International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

[SandisLL]

Not likely....
It is 4,5 gen fighter where development had been a bit oppressed by " friends " from U.S ....in a lot of cases....
+ it might use roads enough long instead of airfields to climb in sky....


Btw I think that Sweden had did irreversible mistake when didn't continued their nuclear weapons programme and opted to be good friend with U.S , Russia's friends..... instead of to have their own nukes...
Like Switzerland too btw....to some extent...

And U.S is Russia's friend and always will be...
To import from buds in Russia stuff at least 1 bn worth each month is cool U.S daily life and always will be....
Like for Ukr to accuse Europe for buying something and gave crocodile tears about bad world...while Ukr still ...again resumed russia's crude oil and natural gas transit...
Maybe better Ukr should stop to milk us ...stop to pretend like in Cinema scene and agree with reality: they already are under their buds in Russia and just are ......playing Hollywood like scene for ...cows to milk...
Satan ....

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Turns out local ukrainian refugees are as petty as we are.

Apparently a refugee woman that works as a hairdresser shaved a letter Z on the little russian homies head.

Maybe this might be slander and someone from the kids family shaved it in themselves to stir shit up, and get clicks about the bad Ukrainians, IDK.

Who takes conveinient before and after vids of haircuts like this, and films how their broken phone is fixed at a repair shop which is right across the barbershop, unless it's on purpose for some bullshit.

Buuuuut, knowing the tense relations between the people, might be true too. But don't take your frustrations out on a child, ffs

Sounds like bullshit to me. This would have been a shitshow right at the barbershop when it happened.

 

[SandisLL]

Ha, ha ha.
If she had shawed Z..
200-2000-4000 and more in fines and....most likely xxxxx for lawyer and xxxx-××××× in court expenses...
Plus a lot of these " ukr " doesn't know ukr language and there...
Damn...

 

[SandisLL]

Btw I think that animals with soviet era mindset we better should send to Germany or back to Ukr or Russia....
A lot of Satan's slaves are with occupants mindset...
And are dreaming to do rusification work in areas where these satans are located IF these evil ppl will dream that their new slaves should know russian....

Kirill ofc looks like Satan and he is his slave...ofc...Satan's slave...

 

[GhostZ06]

Our main battle tank is the Abrams. I’m not sure exact when it entered service, but it was used in desert storm so at least since 1991. It has been refitted and upgraded in a number of ways since then but i is still the Abram.

1980. It needs to be replaced in my honest opinion. The Rise of drones and the weight of the tank probably is a sign of whats to come. Plus germany just recently built a tank for the modern day battlefield with the Kf51 panther

 

[Anewt]

Well the dehumanising definitely worked for some...

 

[GhostZ06]

Reports are there about the Ukrainian Airforce getting the Saab .

i mean its a direct counter to the Su-35 an should be more advanced. But i doubt SAAB will give that up

 

[flashNsmash]

i mean its a direct counter to the Su-35 an should be more advanced. But i doubt SAAB will give that up

could maybe transfer some legacy gripens if someone decides to pick up the NGs

 

[GhostZ06]

could maybe transfer some legacy gripens if someone decides to pick up the NGs

i need to find a link to this claim. That would really change the landscape if they got Gripens. I bet Saab want some combat data as an added benfit.

 

[lsa]

i need to find a link to this claim. That would really change the landscape if they got Gripens. I bet Saab want some combat data as an added benfit.

I doubt it. Has not been a single word in Swedish press about it.

 

[Denter]

Btw I think that animals with soviet era mindset we better should send to Germany or back to Ukr or Russia....
A lot of Satan's slaves are with occupants mindset...
And are dreaming to do rusification work in areas where these satans are located IF these evil ppl will dream that their new slaves should know russian....

Kirill ofc looks like Satan and he is his slave...ofc...Satan's slave...

I think only Kadyrov is in the habit of calling people shaitans. Is this something you've heard in the Russian media,?

 

[Anewt]

Russia gaining territory in the east again apparently . Reached the centre of the village of Pisky near donetsk airport.

 

[SandisLL]

Kadirov is strange.
When Kremlin had installed him as a ruler in Checnya and started to pump $ in...
He looks that decided that all should be pumped directly in Grozny city......
Not only to rebuild but__ he even attempted to turn Grozny into some small Las Vegas / Monaco clone...
Had built sport complex and resturants....
& portrayed himself as pro muslim and still kept good relationships with Kirill...
& attempted to launch even gambling industry in Grozny...
& attempted to launch boxing promotion....
They had $ and invited TV and journalists....offered them good rooms in hotel and resturant etc....hired Charr etc alike fighters to do fights in events..
___

 

[SandisLL]

Kadirov for one event had such fights on card:
Badr Hari vs Ismael Londt and Briedis vs Charr...
Then gamblers were intetested to bet on these fights....
Afrer Charr had lost he yelled that he needs rematch. Looks that Briedis agreed but due to low gamblers interest it didn't had happened. Kadirov sent Charr back to Germany(?) and looks that didn't had used Hari again too...despite he won and looked good...

 

[SandisLL]

Btw pro Kremlin oriented ppl usually are crying about stuff like " taxpayers money spent on Ukraine " crying story....
I agree if this is about money loans and grants AND....these huge expenses cos refugees ( it is damn underrated painful reality )....

While if about at least some weapons shipments I might laugh if someone is crying...
Cos for example one country had sent them 100 20 years old missiles ....they had anyway scheduled to replace them with new ones after 1-2 years....
Another country: they had supplied really notable ammounts with122mm ammo for cannons ....because they anyway had scheduled to replace this and even if didn't ...doesn't produce this and can't buy from China or Russia cos political reasons.....
In reality such stuff was to save money they should had spent on...it's utilisation....
Next country...
Fast deliveries in march.
Stingers manufactured in 1995-1998 th....
Already scheduled to replace with new ones cos shelf life afrer refubrishment had been close to expire completely....

Etc stuff...
BTW still had worked on Russia ___

 

[Oedad]

I've seen that 280k number but I've also seen 400k. Also, its been flat-out confirmed that they have used conscripts even though they weren't supposed to. The second article I linked talks about that but it's been talked about in this thread. They have 900k professional servicemen across all forces.

https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61619638

There were some conscripts deployed as result of individual commanders not following protocols in the first two weeks or so of the war. Moscow immeditely put an end to that as soon as reports came back some conscripts had been deployed in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...were-sent-ukraine-prosecutor-says-2022-06-07/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/europe/russia-conscripts-fighting-ukraine-intl/index.html

There is not much evidence of any mass deployment of conscripts and few even isolated incidents really after early march. Essentially by the time that CNN article came out the Kremlin had put a stop to it.

It is a deliberate part of the Kremlins war strategy. Putin does not want a dramatic militarization of society. It would vastly increase the political influence of the military and their control of the course of the conflict, and would break down the barriers between civil society and the actual conflict that right now allows him to wage the war on his orders. The civillian populace is insulated as long as the war is fought almost exclusively by volunteers as it is seen more as an expeditionary endeavour like the operation in Syria rather than a total war.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-war-illegally-detained-conscripts-pressure/31926058.html#:~:text=Under Russian law, conscripts can,into combat during the campaign.

Yes they pressure new conscripts to sign contracts, they offer big signing bonuses to get reservists to reactivate, they even have whole volunteer formations now being formed on a oblast by oblast basis with different terms and benefits then regular contract soldiers who are being rolled out to the front, Im sure they give those conscripts who refuse to sign all kinds of social stigma and shit assignments, but it is not the same as general mobilization or even the same as deploying their current class of conscripts on mass to the front. When April came around last years conscript class was rotated out and the next years class began to be processed Putin could have used his emergency powers to force the previous class to stay on another year and make them eligible to deploy but he didn't. Russia is basically doing its own "surge" where they reduce the requirements and increase the benefits to convince or coerce anyone they can to sign up.

In actual mobilization they would be going house to house serving papers and grabbing people by the collars and putting them on buses to the deployment centers like the Ukrainian army does to fill its mobilization schedule.

Now that only applies to Russia proper. In Donetsk and Luhansk there is 100% mobilization and conscripts are being processed and deployed in their 1st and 2nd Army Corps, but again that is disconnected from Russian civil society at large and doesnt have the same political consequences as mobiliztion on Russian territory proper does.

And guess what? Me stating those facts isnt some damnation of the Ukrainian armed forces, or praise of the Russians its just what they have done so far. If the Kremlin thought for one minute they were ever in any danger of actually cedeing the strategic initiative to ukraine because of a lack of manpower like they did in April when they pulled out of the North they 100% would respond and declare some sort of mobilization and start sending large numbers of conscripts and reservists to the front like Ukraine has been doing for 6 months. They just don't estimate they are there yet, and I doubt we will see anything like that until next spring.

 

[aries]

'Dwindling human resources': Kremlin propagandists begging for 'professionals' to immigrate to Russia

"Davis continues, “Appearing on the state TV show ‘Who’s Against?’ on Tuesday, (August 23), Anna Revyakina, deputy chairwoman of the Public Chamber of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic in occupied Ukraine, voiced her ideas about attracting potential immigrants to Russia. She suggested that instead of worrying about the wave of European visa bans on Russians who want to travel abroad, Moscow should do more to attract foreigners to Russia.”

Revyakina told “Who’s Against?’ viewers, “All of us Russians and our government should create maximally attractive conditions for the citizens of other countries to come to us, augmenting our population. We have an enormous territory, a huge country, maybe not even fully developed, 140 million people. Of course, we need more. Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin) is concerned about this, with various programs for families with many children.”

Revyakina encouraged Russian speakers living in the Baltics to consider moving to Russia, saying that applicants need to be “loyal, in love with Russia, and speaking the language.”

'Dwindling human resources': Kremlin propagandists begging for 'professionals' to immigrate to Russia (msn.com)

Yeah... I don't see Russia attracting a lot of "professionals" now.

Wow, they really didn't think this whole thing through did they.....

 

[aries]

Our government might actually discuss doing all expenses paid repatriations to those who voluntarily want to go to Russia, because people are collecting signatures about this right now.

If they don't like what we're doing here, just let it be known, and we'll buy you a ticket to the motherland, if life is so much better there.

Let's see how much traction this gets.



https://bnn-news.com/signatures-col...f-disloyal-latvian-residents-to-russia-237461

This. I get the whole experience of xenophobia, not feeling welcome and wanting to keep important aspects of your cultural identity but the whole hating the country you CHOSE to live in just baffles me. Why did you come here in the first place if you are just going to complain non-stop? Do something positive i.e. run for election, STFU, or ship off.

 

[Zinger]

Nevermind, mesread a post.

 

[ferrisjso]

Russia gaining territory in the east again apparently . Reached the centre of the village of Pisky near donetsk airport.

They only need like 40% of Donetsk to finish the job. Given the last month or so of pretty much statlemate there's been the question of "is Russia waiting on purpose or are are they unable to move forward?". Movement means that question was likely the former.

I think at this point Russia wants to finish the job in Kharkov too and turn it into a thriving Russian border town. But regardless of Kharkov once Donesk falls they have the ability to claim victory in this conflict and put the ball in Ukraines court. Defense is much less manpower intensive than offense. Getting to that point where the Ukranians have to actively attempt to dislodge Russians(which they can't do)is key.

I agree with Putins decision to avoid mobilization at all costs. There is no quicker way to turn your public against the war. Look at US in Vietnam War case in point. If you're close to done just troop ahead and get finished with what you have.