Opinion Sam Harris Vs Jordan Peterson - Who won?

[Lawblaw]

I'm actually religious and a huge Jordan Peterson fan but I gave the first debate to Sam Harris.
Still haven't decided on the 2nd and 3rd one but they were close

 

[Mcountry]

I'm actually religious and a huge Jordan Peterson fan but I gave the first debate to Sam Harris.
Still haven't decided on the 2nd and 3rd one but they were close

I'm athiest so I always side with Harris on this topic. Life would be so much easier without religion. However, as I get older/wiser...there are some things that religion just kind either stumbled on by accident or otherwise that seem to make society better if followed correctly. Topics like pro life/pro choice. It becomes so much clearer and easier to understand when you look at the situation logically/scientifically - black and white - without nuance. When you do, you find you align with what religion says about it.

Religion offers a sort of structure that people need. The problem is that we get radically tied to our own individual groups and are very aggressive towards those who think differently. The human species is very tribal. I think that will be our downfall in the end. So we need religion, but in the end it will be our destruction.

geez.

 

[Lawblaw]

Topics like pro life/pro choice. It becomes so much clearer and easier to understand when you look at the situation logically/scientifically - black and white - without nuance. When you do, you find you align with what religion says about it.

Care to explain?

 

[Mcountry]

Care to explain?

It will completely derail the thread. We can talk about it in PM if you want to deep dive the subject.

 

[Lawblaw]

It will completely derail the thread.

Lol yeah probably
Anyway I thought Sam won that debate because he has more experience in dismantling religion, not to mention he's as smart if not smarter than Jordan Peterson. I felt Jordan doesn't give clear answers while Sam is on point.

 

[forum poster]

Havn't watched but I find Harris's arguements against religion almost juvenile an narrow sighted. Matt dillihanty's debate with Peterson against religion was good.

 

[Javelina]

did they wrastle?

i'll have to bookmark to watch later

 

[Liquid Smoke]

Didn't watch lol but I scored it for JP by chin to the eye submission.

 

[luckyshot]

Who won?

Those who didn’t listen.

 

[Metusalemi]

What year is this?

 

[Mentallooser]

Listeners

 

[all caps]

I'm athiest so I always side with Harris on this topic. Life would be so much easier without religion. However, as I get older/wiser...there are some things that religion just kind either stumbled on by accident or otherwise that seem to make society better if followed correctly. Topics like pro life/pro choice. It becomes so much clearer and easier to understand when you look at the situation logically/scientifically - black and white - without nuance. When you do, you find you align with what religion says about it.

Religion offers a sort of structure that people need. The problem is that we get radically tied to our own individual groups and are very aggressive towards those who think differently. The human species is very tribal. I think that will be our downfall in the end. So we need religion, but in the end it will be our destruction.

geez.

Do you find it funny that theres an all out assault on religion (all of them) and against God himself? Kind of odd imo.

 

[Mcountry]

Do you find it funny that theres an all out assault on religion (all of them) and against God himself? Kind of odd imo.

I'm utterly confused as to how to feel about it.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Don't know if people are aware but these debates had to be recorded by ultrasound. Because Harris and Peterson are both so far up their own asses.

 

[Mcountry]

Don't know if people are aware but these debates had to be recorded by ultrasound. Because Harris and Peterson are both so far up their own asses.

Don't know if you are aware but they are both liberal/progressive...

 

[TrueBias]

It will completely derail the thread. We can talk about it in PM if you want to deep dive the subject.

Damn, that is the most respectable reply ive read in a while.

Thank you. I too dont want to read about that.

 

[Dan177]

Jordan won the decision, he clutched it with his top control, i heard he was working with gsp.

 

[jimmas99]

Harris won, Jodan is really bad when it comes to defending religion and politics.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

Wow Harris absolutely destroyed him!!! Peterson got humiliated. Wow. Just wow. That was shocking

 

[StillWasted]

Sam Harris modern day
Yemelyan Yaroslavsky


How long until they kill 10s of millions of Christians with their Jewish Atheist ideology huh?


Needs to be said.

Why so offended by stating a well documented fact? does it go against your Jewish victimhood narrative that far greater Holocausts were not of Jews, but gentile.