Sandy Hook "truthers" vandalize memorial

[Trollgrappler]

The truthers are actually actors hired by the American government to cover up the cover up

This is true to some extent. There is a program to "muddle the message" so to speak. Take this issue for example there might be some that just have questions about how it was handled and such so these hired trolls take a very extreme stance that it never happened at all and get belligerent with victims. This tactic smears the entire group who have questions and attempts to lump them all together. It is a very effective form of cointelpro.

One of these programs was just recently leaked by Snowden
New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations'

Here are the slides from the government presentation.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

It's very controversial stuff but of course it is just lumped into all the Snowden info and gets ignored by the media for the most part.

 

[Throttlehead]

The truthers are actually actors hired by the American government to cover up the cover up

This is true to some extent. There is a program to "muddle the message" so to speak. Take this issue for example there might be some that just have questions about how it was handled and such so these hired trolls take a very extreme stance that it never happened at all and get belligerent with victims. This tactic smears the entire group who have questions and attempts to lump them all together. It is a very effective form of cointelpro.

Adding another level of crazy to justify the original crazy is a CT's dream. What questions do you have about Sandy Hook, what are you not satisfied with?

When you cast out, eventually, you have to reel back in.

 

[KILL KILL]

So it seems like there are two major conspiracy theories.

1. Sandy Hook was a hoax, no one died.

2. Sandy Hook was a govt op by the Obama administration to help enact gun control legislation. A spec op team scoped pi the school the day before. An operative went into the school and killed several children and adults. They then dumped Lanza's body at the scene and created a back story that he was a disturbed individual suffering from mental disease.

If #1 occurred, then the entire town of Newtown would have had to be in on it. The school teachers, parents, PD, EVERYONE.

If #2 occurred, the local PD, coroner, and a slew of other locals would still have to be involved.

In either scenario, it makes literally no sense. It's so illogical and ridiculous.

 

[Lead]

If #1 occurred, then the entire town of Newtown would have had to be in on it. The school teachers, parents, PD, EVERYONE.

If #2 occurred, the local PD, coroner, and a slew of other locals would still have to be involved.

In either scenario, it makes literally no sense. It's so illogical and ridiculous.

But they want to believe man. It's so enticing.

 

[Cuzcatlan]

This shit is getting out of hand, with truthers!

I work at LAX and we had a shooting a few months back, a TSA guy got killed.
I seen youtube videos claiming the guy didn't exist. The guy worked at the airport for 8 years or something. I seen him on occasions in passing. I never knew his name, but I recognize him when they put his picture on tv. The stupidity of some people.

 

[Byron Carter]

This shit is getting out of hand, with truthers!

I work at LAX and we had a shooting a few months back, a TSA guy got killed.
I seen youtube videos claiming the guy didn't exist. The guy worked at the airport for 8 years or something. I seen him on occasions in passing. I never knew his name, but I recognize him when they put his picture on tv. The stupidity of some people.

Ok, not all "Truthers" are the same. A "truther" is a label placed on anyone who disbelieves any particular story.

It's possible to, for example, not believe the official story of Benghazi, and not believe we have 100% information on that event. That does not mean you think reptillians are taking over the U.S.

 

[Bay Area]

Ok, not all "Truthers" are the same. A "truther" is a label placed on anyone who disbelieves any particular story.

It's possible to, for example, not believe the official story of Benghazi, and not believe we have 100% information on that event. That does not mean you think reptillians are taking over the U.S.

The media has twisted the meaning aroung where "truther" means "nut job"

 

[Ruprecht]

The media has twisted the meaning aroung where "truther" means "nut job"

The label was self applied wasn't it? People just add the "er".
"truther", "CTer", "Birther" etc.
...and the nut job association comes from the ideas and actions, as we see in this very thread.

 

[IDL]

The psychology of labels is pretty interesting I find.

We see it all the time as a way to assign something into a basket, in association with something else that already has preconceived notions.

It's a way people perceive things in simplistic terms. It bypasses reason that might otherwise take effort.

 

[MASShole]

The psychology of not understanding and accepting proven facts is pretty interesting I find.

 

[Byron Carter]

The psychology of not understanding and accepting proven facts is pretty interesting I find.

"Proven facts" = refusing to show the video evidence they claim to have, and expecting us to take their word at face value.

Show the video.

 

[KILL KILL]

"Proven facts" = refusing to show the video evidence they claim to have, and expecting us to take their word at face value.

Show the video.

Dude, shut up about the video. You've made so many terrible posts in this thread so far. You don't even have the basic facts correct.

- You claimed there was some guy taking pictures of the school the day prior to the shooting. You rambled on about this guy for several pages. There is absolutely NO record of any guy taking pictures the day before the shooting. You made this up.

- You claimed to have the surveillance footage taken from the school. Again, you rambled on about how there was some sort of conspiracy because it should have shown footage of Lanza walking into the school when in fact, it was footage taken by the local PD AFTER the shooting to document the scene and NOT from a surveillance camera. What's even funnier is that in the footage shown, there are NO surveillance cameras to be seen on the outside or inside the school.

- You claimed that Lanza disappeared for 3 years. Again, you rambled on about this for several pages. When in fact, he was active online under the name, Smiggles, and even called into a radio show. What's even funnier is that you are ASSUMING that no one has seen him for 3 years when in actuality, you have no verifiable information to back your claim.


EVERY piece of information you've tried to bring up has been thrown back in your face yet you refuse to stop jabbering on about it. It's incredible.

 

[Byron Carter]

Dude, shut up about the video. You've made so many terrible posts in this thread so far. You don't even have the basic facts correct.

- You claimed there was some guy taking pictures of the school the day prior to the shooting. You rambled on about this guy for several pages. There is absolutely NO record of any guy taking pictures the day before the shooting. You made this up.

- You claimed to have the surveillance footage taken from the school. Again, you rambled on about how there was some sort of conspiracy because it should have shown footage of Lanza walking into the school when in fact, it was footage taken by the local PD AFTER the shooting to document the scene and NOT from a surveillance camera. What's even funnier is that in the footage shown, there are NO surveillance cameras to be seen on the outside or inside the school.

- You claimed that Lanza disappeared for 3 years. Again, you rambled on about this for several pages. When in fact, he was active online under the name, Smiggles, and even called into a radio show. What's even funnier is that you are ASSUMING that no one has seen him for 3 years when in actuality, you have no verifiable information to back your claim.


EVERY piece of information you've tried to bring up has been thrown back in your face yet you refuse to stop jabbering on about it. It's incredible.

Because you're lying, and boring. You're a sheep.

I've linked the video multiple times. You can research that a surveillance system was installed in the school THAT YEAR.

I don't believe that was Lanza who called into a radio show.

Show me some evidence he existed. I could call a radio show pretending to be Adam Lanza right now. Doesn't mean he's alive, does it? Can you show me another recording of his voice that we can verify so we can compare?

 

[KILL KILL]

Because you're lying, and boring. You're a sheep.

I've linked the video multiple times. You can research that a surveillance system was installed in the school THAT YEAR.

I don't believe that was Lanza who called into a radio show.

Show me some evidence he existed. I could call a radio show pretending to be Adam Lanza right now. Doesn't mean he's alive, does it? Can you show me another recording of his voice that we can verify so we can compare?

straws. keep grasping at them big fella.

 

[Throttlehead]

Because you're lying, and boring. You're a sheep.

I've linked the video multiple times. You can research that a surveillance system was installed in the school THAT YEAR.

I don't believe that was Lanza who called into a radio show.

Show me some evidence he existed. I could call a radio show pretending to be Adam Lanza right now. Doesn't mean he's alive, does it? Can you show me another recording of his voice that we can verify so we can compare?

So what happened (in your mind), who killed the kids and teachers? Who killed Lanza and his mother? Who helped the whole town and law officers cover it up?

What happened according to you?

 

[HIMBOB]

It

 

[SirDiddymus]

I was thinking the other day we should start a war room group project.

Make up a totally insane claim based on nothing,

For example: Snowden stole MH370 as payment for russian protection

Then we find whatever evidence we can to support this claim and prove it was a multinational government cover up.

Byron is probably already ranting about it on CT forums

 

[Lead]

The psychology of labels is pretty interesting I find.

We see it all the time as a way to assign something into a basket, in association with something else that already has preconceived notions.

It's a way people perceive things in simplistic terms. It bypasses reason that might otherwise take effort.

Like the government or the NWO you speak of?

 

[Lead]

Because you're lying, and boring. You're a sheep.

I've linked the video multiple times. You can research that a surveillance system was installed in the school THAT YEAR.

I don't believe that was Lanza who called into a radio show.

Show me some evidence he existed. I could call a radio show pretending to be Adam Lanza right now. Doesn't mean he's alive, does it? Can you show me another recording of his voice that we can verify so we can compare?

There is no evidence he ceased to exist after high school either. We know he was alive/existed up to that point and he was anti-social. Is it hard to believe the reports are accurate and the guy spent days/weeks in his room without leaving?

 

[Byron Carter]

There is no evidence he ceased to exist after high school either. We know he was alive/existed up to that point and he was anti-social. Is it hard to believe the reports are accurate and the guy spent days/weeks in his room without leaving?

The issue is he disappeared during his highschool years. People remember him when he was a freshmen in highschool, but NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM AFTER THIS POINT.

Apparently, he went to COLLEGE at 15, and was NEVER SEEN AGAIN. There are no photographs, or evidence of any sort that he existed AFTER his freshmen year of highschool. Only the record that he had PERFECT attendance and straight A's... even though not a single person can verify he existed.