International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

[Anewt]

Turns out local ukrainian refugees are as petty as we are.

Apparently a refugee that works as a hairdresser shaved a letter Z on the little russian homies head.

Maybe this might be slander and they shaved it in themselves to stir shit up, IDK.

Who takes before and after vids of haircuts like this, and films how their broken phone is fixed right across the barbershop, unless it's on purpose for some bullshit.

Buuuuut, knowing the tense relations between the people, might be true too. But don't take your frustrations out on a child, ffs

That's messed up if it's true...
Its also messed up if its fake....

Whatta world

 

[PEB]

Turns out local ukrainian refugees are as petty as we are.

Apparently a refugee that works as a hairdresser shaved a letter Z on the little russian homies head.

Maybe this might be slander and they shaved it in themselves to stir shit up, IDK.

Who takes before and after vids of haircuts like this, and films how their broken phone is fixed right across the barbershop, unless it's on purpose for some bullshit.

Buuuuut, knowing the tense relations between the people, might be true too. But don't take your frustrations out on a child, ffs

I don't know could be but seems a little questionable nothing against you but if there is similar instances but it's hard to tell. There is tons of questionable things going online you need to question. They used to call it the fog of war but now it's called "hearts and minds" to win over.

 

[PEB]

"

• Ukraine has exported one million tonnes of agricultural products from its Black Sea ports under the terms of a grain deal brokered by Turkey and the United Nations, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.
• The situation at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant remains very risky and dangerous, Zelenskyy said."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...ive-news-kyiv-says-1m-tonnes-of-food-exported

 

[Anewt]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraine-labour-law-wrecks-workers-rights/

On 17 August, Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyi ratified law 5371, which removes rights for workers at small and medium-sized companies. It will be effective for as long as the country is under martial law – a qualification added at the last minute, under pressure from trade unions.

Under the new law, people who work for firms with up to 250 employees will now be covered by contracts they negotiate as individuals with their bosses, rather than the national labour code.

In practice, this means that around 70% of workers in Ukraine have been stripped of many labour protections. Collective agreements negotiated by unions – over salary or holidays, for instance – no longer apply. The law also removes the legal authority of trade unions to veto workplace dismissals.

The Ukrainian government has claimed it is trying to alleviate the difficulties faced by companies in wartime. However, it first tried to introduce the new law in 2021.

Ukraine’s ruling Servant of the People party argued that “the extreme over-regulation of employment contradicts the principles of market self-regulation [and] modern personnel management.”

20 July

Zero-hours contracts set to be legalised and 70% of workforce exempted from workplace protections
The policy is opposed by Ukraine’s Federation of Trade Unions and has been criticised by a joint European Union-International Labour Organisation project. Some of its critics argue that the government is using Russia’s invasion as an excuse to push for deregulation and the stripping back of social support.

In July, Nataliia Lomonosova of Ukrainian think tank Cedos told openDemocracy that these were long-term policy goals of Zelenskyi’s government, likely aimed at attracting foreign investment.

Law 5371 is not an isolated measure. In July, two other laws were passed: one allows employers to stop paying workers who have been called up to fight, while the other legalises zero-hours contracts. The latter will remain in place even when martial law is lifted.



Wow.

 

[ferrisjso]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/ukraine-labour-law-wrecks-workers-rights/

On 17 August, Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyi ratified law 5371, which removes rights for workers at small and medium-sized companies. It will be effective for as long as the country is under martial law – a qualification added at the last minute, under pressure from trade unions.

Under the new law, people who work for firms with up to 250 employees will now be covered by contracts they negotiate as individuals with their bosses, rather than the national labour code.

In practice, this means that around 70% of workers in Ukraine have been stripped of many labour protections. Collective agreements negotiated by unions – over salary or holidays, for instance – no longer apply. The law also removes the legal authority of trade unions to veto workplace dismissals.

The Ukrainian government has claimed it is trying to alleviate the difficulties faced by companies in wartime. However, it first tried to introduce the new law in 2021.

Ukraine’s ruling Servant of the People party argued that “the extreme over-regulation of employment contradicts the principles of market self-regulation [and] modern personnel management.”

20 July

Zero-hours contracts set to be legalised and 70% of workforce exempted from workplace protections
The policy is opposed by Ukraine’s Federation of Trade Unions and has been criticised by a joint European Union-International Labour Organisation project. Some of its critics argue that the government is using Russia’s invasion as an excuse to push for deregulation and the stripping back of social support.

In July, Nataliia Lomonosova of Ukrainian think tank Cedos told openDemocracy that these were long-term policy goals of Zelenskyi’s government, likely aimed at attracting foreign investment.

Law 5371 is not an isolated measure. In July, two other laws were passed: one allows employers to stop paying workers who have been called up to fight, while the other legalises zero-hours contracts. The latter will remain in place even when martial law is lifted.



Wow.

I stand with these Ukranians as well as the Ukranian socialists whose political rights have been trampled.

 

[PEB]

 

[Andy Capp]

Color me shocked "not really" it looking more an more like Putin ordered a hit on the guy hit his daughter. He advised Putin into the sh#t show Ukraine war he's apparently ill now more shocked. Not really.

Having just watched the first few minutes of that I feel like this guy must have read my posts ITT, to wit,
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/169047363/
"I lean heavily in favor of it being Russian on Russian crime..."

https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/169043424/

...his being known in the West only does not mean he is the only one such known to the West,
but it does mean there are surely other targets available to a foreign entity and internally,
so his selection as a target (for whatever reason--if I had to venture a guess, I'd say he/they were saying the quiet part far too loudly for some tastes, tapping the fish tank, if you will) appears to have been permitted only because it wouldn't raise too much of a stink...

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Turns out local ukrainian refugees are as petty as we are.

Apparently a refugee that works as a hairdresser shaved a letter Z on the little russian homies head.

Maybe this might be slander and they shaved it in themselves to stir shit up, IDK.

Who takes before and after vids of haircuts like this, and films how their broken phone is fixed right across the barbershop, unless it's on purpose for some bullshit.

Buuuuut, knowing the tense relations between the people, might be true too. But don't take your frustrations out on a child, ffs

disgusting.

 

[Rholk]

Some stuff (also) relating to the Kherson offensive, doesn't look like they intend to storm it
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/...re-setting-stage-rough-russian-winter/376360/

Ukraine’s Strikes Are Setting the Stage for a Rough Russian Winter
Kyiv seems to be setting up a long play for territory west of the Dnieper River.

Many have speculated that recent strikes on Russian bases in Crimea are the start of a much-anticipated Ukrainian counter-offensive aimed at regaining territory lost since the February invasion. But experts say the attacks are more likely a bid to prevent Russian forces from resupplying or further advancing.

A series of Aug. 9 explosions at Saki Air Base and Aug. 20 strikes on the Russian Navy’s Sevastopol homeport seemed to mark a new phase of the conflict as Russian forces re-oriented to focus on the Donbas and southern Ukraine. “Ukraine’s long-awaited southern counteroffensive begins with a bang in Crimea,” Politico said.

But one military analyst specializing in Eastern Europe said Ukraine’s aims were likely more modest.

“They're not trying to take out the Black Sea Fleet,” said the analyst, who wished to remain anonymous citing continuing work with the U.S. government. “They're trying to take out the air support that's operating out of Crimea to support the Russian southern front. And they are trying to take out the main rail links from Crimea into Kherson,” a Ukranian city currently under Russian control.

Even the fighting around Kherson doesn’t necessarily herald an imminent push into the city, the analyst said. “There doesn't look to be any preparations there for an offensive and there isn't substantial troop movement there. They're trying to isolate Russian forces in Kherson’s upper region. And the reason they're striking these areas is because there are three main bases from which Russia is providing air support from Crimea. And they're trying to degrade the ability of these bases. None of this is anything that Russia can't recover from. But it'd be a real problem in the coming weeks.”

Former Navy SEAL Charles Pfarrer said that the current efforts appeared to be aimed at softening and isolating the Russian forces in Kherson to force Russian commanders into a difficult position: attempt to hold territory with little hope for relief or reinforcement or plot an exit before it’s too late.



“Ukraine has managed to cut every river crossing between Kherson and Nova Kakhovka. That is constricting the lines of communication and supply to those north bank forces,” Pfarrer said.

The United States continues to supply Ukraine with ammo—mostly bullets and unguided mortar rounds, but some laser-guided munitions that are helping Ukraine’s outnumbered artillery fire for greater effect.

Pfarrer said Ukraine’s targets hint at its strategy: “They're striking ammunition depots; they're striking fuel; they're striking important supplies. If you have a soldier in the field and he doesn't have any ammunition and he doesn't have any food he's not a soldier. He's a hobo.”

That suggests that Ukraine is taking a patient approach and looking to make life much more difficult for Russian forces, especially once the weather turns cold.

“Everything they've done to exacerbate the logistical conditions now in the summer, those are going to be 10 times worse for those Russian soldiers in the winter. They're not just going to be thirsty. They're going to be cold and hungry,” said Pfarrer.

One former senior State Department official, in regular contact with Ukrainian senior military leadership, agreed that Ukraine’s current strategy is targeted strikes to soften Russia’s ability to reinforce and resupply its units in the south.

“I think what the Ukrainians have in mind is interrupting Russia's ability to sustain its...course. They're taking out ammunition, fuel, logistics, bridges, rail lines...going after Sevastopol a little bit.”

In particular, the former official said, the recapture of Snake Island in June “interferes with Russia's ability to sustain its military offensives” by boosting Ukraine’s control of the sea route between Odesa and Romania, making resupply by sea for Russian forces more difficult.

The former official agreed with Pfarrer that the most important thing for the Ukranians now is making life for the Russian forces in and around Kherson as difficult as possible in the months ahead.

“They want to basically starve them out as much as they can, ammunition-wise, fuel-wise... and they want to do that before the winter,” the official said. “The second part is to cut the landline of communications that runs from Russia through Donbass, Maripol, and Zaporizhia province and then Kherson province.”

Ultimately, if the Ukranians can regain control of territory west of the Dnieper River by year’s end, they will be in a good position to play for more, he said.

Another key, short-term objective, the official agreed, is to render Crimea of no military use for the Russian forces.

If those efforts are successful, Pfarrer said, the Ukranians can attempt more ambitious targeting goals, such as taking out Russian command and control, similar to the recent attack on a command post in Kherson.

“At the dawn of this offensive we're gonna see mass and coordinated strikes against Russian headquarters elements to dig at command and control. We're going to see strikes on transportation infrastructure, channelization to cut off the movement of possible reinforcements to the point of attack. And, you know, most importantly, you're going to see them chipping away at logistics,” he said.

The Ukraininas face two distinct pressures: supplies and time. On the first point, Pfarrer and the former State official said Ukraine needs more long-range rockets, like the U.S. Army’s MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, rockets, which can be fired out of the HIMARS that the Ukranians already have.

The Ukrainians have been requesting ATACMS since February, a senior Ukrainian defense official told Defense One. The official did not say whether Washington has provided any; they are not on the public list that the Pentagon supplies of the arms it is giving.

But speaking on the Geopolitics Decanted podcast on Aug. 3, Ukrainian Army Col. Sergii Grabkyi, said Russian air defenses are quite effective against long-range rockets. And Ukraine has been able to hit Crimean targets without them. At least one of their recent Crimea strikes appears to have used a large suicide drone purchased off of Alibaba for about $8,000.

But if the Ukranians want to make a real play for command headquarters they will need a lot more firepower, said the former State official.

“What I was told about the existing artillery shells we're giving them is that, yes, they are doing pretty well at hitting ammunition depots and fuel supplies. But when it comes to hitting Russian command posts, [those] are defended with a type of air defense system that can take out the missiles. So the only way to take out the command post is to overwhelm the air defense system” with a lot more rockets, he said.

The other pressure Ukraine is facing is time. While the onset of winter may make life difficult for Russian soldiers in country, European and U.S. politicians may want to see some results from the aid they have been providing before the first snow falls. The analyst said that the real risk Ukraine faces is not an offensive that fails militarily but one that doesn’t sufficiently impress Western audiences. “People looking at it may assume that that's the best Ukraine can do with Western equipment and ammunition” so why give them more? the official said.

Russia, too, is adding to the pressure through a series of soon-to-be-held referendums to claim stolen territory as Russian. While such efforts don’t persuade the international community or the Ukranians they do add a complicating factor. Said the analyst: “It's significant driver because there was strong concern that if Russia consolidates political control over these regions then Ukraine's not getting them back.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

For perspective

 

[Rholk]

For perspective

My god you got cliffs? I got till around 2:30,
It's like he's doing his best to sound as much as Apu from the Simpsons as he possibly can

 

[Strychnine]

Man! That tiny heli-drone is WICKED! It's so tiny and can be placed so high enough that you can't hear it. Man! Can you imagine having that over your position at night?

The next thing you know...

It's raining artillery...

 

[Blayt7hh]

Y'all mfers bitching about pre 1992 stuff realize that's half the US carriers. The current class of US destroyers the Burkes started in 1991.

Y'all acting as if 1991 is the stone age for military tech it really isn't.

I know much less about tanks tho maybe I'ma wrong.

Some other ones to add from the Army: the Apache helicopter entered service in the mid 80s. It was set to be replaced at one point by the now infamously canceled Comanche helicopter.

The A10 warthog has been around since 77 and is still the best friend to ground troops.

Hummers I think we’re introduced in the 80s.

the Armored personnel carriers are new with strykers and MATVs being introduced during the war on terror. Body armor is constantly going through new and better generations. And you’ve probably heard, new rifles and light machine guns have just been contracted to replace the m4 and the SAW.

So a lot of the big stuff has gone unchanged for decades now and the small arms conflict stuff has undergone a lot more revisions. This is probably a reflection of the kind of conflicts the US has been in in recent years.

Also though things like the abrams and the Apache were far ahead of their time. There’s still no equal to the Abrams that is fielded in any significant numbers. Our money is also best spent on our navy and air force since they ensure that none of our enemies are a threat to us domestically

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

My god you got cliffs? I got till around 2:30,
It's like he's doing his best to sound as much as Apu from the Simpsons as he possibly can

Use your good ear!

 

[Andy Capp]

Our government might actually discuss doing all expenses paid repatriations to those who voluntarily want to go to Russia, because people are collecting signatures about this right now.

If they don't like what we're doing here, just let it be known, and we'll buy you a ticket to the motherland, if life is so much better there.

Let's see how much traction this gets.



https://bnn-news.com/signatures-col...f-disloyal-latvian-residents-to-russia-237461

Indeed, please do update us if you get any info on uptake.

 

[lsa]

Russia is pulling all its fighter jets out of Crimea after a series of strikes on its military outposts there, secret NATO report says
https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...&utm_source=reddit.com.&utm_source=reddit.com

 

[Rod1]

There’s still no equal to the Abrams that is fielded in any significant numbers.

Merkava

 

[SandisLL]

Turns out local ukrainian refugees are as petty as we are.

Apparently a refugee woman that works as a hairdresser shaved a letter Z on the little russian homies head.

Maybe this might be slander and someone from the kids family shaved it in themselves to stir shit up, and get clicks about the bad Ukrainians, IDK.

Who takes conveinient before and after vids of haircuts like this, and films how their broken phone is fixed at a repair shop which is right across the barbershop, unless it's on purpose for some bullshit.

Buuuuut, knowing the tense relations between the people, might be true too. But don't take your frustrations out on a child, ffs

Fake bullshit......looks like casual kremlin's hybrid war fighter's post....

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While there are reasons why vatniks aren't allowed to do their demonstrations etc bullshit.
Riga and it's metro area had approx 36000 ukr before war...
With different passports and from temporary workers and students or bussiness ppl till local citizens and even other EU countries citizens...
Basically ppl who listed their nationality as ukr...
+ this number doesn't include short term workers ( not longer than 3 months!!!! )....
After war had started add here more than 30000 refugees....

So....

BTW if Ukr will go 404...
Will get more refugees.....
+ then will be also lot of males....unlike now, when refugees mainly are kids, females and ppl older than 60....

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Then really last thing you will worry about will be dream stories for fun in internet....

 

[SandisLL]

Ukr temp short term workers in Riga usually are sub contractors companies specialists hired for said phase of work....construction industry, shipyard...
While even such kind of germans does exist too...f.e welding QA specs etc...
Like also asiats working in offices.....
And now a bit interesting thing are hybrids with LV citizenship working in offices....like african or asian 1/2 ...and local 1/2 ....cos parents bloodline...
+ immigrants for long term....

 

[7even]

Reports are there about the Ukrainian Airforce getting the Saab Gripen.