Russia/Ukraine Megathread V5

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nostradumbass said:
Yeah, I got it. It was always politics, and never had anything to do with any public health threat. It's exactly what half of us said 2 year ago, welcome to the conversation.
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I wouldn’t even go as far as to say it was politics for me. It’s simply a case of not believing an exception should be made for an athlete where it wouldn’t be made for an average joe.

That exception should be made for people fleeing war.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
What country are you from? You start of saying Zelensky is wrong for not capitulating to save innocent lives even though it's Putin that initiated the killing, then you claimed Zelensky is just corrupt and responsible for this war, and now your anti-American sentiment is showing.
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It’s not anti American to say that they killed innocent s from Irak … it’s just a truth
 
Source said:
He needs pictures of the deceased holding todays Moscow Herald, their military ID, a signed notarized letter from their mother's otherwise it’s all fake.
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Yeah. There was a pretty funny fake social media appearance by Magomed Tushayev btw.
 
Zinger said:
I don't know for sure, everything that happens in Ukraine, I draw parallels to what has been going on in my country.

Our pro russian party has links to Russia and putin's party, there used to be an actual written agreement of corporation between the two, it was openly known.

Their party leader used to be the mayor of Riga (our capital city) for a decade, and now is a member of Euro Parliament.

That party in general has been getting the most votes in our elections for the past 15 years. All the Babushkas vote for them.

Why wouldn't Russians have the same pull in the Ukraine?
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That's why now that Russia has declared war they would sever those ties he has to the government. Putin is a known dictator. If Zelensky attempting the same then it will become apparent soon enough. I don't think barring the Russian party in his government qualifies.
 
Dexter said:
I actually prefer 1917 when Latvians and Russians fought together as brothers for comrade Lenin's dream and the World Revolution.

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But look at how you're treating the Latvians now. :(
 
Yotsuya said:
Would be pretty easy to prove Ukrainian propaganda wrong though.
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Lazy mofos from RAF PR section showed us 80+ "undead" border guards from the Snake Island only on the 3rd or even the 4th day of the operation. Meanwhile Ukrainians were claiming there were only 13 of them, and already dead. So, it came as no surprise to me that they are showing us nothing.
 
So I will start to talk about real nazism in Riga, so loved by dudes like Dexter ( sadly basically this nice guy is Putin clone if we are talking about Kremlin ).
NATO countries does knows since 2008 th about funding for internal and external propaganda against Batic countries cos Russia wants to annex them again and kill ppl, also to get Berlin in their hands again.

Russia does have their own story about bad ppl in Baltic countries, while russians in these countries does not rush to relocate to Russia, despite according to Zirinoski and Putin they are oppressed and so scared.

1 st chapter Jew in Baltic countries.
When in 1939 th dumb Baltic governments believed Kremlin's promises ( they are less worth than piece of shit and always were ), they agreed to install Soviet military bases in their countries cos gyp*y& georgian's Joseph Stalin ultimatum.

2 nd chapter: enough smart ppl, a lot of the same latvians ( hated nation by russians btw ), jews and baltic germans had decided to travel aboard until it is not too late.
It is assumed that at least 500 jews, > 1000 baltic germans and approx 1000 latvians had traveled aboard from the same Riga.
They were smart.

3 rd chapter: 1940/1941 th Joseph Stalin ordered to confiscate internal enemies property and nationalize too " rich " ppl property, also to send to GULAG enemies.
From the same Riga, now claimed by Kremlin as enemy city, Soviets in 1940-1941 had placed in GULAG more than 10000 enemies, more than 2000 were executed ASAP, btw not less than 1000 jews too had traveled to GULAG empire.

This was before Nazis had arrived in this Riga. Yeah, russians does not love to talk about confiscations, fast courts, nationalizations, sending ppl as slaves to GULAG empire and ofc also exectued quickly too.

Btw, main criteria in 1940-1941 th was social class and property you had, had you been aboard, knew multiple foreign languages.
Since Jews in Riga usually had in worst case social class like self employed shoemaker etc, they were not casual working class lower end and cos this suffered a lot.
Lost jobs in best case, then ofc confiscations, nationalizations, GULAG, fast quick courts.

Russian propaganda train doesn't mention also russians who had confiscated property in the same Riga.
One for example was factory owner.
 
Dexter said:
Lazy mofos from RAF PR section showed us 80+ "undead" border guards from the Snake Island only on the 3rd or even the 4th day of the operation. Meanwhile Ukrainians were claiming there were only 13 of them, and already dead. So, it came as no surprise to me that they are showing us nothing.
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Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island were pretty obvious memes from the start.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
What country are you from? You start of saying Zelensky is wrong for not capitulating to save innocent lives even though it's Putin that initiated the killing, then you claimed Zelensky is just corrupt and responsible for this war, and now your anti-American sentiment is showing.
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I'm from somewhere in Europe.

I am not anti American, just pointing out the hypocrisy. When your country does it it's ok (assuming you are American), but when another country does it it's wrong. I hate double standards. The world should boycott America like they are boycotting Russia.
 
Khabib Khanate said:
I don't know where you get the idea that most of the rest of the world is on Russia's side. Not denying it to be fair and I've done plenty of bellyaching in these threads about the double standards in regards to military interventions by the West when compared to Russia and also how the non-West gneerally views geopolitics more cynically than the West.

I also don't agree that Russia gets nothing vital from the West. Technology transfers are a big deal and we can see how some high tech gadgets sent to Ukraine are allowing it to disrupt the Russian war effort based on outdated tech and tactics. Not enough to save them of course buts its a key lesson here. Foreign investment is also important and this crisis is going to reduce confidence in the Russian market.

There is a general anti-West bloc forming here behind Russia with countries like China and India either remaining neutral or tacitly helping the Russians. And even among the West there are leaders who are sympathetic to Russia like Orban. But overall I think this excursion is going to be a long term strategic failure even if short to medium term objectives are achieved
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https://cryptohayes.medium.com/energy-cancelled-e9f9e53a50cd

In my humble opinion, as the world's reserve currency issuer we should be more thoughtful about reducing confidence in our financial institutions.
 
Based purely off of human and material losses compared to other conflicts it’s pretty bad.
 
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