International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

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There may not be any good options, but I'd suggest keeping some leverage. Example: noises have been made about "transitioning" away from Russian oil and gas in 5 to 10 years. Maybe set that capability up, but don't use it much. Keep buying the fuel, but let it be known that a transition is doable (right now its not doable without destroying Germany). Keep its potential for use to prevent further escalations. Money talks.

Well, it is not so easy to do this silently.
For example one from my buds is working in business where they should have heating plant.
Due to stuff that plant should provide steam for factory and heating too 24/7/365 they should mandatory keep fuel reserves in case if fuel supplies will be interrupted.
Initially they had equipment using heavy fuel oil.
All okey, until these greens.
Then prices too rised and stuff with stupid natural gas and secondary fuel : high quality diesel fuel had been installed.
They have always to keep diesel fuel reserves for 240 hours work in case " if " ...and it is not cheap.
& unlike with heavy fuel oil diesel storage time is limited irl not only on paper.
While still they managed to use less fuel with more modern equipment....
Now will install additional stuff with wood chips as fuel.
Approx 50% had been done for this in 2021 th.
 
Well, it is not so easy to do this silently.
For example one from my buds is working in business where they should have heating plant.
Due to stuff that plant should provide steam for factory and heating too 24/7/365 they should mandatory keep fuel reserves in case if fuel supplies will be interrupted.
Initially they had equipment using heavy fuel oil.
All okey, until these greens.
Then prices too rised and stuff with stupid natural gas and secondary fuel : high quality diesel fuel had been installed.
They have always to keep diesel fuel reserves for 240 hours work in case " if " ...and it is not cheap.
& unlike with heavy fuel oil diesel storage time is limited irl not only on paper.
While still they managed to use less fuel with more modern equipment....
Now will install additional stuff with wood chips as fuel.
Approx 50% had been done for this in 2021 th.
Yeah, I think other posters here have hypothesized that the Greens, particularly in Germany, were directly working for Russia. Not sure if that's true or not.

But yeah I in no means want to downplay how expensive that would be to change fuel gradients and build up a new distribution and storage system and the like. Its just an idea.
 
Then there is stuff with emmision quotas and " greens " .
For example the same Estonia might had generated more, Poland, Finland etc and etc.
Even the same Germany.
If here weren't " green " crybabies.
+ If add here that anti nuclear, anti peat, coal and oil shale, anti fracking etc crybabies around....
 
A russian ultra-nationalist take on why is this kind of special operation war instead of full mobilization not really promising for Russia:

To questions like: "what's new on the fronts?" It's hard for me to answer now. On the fronts, almost everywhere - battles. Somewhere positional, somewhere offensive and (increasingly) defensive. In general, with the exception of the Donbass and the Kharkiv region, the front is stable. Ours and ukry are digging in. And it's very bad. Why? - Yes, because if a month and a half ago, in the Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog directions, the enemy had only mobile defense, now they are intensively creating strongholds on the front line and in their near rear, which then will inevitably have to be taken VERY LONG AND WITH GREAT LOSSES. Like Mariupol, like Popasnaya, Izyum, Rubizhne and Severodonetsk. We will again have to wage stubborn bloody battles for every village, every grove and skyscraper ... it is expensive to pay with Russian blood for every few hundred meters traveled. And it seems that there will be no one to "ask" for this - "of course, by the objective course of events it turned out that way" ... although this is not at all the case.

At the beginning of the operation, the RF Armed Forces were just demonstrating highly maneuverable actions, deep strategic breakthroughs for tens and even hundreds of kilometers. Which ended in "zilch" for reasons that I have repeatedly called and described. (Initially, a fundamentally wrong assessment of the operational situation, which was the basis of military planning and the extreme lack of forces and means associated with this assessment to consolidate and control the territory passed, etc.). Nevertheless - despite the final discouraging "semi-failure" (there was no "run to the border" in the south), the first stage of the operation - it (compared to the "Second Concrete") - looks much more "alive" than that " bloody push-pull" into which the fighting has degenerated since late April to this day. Simply because at the first stage there was no conscious purposeful and even "pre-glorified" near-military "experts" sticking the active army into a STRATEGIC DEADLOCK. The military decisions were bold and aimed at achieving a decisive victory.
While even the FULL success (which is not visible in the near future) of the second stage, at best, will only lead to costly (in terms of losses in people and equipment) relatively small territorial acquisitions achieved by PUSHING the enemy out of Donbass.

Imagine for a moment that the enemy in the next few weeks will still be completely defeated by continuous frontal and flank attacks and completely driven out of the LDNR. - AND? - And what will it give? Will it end the war? - No, not at all. The maximum will shorten the front line somewhat and nothing more. Suppose the enemy suffers heavy losses (he still bears them). But in these few weeks, he will be able (due to ongoing mobilizations) to prepare new fresh reserves. Moreover, he already has these reserves! - The enemy is so confident in the strategic stability of his front (on which the surrender of 1-2 settlements in 2-3 days has no effect) that he continues to keep a relatively large grouping on the border with Transnistria and even created a new one (several army BTGs) on the border with Belarus. And he continues to form new units and formations both in the deep rear and in the Sumy and Chernihiv regions abandoned by the Russian troops during the "run to the border".
That is, when our formations, weakened by the hardest battles and bloody assaults, reach the borders of the LDNR, they will be met by fresh and well-equipped formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the lines prepared in advance for defense. And even if these fresh formations do not want (for some reason) to seize the initiative and launch a counter-offensive (one or more) - all the same, the Russian Federation will face the prospect of a long positional war in full growth - a war, almost (with a reservation - in current realities) fatal for our economy, social and socio-political stability.
 
Anybody else notice this?

Russians are painting the Ukrainian flag over the Russian flag on their license plates.

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Good idea to avoid being targeted by Ukranian javelin teams... <mma4>
 
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Yeah, I think other posters here have hypothesized that the Greens, particularly in Germany, were directly working for Russia. Not sure if that's true or not.

But yeah I in no means want to downplay how expensive that would be to change fuel gradients and build up a new distribution and storage system and the like. Its just an idea.

With fuel IMHO initial expenses with natural gas system are lower, then with heavy fuel oil, wood chips, and the king is coal cos good equipment to use coal is very expensive

If about diesel fuel: there is fuel storage time and it is not cheap fuel.
While with heavy fuel oil fuel feed system is considerably more expensive, usually with pre heating system.
There also is stuff that even heavy fuel oil does have marks and different standards.
Some stuff might smoothly work with cheapest heavy fuel oil available while with the same other equipment will end quickly...
Coal as fuel requires very good metallic parts for equipment + new eco requirements too should be fultfilled.
 
Honestly watching Russia get embarrassed like this it was worth it. Way better than the money we wasted on the war on terror.
I don't care about Russia and I don't know why you do. I care that we quickly shat out 54 billion while members of congress pass tent cities aka Obama-villes on their way to work.

This money isn't even going to Ukraine. It's going to arms manufacturers. Will Ukraine even receive 30 billion in weapons?
 
I don't care about Russia. I care that we quickly shat out 54 billion while members of congress pass tent cities aka Obama-villes on their way to work.

This money isn't even going to Ukraine. It's going to arms manufacturers. Will Ukraine even receive 30 billion in weapons?

Don’t know I gave up worrying about government spending a long time ago. They throw money around and it’s clear no one will be able to stop it. So I’ll take the small wins I can here and there. This is one of those small wins for me.
 
There may not be any good options, but I'd suggest keeping some leverage. Example: noises have been made about "transitioning" away from Russian oil and gas in 5 to 10 years. Maybe set that capability up, but don't use it much. Keep buying the fuel, but let it be known that a transition is doable (right now its not doable without destroying Germany). Keep its potential for use to prevent further escalations. Money talks.
At this point doing business with Russia seems foolish. You can't set a precedent that it's OK to redraw borders militarily. Your stance seems more like what Obama tried when Russia annexed Crimea and backed the Donbas separatists. Now it's a full blown invasion with sights set on the entire coast all the way to Moldova.
 
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