapt in real time though and it's easy to learn not to be racist the same way a kid can learn to swim. But honestly what I get from this post is that you're twisting every argument to the extreme to dismiss it entirely.

 

[Anewt]

Yeah, I would wager an easy bet and say the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of curriculum pertaining to the issues aren't telling white children they're all filthy racists. Jesus. It's far more about systemic inequalities and social morese that cause obvious discriminatory practices and biases. To pretend as if these don't exist is absurd.

Almost as absurd as seeing one teacher's slides, or other anecdote, and scaling it out to the entirety of the field.

Its in a lot more schools than just this one. Its also in a lot of workplaces. Are you saying one or 50 incidents in a year aren't enough for people to build a narrative? As i said this is going to create some ugly ugly people. You're very quick to shrug it off because eh its only one teacher or one school. That would affect dozens of children and young adults and in a few years be into the hundred's. But hey it's only a few it means nothing right?

Only a couple thousand kids nationwide being taught that their pigment or lack off is a prime dictator of who they are. You know it's a stupid thing to teach but would prefer to shrug it off and attack the other side.

All injustice and faulty reasoning should be called out, not just meh their dumb. Or meh systematic injustices are the only things that matter. What do you consider a biracial student being told he will fail if he doesn't attend a racially charged class? Take " white: out of it .

 

[Anewt]

Technically everyone is born racist, our hardwiring developed during very tough and dangerous times and we feel safe with people who look like us. Human beings are special in their ability to adapt in real time though and it's easy to learn not to be racist the same way a kid can learn to swim. But honestly what I get from this post is that you're twisting every argument to the extreme to dismiss it entirely.

I would have to read the studies on everyone is born racist. Because I don't buy that sorry mate. If everyone you grow up with and play with as a child is of mixed ethnicities i truly don't believe pigment is relevant.

 

[Natural Order]

This is the most of someone who flunked our of Poli Sci 101 but is convinced it's because the professor was biased against him.

But, yes, I do think that when post-Enlightenment societies betray norms of equality, liberty, and due process, they should answer to their failures since those ideals benefit everyone. That, of course, goes for societies of all races and ideologies. Just as the Soviets shouldn't be excused for the subjugation of dissidents or humanitarian abuse of Ukrainians just because domination and power consolidation are common in nature, nor should racial hierarchies be encouraged just because hierarchies develop naturally.

And, of course, I'm not stupid enough to think that ruinous competition should destroy lives, societies, planets, etc. just because it's natural to non-thinking species and that it's all that persons like you can wrap your head around.

I've never complained once in my life about my condition, nor blamed anybody for my faults. That's the difference between you and I.

I'm aware of reality, you're afraid of it, deeply, and need to invent fantasies to make it all easier. It's why you don't like competition and abhor the notion of winning and losing, sacrifice and gain, risk and reward. I'll again point out the glaring hypocrisy of espousing philosophies that embrace nihilism whilst simultaneously championing equality and fairness.....

You can stroke it up with all the fancy pastels you need chum, we've seen and read your utopic diatribes for decades.....wailing against the reality of the human condition and of the absurdity of our existence in the cosmos. Analytical philosophy was too hard to take, you needed a New Testament.

You float on hypocritical notions of altruism and enlightenment without understanding the framework that even allowed you to ever consider such an absurd idea.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Its in a lot more schools than just this one. Its also in a lot of workplaces. Are you saying one or 50 incidents in a year aren't enough for people to build a narrative? As i said this is going to create some ugly ugly people. You're very quick to shrug it off because eh its only one teacher or one school. That would affect dozens of children and young adults and in a few years be into the hundred's. But hey it's only a few it means nothing right?

Only a couple thousand kids nationwide being taught that their pigment or lack off is a prime dictator of who they are. You know it's a stupid thing to teach but would prefer to shrug it off and attack the other side.

All injustice and faulty reasoning should be called out, not just meh their dumb. Or meh systematic injustices are the only things that matter. What do you consider a biracial student being told he will fail if he doesn't attend a racially charged class? Take " white: out of it .

I'd say if you're looking at mere anecdote, maybe all you've been doing is looking to formulate a narrative.

Race relations between blacks and whites is the crack in America's foundation, and every time it's been progressed, the right has a fascistic response, and mobilize to make sure nobody knows our history.

Maybe people should know they often have racial biases, and we have systems that discriminate towards minorities, blacks especially. Actually understanding the problem is the first step to easing it.

Or you can say a 10x wealth gap between black and white is just a problem with their culture, and do absolutely nothing while riots and civil unrest, the obvious symptom, flare up in ever-worsening fashion.

 

[ElKarlo]

Translation:

"I'm not gonna comment on it, because I know it's wrong but it goes against my political leanings. I am a mindless drone. Love me for who I am."

LOL yep. It’s being submitted to a court so it’ll probably be on record at some points. I can guess who’ll make excuses then as well.

 

[Slick_36]

I would have to read the studies on everyone is born racist. Because I don't buy that sorry mate. If everyone you grow up with and play with as a child is of mixed ethnicities i truly don't believe pigment is relevant.

I'm not saying babies are born Nazis, I'm saying people have inherent implicit bias towards people of their own race. They can easily learn to overcome that though by being around people of other races. If a kid is never around other races though, and what little they do hear is negative, they can pretty easily become explicitly racist or have some serious misconceptions.

 

[mkess101]

There are some very transparent attempts to spin this within this thread. Unsurprising, but no less absurd.

First, sure, this likely isn't curriculum that's being taught in a ton of places. Yet. But the reality is that just a few years ago this type of thing would NEVER have been allowed to be taught anywhere. That's the the way the momentum is moving, so to dismiss this as a one-off that doesn't have the chance to take hold in many more classrooms is disingenuous.

That aside, those in this thread attempting to justify it because "Well...uhh.. really they're just speaking of systemic racism and why the oppressed having prejudices don't really affect anything vs why those in power having them do..."

Here's the thing: They aren't claiming that "all racism should be condemned but here's why racism by whites is more destructive from a systemic sense". Look at the memes that the teacher put on that slide FFS. They straight up say, with no room for any sort of interpretation, that "reverse racism doesn't exist" and "the prejudices of POC don't affect the rights of white people". I mean, unless you're absolutely brain dead or actually are a racist, you clearly see how dangerous it is to be teaching this to kids. It's operating under the assumption that ONLY systemic racism is real and meaningful, and racism on a personal level doesn't matter. Not just that the two are different, but that one is real and meaningful, and the other is either nonexistent or so insignificant that it doesn't merit any attention.

To say "Racism by whites toward POC is worse than racism by POC toward whites and here's why" is one thing. Still a slippery slope and some pretty choppy waters to navigate, but at least there's SOME nuance that can be applied to make that a viable discussion. That's not what the slide says though.

 

[Grunt0331**]

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Another post that doesnt address the OP at all.

I've never complained once in my life about my condition, nor blamed anybody for my faults. That's the difference between you and I.

I'm aware of reality, you're afraid of it, deeply, and need to invent fantasies to make it all easier. It's why you don't like competition and abhor the notion of winning and losing, sacrifice and gain, risk and reward. I'll again point out the glaring hypocrisy of espousing philosophies that embrace nihilism whilst simultaneously championing equality and fairness.....

You can stroke it up with all the fancy pastels you need chum, we've seen and read your utopic diatribes for decades.....wailing against the reality of the human condition and of the absurdity of our existence in the cosmos. Analytical philosophy was too hard to take, you needed a New Testament.

You float on hypocritical notions of altruism and enlightenment without understanding the framework that even allowed you to ever consider such an absurd idea.

I really enjoy watching you dissect these useless roaches.

 

[Natural Order]

I would have to read the studies on everyone is born racist. Because I don't buy that sorry mate. If everyone you grow up with and play with as a child is of mixed ethnicities i truly don't believe pigment is relevant.

No no, he's saying that biologically we all have genetics that quantify racist tendencies....because from an evolutionary standpoint, they were mandatory.

If parents nurture those capabilities, kids will adapt accordingly.

Conversely, teaching your child to respect all life equally, unconditionally, and to not fear things you don't immediately understand goes along way to putting down tempered members of a productive and accepting society.

 

[Anewt]

I'd say if you're looking at mere anecdote, maybe all you've been doing is looking to formulate a narrative.

Race relations between blacks and whites is the crack in America's foundation, and every time it's been progressed, the right has a fascistic response, and mobilize to make sure nobody knows our history.

Maybe people should know they often have racial biases, and we have systems that discriminate towards minorities, blacks especially. Actually understanding the problem is the first step to easing it.

Or you can say a 10x wealth gap between black and white is just a problem with their culture, and do absolutely nothing while riots and civil unrest, the obvious symptom, flare up in ever-worsening fashion.

No the wealth gap in America probably has quite a bit to do with past injustice. Which doesn't make a white child complicit. Nor does it mean a black child will be born to a less wealthy family than a white child. It does make it more likely "technically " by averages.

The problem with basing perception on those averages is , would you agree there is higher wealth in the top " white " households? Yuck I hate this identity bullshit.

If so their average wealth goes up . It still has no impact on those on the bottom. But It does create a higher average.

Attaching perceptions based apon averages is terrible. The whole thing by pigments is atrocious. But if you look at 2 babies one white black and make assumptions about them purely based on their pigment that's fucked up to me.

The problem is the extreme wealth gathered in the hands of a few and the distance between the bottom and top grows tremendously. Pigment is irrelevant, especially in class and wealth.

Never going to be on board with preconceptions based purely on pigment. Sorry .


To me this is only going to create more racism.

 

[ElKarlo]

There are some very transparent attempts to spin this within this thread. Unsurprising, but no less absurd.

First, sure, this likely isn't curriculum that's being taught in a ton of places. Yet. But the reality is that just a few years ago this type of thing would NEVER have been allowed to be taught anywhere. That's the the way the momentum is moving, so to dismiss this as a one-off that doesn't have the chance to take hold in many more classrooms is disingenuous.

That aside, those in this thread attempting to justify it because "Well...uhh.. really they're just speaking of systemic racism and why the oppressed having prejudices don't really affect anything vs why those in power having them do..."

Here's the thing: They aren't claiming that "all racism should be condemned but here's why racism by whites is more destructive from a systemic sense". Look at the memes that the teacher put on that slide FFS. They straight up say, with no room for any sort of interpretation, that "reverse racism doesn't exist" and "the prejudices of POC don't affect the rights of white people". I mean, unless you're absolutely brain dead or actually are a racist, you clearly see how dangerous it is to be teaching this to kids. It's operating under the assumption that ONLY systemic racism is real and meaningful, and racism on a personal level doesn't matter. Not just that the two are different, but that one is real and meaningful, and the other is either nonexistent or so insignificant that it doesn't merit any attention.

To say "Racism by whites toward POC is worse than racism by POC toward whites and here's why" is one thing. Still a slippery slope and some pretty choppy waters to navigate, but at least there's SOME nuance that can be applied to make that a viable discussion. That's not what the slide says though.

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