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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

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God knows how much ppl they might get.
Merchs from poor areas.
Wagner.
Separartists " republics ".

Then after this other stuff...

We IMHO better should count equipment destroyed.
Cos 30 or 40 or 50 k ants will for them just matter lower unemployment % ...absolutely nothing important
...in reality...
 
BTW despite КГБ style casual bullisht propaganda exactly like Hitler did with Austria and Sudetia....

I don't mind against seperatists republics IF...
we are allowed to install mission+ supervisors from 30+ countries and maybe after 3 years internationally supervised referendum might be done on NORMAL grounds!!! Russia IMHO even today have no clue what stuff normal life and negotiations are...
The same as Stalin was...nothing since 1949 th had changed in Kremlin...
 
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+ if we with cold and pragmatic mind are looking on weapons supplies demands ....
NATO does have duty in first to supply full members countries if they had placed orders...
Not like this will be : I'm from Ukraine and ASAP need xxx m worth missiles...while other countries should stay at bay...
Like Ukr crying cos South Korea.
We had filled them with weapons supplies orders till vomit level for example.
The same with Israel.
We are preparing for Real war....and some pussy allies will not be able to help our enemy to reach his goal.
 
How a russian nationalist jokes about Putin's five months long and seemingly endless "special military operation" (SMO) in telegram:

The Institute of Military History received an order from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to write a "History of the Special Military Operation" in 50 volumes. It is tentatively assumed that each volume will include a description of one stage of the SMO. The team of authors came up with a counter-proposal: based on the forecast of General Shamanov - to create a work in 10 volumes - a year of hostilities in each volume.
 
SandisLL said:
+ if we with cold and pragmatic mind are looking on weapons supplies demands ....
NATO does have duty in first to supply full members countries if they had placed orders...
Not like this will be : I'm from Ukraine and ASAP need xxx m worth missiles...while other countries should stay at bay...
Like Ukr crying cos South Korea.
We had filled them with weapons supplies orders till vomit level for example.
The same with Israel.
We are preparing for Real war....and some pussy allies will not be able to help our enemy to reach his goal.
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Yeah most European militaries (maybe excluding France) are woefully undersized and underfunded.
 
Denter said:
Yeah most European militaries (maybe excluding France) are woefully undersized and underfunded.
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France is not exactly big either considering population.

Ukraine has nearly 20 mil less people yet nearly 2x active personnel on ground troops not to mention reservists (stats before war)
 
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Denter said:
Yeah most European militaries (maybe excluding France) are woefully undersized and underfunded.
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That's because in peace time it's considered an extra cost with no effective application

Not that the concept of "si vis pacem para bellum" is wrong, but without a direct imminent threat politics will ever think about short future stuff, specially in recent years with all shit that happened

Real upgrade would be an unified european army wich is kind what EU wish, but i don't trust EU tbh and would not like an unified euro army as long they're the ones in power

Also i believe the EU alliance give a fake sense of security
NATO is a credible shield due USA being in, but EU can be a big farce as far i know

Btw i don't think external militar threat is biggest danger for european people as we speak, for most of us the russian front is still a far thing (beside of course for estern/north-eastern bros) and China is even more far, with decades of asian games ahead

Our danger come from inner problem, give few decades and euros will see the price of retardness
 
Bacco said:
That's because in peace time it's considered an extra cost with no effective application

Not that the concept of "si vis pacem para bellum" is wrong, but without a direct imminent threat politics will ever think about short future stuff, specially in recent years with all shit that happened

Real upgrade would be an unified european army wich is kind what EU wish, but i don't trust EU tbh and would not like an unified euro army as long they're the ones in power

Also i believe the EU alliance give a fake sense of security
NATO is a credible shield due USA being in, but EU can be a big farce as far i know

Btw i don't think external militar threat is biggest danger for european people as we speak, for most of us the russian front is still a far thing (beside of course for estern/north-eastern bros) and China is even more far, with decades of asian games ahead

Our danger come from inner problem, give few decades and euros will see the price of retardness
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I mean its easy to look at

West europe has no conscription while nearly everyone who has hostile country as neighbour still has it.

General pic (some shit might be wrong but you get the idea)

 
Latvia for example doesn't have mando conscription today.
Politicians now will attempt to introduce mando conscription again.
While IMHO talks about hazing were ...reality.
Ofc not so brutal like in some KB gyms or in student corps....
While they does have volunteer national guard + pros and police, border guard etc...

National guard per se doesn't use hazing....
KB gym might happen that will have hazing...for example one from steps is ...KB type fight vs guy dressed like casual on the street...
I don't think that to get kikced with shoes for irish step dancing and punched with bare hands etc like in MT without MT rules ...is good idea...

Student hazing is not mando in Baltics...
Even for corps...

If someone here is thinking about this: there might be higher risk than in Russia's mando service...
Just once.

In general: specify what kind of hazing is expected and you simply might not attend this stuff if don't agree.
It might be brutal students corps stuff from time before 1914 th...

Ask.
 
Cole train said:
I mean its easy to look at

West europe has no conscription while nearly everyone who has hostile country as neighbour still has it.

General pic (some shit might be wrong but you get the idea)

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You think I would shed even a drop of piss for any country out there while rich and powerful sit in bunkers? think it twice young man
 
Nameless King said:
You think I would shed even a drop of piss for any country out there while rich and powerful sit in bunkers? think it twice young man
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No one cares about your opinion.
We maybe will need your body for food factory. Don't think that you are usable for other applications rather than to be usable to...produce sausages. Ofc even this usability depends from your weight and size.
 
"
Russia and Ukraine made substantive progress in their first direct talks since March on a deal to relieve a global food crisis caused by the blockading of grain exports from Ukraine’s Black Sea ports, but an end to the war remained far off as heavy shelling continued in the east of the country.

The high-stakes meeting on Wednesday in Istanbul involving Ukrainian, Russian, UN and Turkish officials broke up after slightly more than three hours with an agreement to meet again in Turkey next week, UN and Turkish officials said."
 
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