International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[lsa]

I never said I am any of those things and a saying one can say and not be muslim and lastly many christians do believe in reincarnation as do muslims and jews etc.

No they dont, maybe on a personal level but the religions them self do not preach reincarnation.

 

[Snowblindlove]

No they dont, maybe on a personal level but the religions them self do not preach reincarnation.

ooooh how naive you are

 

[lsa]

ooooh how naive you are

The irony..
Now this is OT so I will leave it here.
But its clearly you are clueless and a bad little troll.

 

[Badr Hari]

So in your opinion ( if ) Russia takes all Donbass Russia won't claim victory?

The dumbass government can claim it. Hell, they say absolutely everything has been going according to the plan since the beginning. But Russia is russians and russians know what they want and how much they've fucked up, regardless of what their mindless government says.

 

[lsa]

President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that if the West wanted to defeat Russia on the battlefield, it was welcome to try.

Russia was just getting started in Ukraine, Putin said in a hawkish speech to parliamentary leaders, and the prospects for any negotiation would grow dimmer the longer the conflict dragged on.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-beat-us-battlefield-let-them-try-2022-07-07/

 

[Strychnine]

It won't; the USA will tell his replacement to continue to fly out to tell Zelinsky in person he must fight until every Ukranian is dead, in order to maximise pain and suffering for the Russians (and also - much more so - the Ukranians, but USA don't really care bout them anyway so they don't count), whenever he shows signs of wavering or the EU leaders suggest some kind of negotiations.

And that's what his replacement will continue to do (even if we have an election and Labour get in; Starmer resembles the B***r-creature, not the Corbynmonster). In particular Ben Wallace (supposedly the current lead candidate) is as much or even more of an Atlanticist bloodbeast than Boris. Liz Truss too.

pretty sick what my country has ended up being, really.

Yeah! Why should the Ukrainians fight for their homeland?!?! They should just give it up like England did to Germany in WWII, right?



Oh, wait....

 

[Snowblindlove]

Yeah! Why should the Ukrainians fight for their homeland?!?! They should just give it up like England did to Germany in WWII, right?



Oh, wait....

Half of Ukraine wants to be liberated and tried to gain peaceful autonomy and were killed. And suppressed with martial Law. Banderites set on fire protesters in Odessa in 2014 post Maidan coup among many other crimes

Parties outlawed

 

[Badr Hari]

Half of Ukraine wants to be liberated and tried to gain peaceful autonomy and were killed. And suppressed with martial Law. Banderites set on fire protesters in Odessa in 2014 post Maidan coup among many other crimes

Parties outlawed

That's a straight up lie from you. Even in the last election, almost three years before Feb 24th the pro-russian party got around 13% of the votes. After Feb 24th that percentage has been shrinking multiple times. More than 90% of ukrainians today (including russian speakers) hate Russia as we speak.

 

[MeatheadMike]

President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that if the West wanted to defeat Russia on the battlefield, it was welcome to try.

Russia was just getting started in Ukraine, Putin said in a hawkish speech to parliamentary leaders, and the prospects for any negotiation would grow dimmer the longer the conflict dragged on.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-beat-us-battlefield-let-them-try-2022-07-07/

USA vs Russia, battlefield only... no nukes, make it happen uncle Vlad.

Yea, he'd never agree to that.

 

[Strychnine]

Half of Ukraine wants to be liberated and tried to gain peaceful autonomy and were killed. And suppressed with martial Law. Banderites set on fire protesters in Odessa in 2014 post Maidan coup among many other crimes

Parties outlawed

Yeah, rebellion against a sovereign government usually doesn't work out so well for the rebels. You're acting like British parliament would be ok if Sheffield decided to become their own country within Britain.

Come on man.

 

[Strychnine]

That's a straight up lie from you. Even in the last election, almost three years before Feb 24th the pro-russian party got around 13% of the votes. After Feb 24th that percentage has been shrinking multiple times. More than 90% of ukrainians today (including russian speakers) hate Russia as we speak.

Truth^

Ukraine wants to look towards the EU and not Russia. That's the choice the Ukrainian people made and no one else has any say on how they want to live.

 

[Snowblindlove]

That's a straight up lie from you. Even in the last election, almost three years before Feb 24th the pro-russian party got around 13% of the votes. After Feb 24th that percentage has been shrinking multiple times. More than 90% of ukrainians today (including russian speakers) hate Russia as we speak.

Truth^

Ukraine wants to look towards the EU and not Russia. That's the choice the Ukrainian people made and no one else has any say on how they want to live.

Because he and the ukrianian regime made the party true opposition illegal! Do you want me to pull up the links noting that and suppression of the vote?

In 2014
In 2010
In 2006
In 2002 elections

The country was very nearly split. All those elections 2010, etc were considered fair by the US and EU even.


I mean seriously look at pre 2013 and 2014 results and mass protests that were suppress and years of martial law declared in Odessa and Kharkov

 

[SandisLL]

No they dont, maybe on a personal level but the religions them self do not preach reincarnation.

At least some branches of hinduism preach reincarnation but according to them ....you should mandatory meet criteria like this: to have hinduist mother and father.
No one else route there is allowed...
No one else! Never and nothing will change there.
Europeans in these breliefs are considered automatically as warriors cast.
This in short means that you are allowed to do almost everything if you will not compete for priest/ religion's teacher role....
Bramin level you NEVER will get...

It is really short hinduism explanation and in hindusim white europeans are more restricted than in judaism or islam....

Judaism usually define roots from....mother...
Islam; like christian confessions it is act of promise and belief. Color and nationality here doesn't matter...

 

[Snowblindlove]

Yeah, rebellion against a sovereign government usually doesn't work out so well for the rebels. You're acting like British parliament would be ok if Sheffield decided to become their own country within Britain.

Come on man.

This isnt at all similar. And in general I support all peaceful secessions worldwide or desires for autonomy. You get a violent reaction when you go all imperialist use violence and force people you dont like to be ruled by you. It was Kiev that rejected the Minsk accords even noted by the Germans

 

[Strychnine]

This isnt at all similar. And in general I support all peaceful secessions worldwide or desires for autonomy. You get a violent reaction when you go all imperialist use violence and force people you dont like to be ruled by you. It was Kiev that rejected the Minsk accords even noted by the Germans

As is Kyiv's right to do so. Their government is in charge of Ukraine, not some "separatist region." If the separatists don't like it, they are free to move to Russia. You just can't take land from your government and expect zero repercussions. I didn't like the snow and cold winters in Wyoming, USA, so I moved.

This isn't hard.

 

[SandisLL]

This isnt at all similar. And in general I support all peaceful secessions worldwide or desires for autonomy. You get a violent reaction when you go all imperialist use violence and force people you dont like to be ruled by you. It was Kiev that rejected the Minsk accords even noted by the Germans

Germans historically were killers and occupants in Europe.

All treaties signed by Kremlin are lesser worth than piece of manure.

Historically had been proved multiple times.


Most notable piece of manure was bum Stalin.
He via lend lease had get >400 000 trucks from Western enemies and xxxx more stuff...

West had really sold to gypsy georgian Stalin part of Europe.
They even had made this gypsy georgian bum free from loans and return obligations for stuff he get via lend lease.


Thank you from Russia was........
Real Russia!
Demand to cede West Berlin to Russia and ....to agree with break up of Yalt and 1945 th agreements with west.

Satan had told; I might deal with West via famine in West Berlin when he announced blockade after western lads then weren't pussies and didn't allowed Russia to annex West Berlin....

Cold war had started and there here today it is new 1938 th with Hitler or maybe 1948/1949 th with Joseph Stalin.

You are capable to suck dick and nutrition wild animal and hope that they are....humans...
They never will be...
In best case will be with rats level IQ.
Today rats IMHO does have better IQ than Kremlin...

 

[GhostZ06]

So the Russians announced a new tank... an they havent even gotten the kinks worked out on the T-14 let alone gotten it into Full rate production
It's a direct response to the new KF panther and EMBT 130mm gun tanks (though the French want a 140mm cannon). It looks like a supercharged T-90 for sure.
But after watching a shit load of videos on the Russian corruption in putins circle and in the ministry of Defense, i doubt this thing will be any good.








Only thing that annoys me is that US army needs to stop fucking with the Abrams and find a replacement considering its to the point where its so god damn heavy. And over all is NOT design For the modern battlefield with the rise of drones and new anti tank weapons. I think the KF51 would be a great fit for the US army.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

So the Russians announced a new tank... an they havent even gotten the kinks worked out on the T-14 let alone gotten it into Full rate production
It's a direct response to the new KF panther and EMBT 130mm gun tanks (though the French want a 140mm cannon). It looks like a supercharged T-90 for sure.
But after watching a shit load of videos on the Russian corruption in putins circle and in the ministry of Defense, i doubt this thing will be any good.








Only thing that annoys me is that US army needs to stop fucking with the Abrams and find a replacement considering its to the point where its so god damn heavy. And over all is NOT design For the modern battlefield with the rise of drones and new anti tank weapons. I think the KF51 would be a great fit for the US army.

Any tank that's not the King Tiger is a shit tank.

 

[Orgasmo]

So the Russians announced a new tank... an they havent even gotten the kinks worked out on the T-14 let alone gotten it into Full rate production
It's a direct response to the new KF panther and EMBT 130mm gun tanks (though the French want a 140mm cannon). It looks like a supercharged T-90 for sure.
But after watching a shit load of videos on the Russian corruption in putins circle and in the ministry of Defense, i doubt this thing will be any good.

The actual problem was not that their tanks were shit, since some of them received fairly modern upgrades. Their units did not conduct proper training with their upgraded toys (i.e T-72B3 and T-80BVM) to utilize them effectively. Ukraine captured several Russian tanks and found new thermal sights and fire control systems wrapped in plastic covers.

 

[SandisLL]

King Tiger then was tank with advanced high pressure riffled barrel cannon.
Modern tanks for fighting vs tanks uses A) specialised shells B) missiles launched from barrel.
Mainly smoothbore guns and they are shit in distance longer than ~ 5000 meters....
They really are complete shit if compare with 152 mm or 155 mm rifled bore cannons if you will need distance longer than ~ 5000 meters....

Armata is shit with unmanned tower and dazzlers + smoke and electronic warfare stuff + active etc armour...
+ crew in hull + unmanned turret + autoloader like in T-72, T-64, T-80 or T-84 or T-90 versions.
Most likely might accept longer shells....


Basically looks like bat for peasants....
T-90 upgrade....