International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[A Very Serious Cat]

Enemy is subjective. The enemy is within and as Trump said the deep state. The enemy is also the World Economic Forum types and UK, etc. Fauci etc


There is a lot more

I honestly can't remember seeing anyone other than you as pro Russia in here. I'm sure there other posters somewhere on the site though

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Turkey were blocking them from joining nato though until concessions were made. It's not some conspiracy theory you know

Trumpians must be furious.

Trump constantly told Turkey not to buy weapons from Russia.

Turkey did anyway.

Turkey have been working with Russia for a while, but on nothing substantive. Just piecemeal bullshit, less important than that with which Turkey works with Europe.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Trumpians must be furious.

Trump constantly told Turkey not to buy weapons from Russia.

Turkey did anyway.

Turkey have been working with Russia for a while, but on nothing substantive. Just piecemeal bullshit, less important than that with which Turkey works with Europe.

Ok? Not really anything to do with what I was saying but sure

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Turkey atteneded BRICS summits before and is rumored to join maybe next year. Argentina, Iran maybe and Saudi Arabia is the focus of this years BRICS expansion. Dedollarization is also the main thing uniting brics in addition to multipolarity and spheres of world regional influemce for one another.

Turkey is trying to get into the EU, and is flirting with the other girl at the other side of the room, LOL

Turkey has constantly been shunned by the EU, so big deal they're trying to leverage their situation.

Is this the first you've ever heard of Turkey?

 

[Snowblindlove]

Trumpians must be furious.

Trump constantly told Turkey not to buy weapons from Russia.

Turkey did anyway.

Turkey have been working with Russia for a while, but on nothing substantive. Just piecemeal bullshit, less important than that with which Turkey works with Europe.

Trump was and is pro russian. The only people who seriously didnt think that were dumb as bricks republicans. Smart Republicans knew it and were also pro russian as the interests align and they either promoted that Trump is pro russian for good reason (as Tucker Carlson did) or they claimed as Hannity did that Trump is just pragmatic and a good deal maker.

Turkey has no real allies. Russians dislike and dont trust them and have historic beef for past Turkish war crimes done against Russian allies (Bulgarians, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks). Turks also hate Israelis and Arabs. Turks also dislike liberal EU and hate European white nationalism which is anti islam.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Ok? Not really anything to do with what I was saying but sure

Turkey siding with Russia/BRICS is absolutely nonsense.

Turkey is 'keeping it's options open', not siding with BRICS, and not siding with Russia.

If you want a conspiracy, it's more likely that Turkey is posing as the black sheep of Europe, buying Russian armaments from the clown Putin, and selling the information to Europe.

But sure.

Turkey could join the worthless BRICS union at any moment........

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Trump was and is pro russian. The only people who seriously didnt think that were dumb as bricks republicans. Smart Republicans knew it and were also pro russian as the interests align and they either promoted that Trump is pro russian for good reason (as Tucker Carlson did) or they claimed as Hannity did that Trump is just pragmatic and a good deal maker.

Turkey has no real allies. Russians dislike and dont trust them and have historic beef for past Turkish war crimes done against Russian allies (Bulgarians, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks). Turks also hate Israelis and Arabs. Turks also dislike liberal EU and hate European white nationalism which is anti islam.

Trumpian politics are aimed at one thing only.

Consolidating Donald's power.

Sure, he'd flirt with Russia - but 'their interests aligned'?

Jesus Christ, man... How old are you, 15?

 

[Snowblindlove]

Turkey is trying to get into the EU, and is flirting with the other girl at the other side of the room, LOL

Turkey has constantly been shunned by the EU, so big deal they're trying to leverage their situation.

Is this the first you've ever heard of Turkey?

Turkey in the EU was a real thing before Erdogan. Country used to be military secular influenced and kept down Islamism. That died and massive purges saw those purely secular forces driven away. Turkey is far from being a rsdicalized country so it could go back but the issue now is Erdogan has raised 1 generation of kids with his nationalist outlook abd he has empowered the far right elements.

BRICS isnt like the EU by the way. It is just a trade thing. The Eurasian Union is like the EU but Russia would never allow Turkey into Eurasian Union and Turkey wouldnt want it either as they would be ruled by Moscow. Eurasian Union is only for Ex Soviet nations and maybe Mongolia and maybe 1 day Iran at max if the leadership ever modernized.

 

[Snowblindlove]

Turkey siding with Russia/BRICS is absolutely nonsense.

Turkey is 'keeping it's options open', not siding with BRICS, and not siding with Russia.

If you want a conspiracy, it's more likely that Turkey is posing as the black sheep of Europe, buying Russian armaments from the clown Putin, and selling the information to Europe.

But sure.

Turkey could join the worthless BRICS union at any moment........

Where you are wrong is underestimating Brics. Its has power, immense in population, resources and wealth. It sticks strickly to trade and regional affairs for each group to pursue their own agenda. That is why it works and will work.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Where you are wrong is underestimating Brics. Its has power, immense in population, resources and wealth. It sticks strickly to trade and regional affairs for each group to pursue their own agenda. That is why it works and will work.

BRICS is a wannabe opposition to the Western world, based on emerging economies, several decades behind the infrastructures they are set up to challenge.

If you want to talk about nations that want to join BRICS, look at Iran and other South American countries.

They're generally the furthest away from the Western world looking for a stronger foothold in the worldwide economy.

It's cool, because if the West won't trade with them, that shouldn't stop them trading.

Turkey's not joining it, though.

 

[MTT]

Enemy is subjective. The enemy is within and as Trump said the deep state. The enemy is also the World Economic Forum types and UK, etc. Fauci etc


There is a lot more

I don't buy into unsubstantiated boogeyman theories. If you want to support losers, that's your prerogative. Similar to Trump, I enjoy winners. This is one reason why I cannot support Trump or Russia.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Turkey siding with Russia/BRICS is absolutely nonsense.

Turkey is 'keeping it's options open', not siding with BRICS, and not siding with Russia.

If you want a conspiracy, it's more likely that Turkey is posing as the black sheep of Europe, buying Russian armaments from the clown Putin, and selling the information to Europe.

But sure.

Turkey could join the worthless BRICS union at any moment........

I didn't mention brics once so calm down champ. Maybe read what I was saying before trying to unload a rant on me about something unrelated, k?

 

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[Denter]

Trump was and is pro russian. The only people who seriously didnt think that were dumb as bricks republicans. Smart Republicans knew it and were also pro russian as the interests align and they either promoted that Trump is pro russian for good reason (as Tucker Carlson did) or they claimed as Hannity did that Trump is just pragmatic and a good deal maker.

Turkey has no real allies. Russians dislike and dont trust them and have historic beef for past Turkish war crimes done against Russian allies (Bulgarians, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks). Turks also hate Israelis and Arabs. Turks also dislike liberal EU and hate European white nationalism which is anti islam.

Damn sounds like Turkey pretty much hates everyone around them. Reminds me of this old meme:

 

[Snowblindlove]

I don't buy into unsubstantiated boogeyman theories. If you want to support losers, that's your prerogative. Similar to Trump, I enjoy winners. This is one reason why I cannot support Trump or Russia.

Well you will be in for a shock. Russia is winning will win and will outlive the US

 

[Anewt]

"Russia-Ukraine war live news: Putin claims progress on grain exports; Iran’s supreme leader endorses Moscow’s invasion | Ukraine | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/world/l...rans-supreme-leader-endorses-moscows-invasion


Putin won the endorsement of the Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, for the invasion of Ukraine on Tuesday.

Khamenei told Putin:

War is a harsh and difficult issue, and Iran is not at all pleased that ordinary people suffer from it, but in the case of Ukraine if you had not taken the initiative, the other side would have caused the war with its own initiative.

If the road is open to Nato, it knows no boundaries and if it was not stopped in Ukraine they would start the same war some time later under the pretext of Crimea.



He said Russia and Iran needed to work together gradually to reduce the power of the dollar.

Putin echoed Iran’s judgment that he had no choice but to invade, saying: “No one is in favour of war, and the loss of ordinary people’s lives is a great tragedy, but the behaviour of the west made us have no choice but to react. Some European countries said ‘We were against Ukraine’s membership in Nato, but we agreed under American pressure,’ which shows their lack of independence.”




The European Union will set out emergency plans later today to reduce gas demand within months, warning countries that without deep cuts now they could struggle for fuel during winter if Russia cuts off deliveries.

Reuters reports:

Europe is racing to fill its gas storage ahead of winter and build a supply buffer in case Moscow further restricts supplies in retaliation for European support for Ukraine in its war with Russia. Russia’s Gazprom has already halted deliveries to some EU states.

The European Commission will urge countries to prepare for possible further cuts by slashing gas use. A draft of the EU plan, seen by Reuters, would propose a voluntary target for countries to cut their gas demand over the next eight months, which could be made legally binding in a supply emergency.

EU officials said the target would be for a 10-15% cut in gas use.

The proposal, which could change before it is published, would need approval from EU countries who are largely responsible for their own energy policies.

There has been resistance from some countries, including Poland, who feel their contingency plans do not need a boost from Brussels.

 

[Rholk]

Turkey were blocking them from joining nato though until concessions were made. It's not some conspiracy theory you know

I've never said that it was a "conspiracy theory" just saying that if you thought Turkey was legit going to keep them from joining to support Russia, you're a bit enthousiastic.
Erdogan saw an opportunity to get something he wanted and took it, dude is somewhat of a dick, but from his point of view it makes sense

 

[MTT]

There is a lot more

At least you have the courage of your convictions. You're right, there are a lot more. Supporting a dictator who assassinates his political enemies and is attempting to conquer neighbors in the 21st century isn't something many are comfortable openly admitting. They are cowards but post content reveals all.

Well you will be in for a shock. Russia is winning will win and will outlive the US

I wouldn't bet on it. Make no mistake, God is on America's side. If a wide-scale war breaks out, I wish to see the USA create a battalion of coupled transexual lovers similar to the Sacred Band of Thebes. They would mop the floor with the Russians.