Ryan Bader vs Gegard Mousasi superfight

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Bader would lay on him like he did Mitrione. I was surprised he stood with Fedor.

He didn't really stand with Fedor any more then matt difference is matt took a punch without being dropped. Bader sets up his takedowns with his punches first.

 

[Franklin U.]

I've been thinking about potential challengers for Ryan Bader in Bellator after his recent win. A name that immediately came to mind was Gegard Mousasi.
Gegard already competed at HW and LHW, assuming he fairs well against the Bellator MW challengers, I think moving up to LHW and challenging Bader would be the biggest fight Bellator could make.
One could argue Mousasi is the best MW on the planet right now.
Bader winning both the LHW and HW Bellator belts makes it hard to argue he is not amongst the best in his divisions right now.
What do you guys think about this matchup?
Could Gegard Mousasi be a three weight division champion?
I think this it would be the biggest fight in Bellator history.

Been saying this for awhile- cause of lack of top tier heavyweights in Bellator, Gegard could be favored over any fighter on Bellator roster which automatically makes your claim valid. Bader would be only fight where opening betting line would be tight. His evolution and size would make this fight in the pk'em area and Gegard the better and complete fighter .Bader would have to smother Gegard to get decision but today's mousasi will give Bader his back and neck (in getting up)....and Ryan ain't choking him out ( bjj Chris couldn't do it so Ryan's not but Bader is massive).
Me money on the Mousasi beast.

Minakov is only wild card in all of this (only one I forgot about)

 

[Franklin U.]

Only amongst idiots. 85, 05 and heavyweight are not their premier divisions. Everyone knows that. If Gegard gets another belt all it tells us is he's a bad motherfucker, and we already knew that.

AMEN to that, brother

 

[Franklin U.]

Machida Could be the first 3 division champ. Has wins over all those title holders...

Lol, today he's a 5-1 underdog to Mousasi and a 4-1 underdog to Bader.
Btw, it's 2019.
Why does sherdog lack so much common sense.... it's almost "literally " unbelievable .

 

[ferrisjso]

Bader isn't some god. Machida knocked him out.

Machida's one of the best ever. He got brutally finished by Jones and people still wanted to see a second fight.

 

[Franklin U.]

Mousasi sucks against wrestlers.

Hmmm, since mo wake up call - dominated OSP, prison raped Munoz and made the larger weidman quit while getting right the fuck up on every td from the larger elite wrestler weidman.
Elite fighters evolve and get better.
Again, with the common sense thing.

 

[Franklin U.]

Bader is better than moose everywhere. I know people like to make out that Moose is some sort of MW Goat even though he's never won a belt in the big leagues and always gets smashed by the top fighters, but Bader would flog him.

Bader is better than moose everywhere -- LMFAO . What? One of the most ignorant posts ever in history of sherdog .
What ????
Bader is bigger and a better wrestler. Mousasi is better everywhere else. People come on here and talk out of there ass and it's sad.

 

[Ozymandias]

Mousasi has never won the big fights

Rory wasn't a big fight?

 

[Kertol]

Bader beats him down

 

[dog y]

I would love to see them at HW.
Fuck meaningless weight cutting.
I have been calling for LHW to disappear. All who cant make 185 must fight at 186+. No cap.

 

[John makfresshi]

Rory wasn't a big fight?

No, he is a ww who left the UFC after going on a losing streak. He was gifted a decision against Lima in his previous fight and was changed forever, in the greatest ww fight of all time, but their is a reason they are both in bellator and neither ever held UFC gold. Mousasi lost 3 number 1 contender chances, and Rory can at least say he made it to a title fight

 

[Steven Ellis]

Ryan would just lay on him till he got the decision but what about bader vs dc bellator vs ufc

 

[mallen7272]

Mousasi sucks against wrestlers.

I hope this is sarcasm because he has only lost to 1 wrestler

Mousasi is a top tier grappler.

 

[xhaydenx]

Bader is better than moose everywhere -- LMFAO . What? One of the most ignorant posts ever in history of sherdog .
What ????
Bader is bigger and a better wrestler. Mousasi is better everywhere else. People come on here and talk out of there ass and it's sad.

I sorta followed this post up a bit later on where I wasn't as hard on the Moose, but most of my point still stands, I reckon.

Moose had some nice wins, but he never broke into the elite in the UFC, though a lot of this wasn't his fault. He didn't start with a high ranking and no one above wanted to risk their spot against him.

Bader would outstrike Moose. Maybe not because he's some superior striker, but because Moose would be too afraid of the takedown to strike well. He was afraid of it against Jacare, who isn't the greatest striker, and got outstruck pretty easily.

Bader's pure striking skills have looked pretty damn good recently as well. He'd have reach, power, and some pretty good footwork against Moose.

 

[CDF47]

It's the fight to make at 205.

 

[Franklin U.]

No, he is a ww who left the UFC after going on a losing streak. He was gifted a decision against Lima in his previous fight and was changed forever, in the greatest ww fight of all time, but their is a reason they are both in bellator and neither ever held UFC gold. Mousasi lost 3 number 1 contender chances, and Rory can at least say he made it to a title fight

Lol- no.Mousasi suffered a couple of early setbacks in UFC tenure (just like rda, stipe, t-wood just to name a few) ... was 12- 3 under zuffa banner and LEFT ON A 5FIGHT stoppage streak. The Weidman ko [ WIN] was his most important cause it was his last fight on contract. They did try to put to together title fight with Bisping and Michael declined- " Bisping Mousasi is bad for business " .." I'm the champ and I call the shots ". They didn't want to pay over 90 day negotiation period and then started back pedaling when Coker came in on day 91.
Gegard hasn't lost a fight in 4 and a half years.Throw fact that loss was complete fluke (he dominated that fight and rematch outside 13 seconds of a tko) then we can take it back another year.
I don't want to sound this way but he even had legitimate excuses for the 2 early losses in tenure but I won't go there.

Mousasi not only belongs in UFC but "probably " be champ today but he made his choice - nothing he or I can do about that.

 

[Franklin U.]

I sorta followed this post up a bit later on where I wasn't as hard on the Moose, but most of my point still stands, I reckon.

Moose had some nice wins, but he never broke into the elite in the UFC, though a lot of this wasn't his fault. He didn't start with a high ranking and no one above wanted to risk their spot against him.

Bader would outstrike Moose. Maybe not because he's some superior striker, but because Moose would be too afraid of the takedown to strike well. He was afraid of it against Jacare, who isn't the greatest striker, and got outstruck pretty easily.

Bader's pure striking skills have looked pretty damn good recently as well. He'd have reach, power, and some pretty good footwork against Moose.

First off , we definitely have different opinions of "elite" (or and I apologize but you're a bit out there). Mousasi is currently ranked #3 and has been considered on the elite ladder for most of career. Bader is the one we can question if elite (besides now he's champ champ which should make him "elite " and I believe he's finally reached that level through evolving the past few years).

Don't compare or reference fights years ago (silly) and don't compare Bader and jacare. Two different types of fighters. Yes, Mousasi was fighting on heels against " the much bigger [thicker , mousasi taller]jacare at the time.... eye wink " and was afraid of td more because of the bjj than the wrestling. Big difference and we ultimately saw why BACK THEN ( as mousasi would be healthy favorite over souza today). I would also like to see this " easily outstruck thing "and numbers to go along with it. Mousasi is a superior striker to Bader. This doesn't mean Ryan couldn't catch him but let's make no mistake about it, if true superfight came to fruition ,the larger Bader would be looking to take him down .The question would be , can he keep him down. Mousasi no stranger to 205 and has been elite there as well as hold titles. If the in prime and evolved Mousasi had no problems giving the larger bjj ace weidman his back and neck while getting up then he certainly has little to worry about with Ryan (of course , in getting up Bader could land something hard but I have faith in gegards titanium chin).
Youll see when opening betting lines come out (if fight happens). You might be a bit surprised (again, it'll be tight- Mousasi 33 in prime and better complete fighter but Baders wrestling and size will offset alot. Ryan 35 but he's an in prime 35 ).

 

[frandie2b]

Mousasi would beat Bader.

 

[John makfresshi]

Lol- no.Mousasi suffered a couple of early setbacks in UFC tenure (just like rda, stipe, t-wood just to name a few) ... was 12- 3 under zuffa banner and LEFT ON A 5FIGHT stoppage streak. The Weidman ko [ WIN] was his most important cause it was his last fight on contract. They did try to put to together title fight with Bisping and Michael declined- " Bisping Mousasi is bad for business " .." I'm the champ and I call the shots ". They didn't want to pay over 90 day negotiation period and then started back pedaling when Coker came in on day 91.
Gegard hasn't lost a fight in 4 and a half years.Throw fact that loss was complete fluke (he dominated that fight and rematch outside 13 seconds of a tko) then we can take it back another year.
I don't want to sound this way but he even had legitimate excuses for the 2 early losses in tenure but I won't go there.

Mousasi not only belongs in UFC but "probably " be champ today but he made his choice - nothing he or I can do about that.

Lol-No. He lost to the Dragon and it wasn't very competitive, Hall was attempting to knock him out with a kick..... That kick connected and stunned him to get flying kneed. That's not a fluke. Submitted by the 2nd best grappler at 85.(best pure jitz guy maybe on the roster). He was lucky to avoid Yoel for very obvious reasons. Luke probably has his way with him too. And he got a gift against storm! He isn't top 1-3. At best he is 6?? Maybe 5. Convince me I'm wrong guy

 

[basedgodfedor]

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