International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

[Blayt7hh]

Who knows who's responsible. But things are going to get worse I guess

I do love this though. They’ve been shelling Ukrainian cities relentlessly for most of the year, but Kyiv really crossed the line with this one car bombing! Even if Kyiv did it(99% chance they didn’t), I think it’s fair play lol.

 

[SandisLL]

I do love this though. They’ve been shelling Ukrainian cities relentlessly for most of the year, but Kyiv really crossed the line with this one car bombing! Even if Kyiv did it(99% chance they didn’t), I think it’s fair play lol.

Kiev can't control all pro ukr or anti Kremlin oriented ppl in world.
The role of Ukr gubbermint regards Zelensky and even their parliament is oversetimated idiots hope.
If someone is thinking that Kiev does have control over xxx xxx muslims and xxx xxx ppl with ukr blood living in Moscow...nope.
And sorry for reality : in the world are more ppl with different passports and ukr blood + only idiots might hope that f.e ukr living in us or russia gaves f*** sense about rada or zelensky....
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Russians just are starting to pay and Zelensky is lesser worth here than toilet paper...
They had stated that ukrainians aren't nationality and aren't country and deUkrainization should be done...
They did this in aporowed by Kremlin media RIA ....in russian and had promised to work hard to achieve goal even if it will take 50 years...
Later this stuff had been deleted but internet remembers everything and this was fachists worth statement...

 

[SandisLL]

How this payment is just started to begin will be reality more and more.
I think russians might not wonder why for example they had failed technicals despite some Ivan in U.S or U.K had made decisions what should be asked and are they suitable for work or no.
Ppl with ukr blood in world are more than number of ppl in ukr...if we include 1/2 ukr...
Ppl hating Kremlin...this number ia higher than number of russians in all world...

Deserved btw...
Terrorist country....

 

[Anewt]

I do love this though. They’ve been shelling Ukrainian cities relentlessly for most of the year, but Kyiv really crossed the line with this one car bombing! Even if Kyiv did it(99% chance they didn’t), I think it’s fair play lol.

I don't think killing journalists is a fair play for me. But the rest of your post I agree with100%

We could very well be saying it was a fair play by Russia to target the daughter of someone who was pushing for more war and violence then the other way around. Who knows.

 

[SandisLL]

Anwet is russian origin guy and supporting Kremlin.
For Russia since march isn't problem to shell empty abadoned churches and museums.
Mosque, sinagoga and even fields with wheat...

So people? Nothing wrong for them my russian friend.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I don't think killing journalists is a fair play for me. But the rest of your post I agree with100%

We could very well be saying it was a fair play by Russia to target the daughter of someone who was pushing for more war and violence then the other way around. Who knows.

She clearly wasn’t the intended target of it if it was the Ukrainians, as she is of no strategic value. Her father however is a high value target.

My opinion is that this wasn’t even the Ukrainians. It’s hard to believe they could get that deep into Russia and set this up on a guy that is likely swarming with security. I think it’s more likely that one of his political rivals or some faction that wants the war to end tried to assassinate him.

Either way, you’re going to be hard pressed to get sympathy when god knows how many thousands of Ukrainian citizens have been killed. That’s one dead Russian civilian compared to what’s happened to the Ukrainians. The righteous indignation over this is kinda ludicrous.

 

[Anewt]

She clearly wasn’t the intended target of it was the Ukrainians, as she is of no strategic value. Her father however is a high value target.

My opinion is that this wasn’t even the Ukrainians. It’s hard to believe they could get that deep into Russia and set this up on a guy that is likely swarming with security. I think it’s more likely that one of his political rivals or some faction that wants the war to end tried to assassinate him.

Either way, you’re going to be hard pressed to get sympathy when god knows how many thousands of Ukrainian citizens have been killed. That’s one dead Russian civilian compared to what’s happened to the Ukrainians. The righteous indignation over this is kinda ludicrous.

That's the truth who knows who did it. I'm just not going to condone it shrug. Regardless who did it.

And yes what Ukranians have been suffering is thousands apon thousands times worse. Doubt you'll find any arguments on that.

 

[Blayt7hh]

That's the truth who knows who did it. I'm just not going to condone it shrug. Regardless who did it.

And yes what Ukranians have been suffering is thousands apon thousands times worse. Doubt you'll find any arguments on that.

I’m not condoning .. in the article you posted it said that Moscow swears to strike the Ukraine for this injustice. Surely you can see the irony in that.

 

[SandisLL]

If we bear in mind what Russia is doing...they just each day more and more are creating hate, nothing more.

Only just in 1 report had been confirmed that they had shelled...2 empty mosques, 2 empty sinagogas and 3 empty museums.
Empty here means that there weren't ppl inside when these buildings had been shelled...nor civies nor military ppl...
No wonder cos these didn't had living rooms or shelters or like this...
Satan is doing his Satan's job...

 

[Anewt]

I’m not condoning .. in the article you posted it said that Moscow swears to strike the Ukraine for this injustice. Surely you can see the irony in that.

Oh 100% . It's a bunch of nonsense the reaction to it. ( from pro Russians im assuming ) Some of the calls for retaliation seem to have increased. ( not based on anything other than the few comments I could read n translate )

Also how gleeful some responses are . Shows a bit how dehumanised Russians have become. Feels like it's going to ramp up imo

 

[SandisLL]

Abot what stuff is Dexters like claims about hospitals shelling justification too were ridiculous.
In civil defense is taught that hospital's upper floors are vulnerable targets for enemy like ...pavian ( Russia )....
+ Russia had shelled abadoned empty schools buildings...
While excuses are laughable: casual USSR school built in 1970 ies and later doesn't have shelter...and if wasn't projected with dormitory ....doesn't have even bedrooms...
Kinder garden's buildidings >90% cases doesn't have shelters for case of wartime....

While vuala...there xxxxxxxxxxxx enemies had been etc BS...

Factories yeah...at least more important factories in USSR built in period since 1945 till 1991 th had....shelters....

 

[Cole train]

Anyone know a somewhat accurate # of how many Russian troops have been killed so far? I googled it but the internet is all over the fucking place, as usual.

Theres none

 

[hitcher]

She clearly wasn’t the intended target of it if it was the Ukrainians, as she is of no strategic value. Her father however is a high value target.

My opinion is that this wasn’t even the Ukrainians. It’s hard to believe they could get that deep into Russia and set this up on a guy that is likely swarming with security. I think it’s more likely that one of his political rivals or some faction that wants the war to end tried to assassinate him.

Either way, you’re going to be hard pressed to get sympathy when god knows how many thousands of Ukrainian citizens have been killed. That’s one dead Russian civilian compared to what’s happened to the Ukrainians. The righteous indignation over this is kinda ludicrous.

Except thousands of Russians died due to Ukraines shelling of the Donbass during 2014-2022. So that chick being killed to me is not worse than what’s happened to Civilians (including Ukrainian ones) before and after that. Regardless of whether she is a journalist.

 

[lsa]

I do love this though. They’ve been shelling Ukrainian cities relentlessly for most of the year, but Kyiv really crossed the line with this one car bombing! Even if Kyiv did it(99% chance they didn’t), I think it’s fair play lol.

Everything points to they where aiming for her father.
He was supposed to be in that car, but switched last minute.
Also some Russian (former member of the Duma) claim its done by a new Russian group called NRA.

 

[SandisLL]

No one actually even care about this.
DNPR and DPR aren't counted as Russia's military.
Putin and Lavrov multuple times had comfirmed that they aren't Russia's forces at all. Especialy when shit with POWs or evacuation corridors had happened multiple times.
Wagner AFAIK too isn't counted as Russia's military...

De iure they count only active conscripts and pros enlisted in Russia's military! Plus this number had not been reported since april and approx 2 month ago Kremlin officially banned to disclose these numbers....

There is also nuance that OMOH isn't under MOD....it is under Ministry of internal affairs...
So in official MOD's list these figures doesn't appear....they are in MIAF list...IF they had used also them.

IMHO nor Ukr nor Russia really bothers to count bodies with vigor.
Technique like tank, hotwizers, choppers, airplanes and launchers, MRLS and so on most likely is more interesting for them....and more scary...
1000 or 10000 or 20000 or 30000 in this according to globes overpopulated world....doesn't matter much and if more....then later umemployment % will be lower.
Sorry, world is damn brutal and calculating....machine....with nice empty talks.

 

[SandisLL]

Except thousands of Russians died due to Ukraines shelling of the Donbass during 2014-2022. So that chick being killed to me is not worse than what’s happened to Civilians (including Ukrainian ones) before and after that. Regardless of whether she is a journalist.

These are your russian's excuses and all you post here is laughable Kremlin's advocates work here..
.
Russia had denied U.N mission and please piss off with you russian propaganda here....

Russia even today refused just to remove troops from just Zapprozia NPP territory.
So my russian friend....piss off ....

 

[Oedad]

Anyone know a somewhat accurate # of how many Russian troops have been killed so far? I googled it but the internet is all over the fucking place, as usual.

80,000 according to the Department of Defense, and we all know American Intelligence is infallible and never lies. (Never mind that number is higher than the total professional component of the Russian ground forces and up 3 times the number of casualties as the total number of troops Russia had committed in Feb if u consider a 3-1 ratio of dead to wounded as standard)

In reality we will not get a realistic number on casualties of this war for many years after the fact, and will probably never get an accurate estimate of Ukrainian casualties for political purposes.

All we really know for sure 90% of the loses inflicted by both sides are a result of artillery exchanges (from data gathered in similar conflicts over the last 70 years) and Russia expends between 15 and 20 shells/rockets for every 1 the Ukrainians do.

 

[hitcher]

These are your russian's excuses and all you post here is laughable Kremlin's advocates work here..
.
Russia had denied U.N mission and please piss off with you russian propaganda here....

Russia even today refused just to remove troops from just Zapprozia NPP territory.
So my russian friend....piss off ....

Of course my little handicapped polish sausage. Go ahead and write 5 more unintelligible posts that nobody cares about.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

80,000 according to the Department of Defense, and we all know American Intelligence is infallible and never lies. (Never mind that number is higher than the total professional component of the Russian ground forces and up 3 times the number of casualties as the total number of troops Russia had committed in Feb if u consider a 3-1 ratio of dead to wounded as standard)

In reality we will not get a realistic number on casualties of this war for many years after the fact, and will probably never get an accurate estimate of Ukrainian casualties for political purposes.

All we really know for sure 90% of the loses inflicted by both sides are a result of artillery exchanges (from data gathered in similar conflicts over the last 70 years) and Russia expends between 15 and 20 shells/rockets for every 1 the Ukrainians do.

these numbers are comical.

 

[Cole train]

these numbers are comical.

Yeah does not seem logical at all

Rus had about 200k troops there at start so you saying potentially every 4th guy has been killed.

(Number might be 200k to 300k due to volunteers now)