International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[12ga.]

Any large scale conflict with a nation is going to be costly to air assets,
It's just that Russia's anti air capabilities are a bit of a hype job, they do a great job of promoting them tho (a bit like the SU-57, T-14),
In real conflicts they have failed to impress so far. See Syria, Armenia-Azerbaijan and ofcourse Ukraine now.

Then why didnt we do a no fly zone like everywhere else? I told you why - Miley told Biden and other Western leaders GFHS.

As a result -

 

[SandisLL]

There is big difference between Hitler's forces and modern Russia's forces...airplanes.

Almost all airplanes Hitler had used in Battle for Britain for example...
were new...not old.
Manufactured in 1937-1938-1939....
It was 1940 th...

Hitler heavily boosted up military expenses in 1937 th and in 1938 th quadrupled funds for weapons production if compare with 1937 th...
In 1939 th Hitler again increased funds for already bumped up bubble of expenses for weapons production....

Hitler already had lost vs U.K >2200 airplanes and this still didn't prevented him....to attack USSR...

Imagine what will happen with any modern country if country will lost 2200 airplanes ???

For Hitler this then was " nothing special ".
He had turned Germany and annexed areas into weapons factories....

While initially might had looked that Sudetia stuff was cos germans....it was coal region!
Then Austria....
Again might look that just cos one language.
Nope.
Control Austria means easy access to Hungary and when this achieved to....Romania..
Hungary and Romania then had .....f**in crude oil production! and ofc to control Romania means access to Black sea.
Via politicians in Hungary and Romania or....maybe by force ....

The same about why Hitler scheduled one from attack directions....deNazification in Caucasus....
Baku crude oil region then was damn important....

 

[Rholk]

Then why didnt we do a no fly zone like everywhere else? I told you why - Miley told Biden and other Western leaders GFHS.

As a result -

There isn't a no-fly zone because the probability of starting ww3 is too high.
Great sources by the way, is this where you get your info from?
are you one of the 37 followers from "Independent Observer"
I do guess he has "independent" in his name so he should be reliable
I guess he did quote a (retired) lt colonel, who strangely seems vividly against sweden and finland joining nato aswell
https://twitter.com/danielldavis1

 

[Rholk]

interesting sighting with what appears to be a French BONUS artillery round (thanks to the reddit comments)

 

[Zinger]

Got this in my YT recommendations. The man is brilliant.

 

[SandisLL]

There isn't a no-fly zone because the probability of starting ww3 is too high.
Great sources by the way, is this where you get your info from?
are you one of the 37 followers from "Independent Observer"
I do guess he has "independent" in his name so he should be reliable
I guess he did quote a (retired) lt colonel, who strangely seems vividly against sweden and finland joining nato aswell
https://twitter.com/danielldavis1

No one is independent...

Some ppl in US still are even thinking: europe is small village and let's " sell " them to Russia, why not.

While if they will do this...will get worse crisis than 2008-2009 th financial crisis + Covid crisis + this new crisis toghether and quickly...

When US will get >1 m middle class ppl unemployed and companies will feel damn a lot.
Great Depression will come in ...1929 th repeat.

Cos multiple reasons...

Only one small ( really small ) portion of this all is software license fees sold for example in Eurozone.
It is >100 b each year...income for US companies....
While ppl are crying about small 40b just supposed for some Ukraine....
BTW a lot of customers IRL are able to replace some paid software with free versions...
Especially if one needs comp only to use for social networking, to pay bills and to use simple functions for office type tasks ...

There also is big thing when ppl shit on europe....
We know how to use a lot of stuff for free....while only some ethics might prevent to do this... nothing else...
Nothing, absolutely nothing else.

 

[SandisLL]

For example one from my friends is paying for just one specific soft more than 5 k EUR each year....
How I might hurt U.S?
Not by talking.... or typing in internet or doing something...
Just enough to place on table one A-4 format paper list.
Cos he isn't stupid, just some points and vuala will happen quickly.
And after this....vuala....$$$$ for US corp will be gone...next yearly portion.

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Why I don't do this?
Just cos some ethic level.
While western " friends " are doing all the best to break last ties....IRL....with us.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Macabre question, but what's the maximum number of people you could potentially shoot 'through' with one bullet? Just one?

Bro I fix Planes , I'm not going to claim to be an expert. I do know that certain Sniper Rifles have a higher caliber and can mow people down , this may not be as high and also depending on the round the the exit wound might not be so simple to predict

Yeah I mean even 5.56 rounds from m4s can go through one person and hit another. How much damage it could do though is another question. There are a lot of variables here. Bullets don’t go straight through a person.

A round from like a 50 cal is a whole different story and would blast through who knows how many of those guys leaving massive holes in them.

What those guys were doing in that video was very bad. Walking down a road in a line like that. That’s either poor training or those guys have gotten so complacent they were just like fuck it if I die I die.

 

[SandisLL]

IMHO cos propaganda.
Ppl are happy to see liberators from poverty and bad oppressors - nazis etc..
2008-2022 propaganda might had achieved this attitude and flowchart.

I once had read post from russian:
We had been told that they are in big trouble and are waiting us as liberators.
When we arriwed....
F*"* they are shooting !
Ofc during next hour huge surprise and a bit panic had been around.
Guy btw believed that ppl will be happy to see him in Ukraine.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Wont stop until all Russia speaking areas become Russia.

Notice how the hoaxes are becoming less believable: 2016: Russia collusion 2017: Trump calls Nazis "fine people" 2020: Trump says drink bleach to stop COVID 2020: Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation 2021: J6 is an "insurrection" 2022: Trump tried carjacking the POTUS limo

Next will be "russians ran out of ammo, generals, tanks and moral"

The average Call of Duty warrior believes such nonsense, but I guarantee very few in the Pentagon harbor such delusions.

Your posts are getting illegible. I don’t think I’m alone in not knowing what you’re trying to get at here.

 

[heavyarms21]

Yeah I mean even 5.56 rounds from m4s can go through one person and hit another. How much damage it could do though is another question. There are a lot of variables here. Bullets don’t go straight through a person.

A round from like a 50 cal is a whole different story and would blast through who knows how many of those guys leaving massive holes in them.

What those guys were doing in that video was very bad. Walking down a road in a line like that. That’s either poor training or those guys have gotten so complacent they were just like fuck it if I die I die.

5.56 rounds are miserable to when they hit the target because the rounds bounces and the exit wound is unpredictable.

 

[heavyarms21]

Edit. Apparently the 5.56 round bouncing was an old rumor, I always heard it perpetuated when shooting on ranges and always believed it.

https://www.quora.com/I-ve-heard-th...al-on-impact-What-are-some-more-lethal-rounds

 

[SandisLL]

5,56 like 5,45 does have different bullets and powder loads...
They both does have for example amour piercing and casual rounds etc....


While....I with intent will not repost one video with guy from Russia.
Lad is like ~ 20-21 y.o guy and IMHO with intellect I had when I was 17-18.
He wasn't POV and never had been captured....
Just how...damn surprise that ppl aren't happy to see him and his mates....
He even wasn't injured.
Just this; " damn....they are shooting on us, I had excepted that they will be statisfied to see us....
+ wasn't pro western or pro kremlin channel.
Just simple casual guy...

 

[PEB]

Got this in my YT recommendations. The man is brilliant.

I believe a number of Trump associates where at this event in Moscow including Michael Flynn, David A Clarke Jr. and a few others with ties to him. You cannot make this sh#t up. Mike just loves hanging out with old Puty another event with him. It's good to keep up with the traitorous scumbags.

 

[PEB]

 

[squeezewax]

Patrick talking to some residents of the Donbass region. The people in this region have been shelled on almost a daily basis since 2014 when the democratically elected President was removed by the West. Eight years!

One of the reasons Russia went in to the Ukraine was because around 100,000 Ukrainian personnel, including the Nazi batallions such as the Azov, were gathering on the outskirts of Donbass to ethnically cleanse the area of Russian speaking residents of the Donbass.
They were liberating these people. Stopping a mass slaughter of people who see Russia as the Motherland.

 

[SandisLL]

Patrick talking to some residents of the Donbass region. The people in this region have been shelled on almost a daily basis since 2014 when the democratically elected President was removed by the West. Eight years!

One of the reasons Russia went in to the Ukraine was because around 100,000 Ukrainian personnel, including the Nazi batallions such as the Azov, were gathering on the outskirts of Donbass to ethnically cleanse the area of Russian speaking residents of the Donbass.
They were liberating these people. Stopping a mass slaughter of people who see Russia as the Motherland.

Ohh, you little Nazist are with Nazist Patrick and nazist Putin for sure.

What new kind of claims you Nazists country will produce?
You are Nazist and just hide this reality....


Your Nazist nation: Russians ( they are nazists ) and Kremlin didn't bothered to invite U.N troops to check your Nazist claims....

Russia basically is nazi country with nazi population.
Like Hitler's Germany in 1938 th.

Propaganda is cool stuff little baby....

 

[SandisLL]

Interestingly why when Russia's dolls ruled in Kiev....
1992-2014...
Surprisingly Ukraine then didn't had claimed by Nazists in Moscow " nazi problem " in Ukraine....

When some Poroshenko ....then Ukr is automatically " bad slave " and " nazi ".
LOL, tales for babushkas.
And for idiots like stupid Putin and his senile friends....
If him didn't liked Zelensky.....then should just to wait till next elections, rulers in Urkaine never lasted for long time....

Actually dumbasses in Kremlin over calculated their impact and IQ level with 0 doubts. ..

If Russia didn't had invaded....a lot of things didn't had happened even if 10 years peace in Ukraine.....

For example even the same just honey odour worth nothing more..EU candidate status.
Even this Ukr didn't had get if Russia didn't had invaded....

Not alone even these miniscule supplies....they are getting today....

God, how stupid Russia is.

 

[SandisLL]

Next check reality stuff.
We during last 2 months get more energy projects approwed than during last 3 ,5 years.. .
Thank you, Mr. Putin.
We are happy and thankful for your help.
.+ increased budgets for police and military and security services.
+ Russia is considered as not trustable supplier....It matters damn a lot in damn long term....
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With China we will deal and no one in this world will be able to prevent this to happen in real life....
China already is on edge mortgage bubble to collapse.
In 2008/2009 they correctly decided to deal with crisis by local consumption boost up....
And managed with a glance, kudos...
Then the same with Covid crisis.

Now? Dreams about superempire and little sisters - friends..

Looks that even if custom fees had been 0....ppl in EU and US etc will not have so much free money to buy extra ammounts of mainstream crap sold by China....
This is cool in long term....
China will see....quickly and with 0 sanctions.
They are getting >15X more from trading with eurozone than from trading with Russia....
LOL.

0 sanctions....
Export to eurozone will drop...

 

[A Lurker]

Got this in my YT recommendations. The man is brilliant.

A Ray of Sunshine in a world of darkness.

Posts like this make the argument for a “love” button.