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Rus telegram has confirmed it too. All crew is dead. Looks like Ukr air defense shot it down, near Romania border!
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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15
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Rus telegram has confirmed it too. All crew is dead. Looks like Ukr air defense shot it down, near Romania border!
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He should be happy As Gerasimov declared Kypiansk liberated again. Shouldn't someone have to fall out of a window for the obvious lies?
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You guys see that the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies Robert Pera is connected to a drone company supplying equipment to Russia? The company is called Ubiquiti.
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Yes, the report is that they're supplying up to 80% of the frontline link up equipment used to control the drones.
with russian drones mainly are 3 problems :
1. drones with fiber optic cables... on these radioelectronic warfare stations doesn't works ...also they doesn't emmit radio waves therefore radio listening stations aren 't usable to spot them....
On these does works acoustic listening stations in order detect noise. However counter measures are to use propellers and engine - propeller blocks creating lesser noise.
Ofc these are more expensive too and requires high precision assmebly, installation etc...
1. drones with fiber optic cables... on these radioelectronic warfare stations doesn't works ...also they doesn't emmit radio waves therefore radio listening stations aren 't usable to spot them....
On these does works acoustic listening stations in order detect noise. However counter measures are to use propellers and engine - propeller blocks creating lesser noise.
Ofc these are more expensive too and requires high precision assmebly, installation etc...
Shahed type drones.
☆ russia is using different type of upgrades.
● most common is to use crpa type antennas with now even 8, 16 or in some cases 24 antennas.
This reduces jamming and spoofing effect on them....
☆ russia is using different type of upgrades.
● most common is to use crpa type antennas with now even 8, 16 or in some cases 24 antennas.
This reduces jamming and spoofing effect on them....
Shahed type drones.
■ next variant is to use them almost like FPVs : install cameras and mesh type modems.
While this is really expensive solution, it allows to create groups of drones located in different areas and use caining to grt longer effective radio contact range....
While mesh modems usually might provide 40-100 km link range, if multiple drones are chained then mesh modems drone might reach Lvov for example...
■ next variant is to use them almost like FPVs : install cameras and mesh type modems.
While this is really expensive solution, it allows to create groups of drones located in different areas and use caining to grt longer effective radio contact range....
While mesh modems usually might provide 40-100 km link range, if multiple drones are chained then mesh modems drone might reach Lvov for example...
Shahed type drones.
Upgrade version variant...
♤ install cameras and Starlink terminal.
Before get in Ukr airspace drone might be inertially guided so radioelectronic warfare doesn't work on it.
Later might switch ON sattelite nav ( pre progam time when to switch on ) with this crpa antenna.
A bit later switch ON Starlink terminal and operator might watch cameras and guide drone manually... if needed.
Upgrade version variant...
♤ install cameras and Starlink terminal.
Before get in Ukr airspace drone might be inertially guided so radioelectronic warfare doesn't work on it.
Later might switch ON sattelite nav ( pre progam time when to switch on ) with this crpa antenna.
A bit later switch ON Starlink terminal and operator might watch cameras and guide drone manually... if needed.
Shahed type drones upgrade variants are also :
To install small turbojet engine instead of internal combustion engine.
☆ this does have advantage in order to reduce mobile teams equipped with machine guns effectivity and seriously.
It depends : is target 120-200 km/ h OR 400 + km /h.
However disatvantages are a lot.
1. Engine price considerably higher.
2. Thermal signature is considerably higher than from this cssual engine shaheds does use... therefore easier to detect with thermal seekers, easy peasy to lock on them even USSR Gorbachev era Igla MANPAD etc type of MANPADS.....
3. IF drone is guided manually, easier is to guide slower drone with high precision than faster drone...
4. If drone is used in super low flight mode: the slower is drone, the more time operator does have to choose path and if some mistake more chances to correct a bit in order to prevent drone to fly in tree etc obstacles....
So slower = better....
Plus a lot of old radars are tailored to ignore small really slow objects....in order not to get mesh cos birds. Ofc stuff like fast object, not alone helicopter will trigger system and display alert + distribute alert for network too.
small, SLOW low flying drone with fuselage from cheap plastics etc or wood. IST helicopter or cruise missile or large drone..
To install small turbojet engine instead of internal combustion engine.
☆ this does have advantage in order to reduce mobile teams equipped with machine guns effectivity and seriously.
It depends : is target 120-200 km/ h OR 400 + km /h.
However disatvantages are a lot.
1. Engine price considerably higher.
2. Thermal signature is considerably higher than from this cssual engine shaheds does use... therefore easier to detect with thermal seekers, easy peasy to lock on them even USSR Gorbachev era Igla MANPAD etc type of MANPADS.....
3. IF drone is guided manually, easier is to guide slower drone with high precision than faster drone...
4. If drone is used in super low flight mode: the slower is drone, the more time operator does have to choose path and if some mistake more chances to correct a bit in order to prevent drone to fly in tree etc obstacles....
So slower = better....
Plus a lot of old radars are tailored to ignore small really slow objects....in order not to get mesh cos birds. Ofc stuff like fast object, not alone helicopter will trigger system and display alert + distribute alert for network too.
small, SLOW low flying drone with fuselage from cheap plastics etc or wood. IST helicopter or cruise missile or large drone..
BTW interesting stuff is that it is very difficult to find good helicopters pilots ...especially if job will be with low altitude flights...
For military very effective stuff how to use helicopters in war is to fly as low as it is possible: each meter of altitude makes big sense : the lower is flying helicopter, the more difficult is to detect it with radar...and when will detect, it will be considerably later..
# however both civies and military helicopters pilots does knows shit IF shit will happen.
1. The lower altitude does have helicopter : lesser chances and time to correct mistskes or to reduce damages effect on flight course, direction and altitude...m
2. Autorotation isn't hope if alitude is very low....
For military very effective stuff how to use helicopters in war is to fly as low as it is possible: each meter of altitude makes big sense : the lower is flying helicopter, the more difficult is to detect it with radar...and when will detect, it will be considerably later..
# however both civies and military helicopters pilots does knows shit IF shit will happen.
1. The lower altitude does have helicopter : lesser chances and time to correct mistskes or to reduce damages effect on flight course, direction and altitude...m
2. Autorotation isn't hope if alitude is very low....
Starlink usage by Russian military and KGB.
# in general Putin does hate Starlink to be used in Russia because for KGB it very difficult to monitor terminals usage in depth.
Unless they manage install spyware on PC etc like stuff.
♡ Howver in Ukraine they are very usable for Russia too, not only for Ukr.
therefore they are importing Starlink terminals via parralel import chains and are activating them only when terminal had left Russia controlled areas.
# they are using civilian middlemans in different countries.
These are purchasing terminals as casual civies.
Then they ofc are adding to price their profit % ofc and then next middlemans are shipping them further...
For this ofc again a lot of $ should be paid cos custom declarations doesn't shows that these are Starlink terminals ofc. ..
For fake fills in formulars too $ should be paid additionally.
Russia doesn't tolerate official Stralink import....
Then terminals are in specialists hands and get activated only when already are in Ukr.
# in general Putin does hate Starlink to be used in Russia because for KGB it very difficult to monitor terminals usage in depth.
Unless they manage install spyware on PC etc like stuff.
♡ Howver in Ukraine they are very usable for Russia too, not only for Ukr.
therefore they are importing Starlink terminals via parralel import chains and are activating them only when terminal had left Russia controlled areas.
# they are using civilian middlemans in different countries.
These are purchasing terminals as casual civies.
Then they ofc are adding to price their profit % ofc and then next middlemans are shipping them further...
For this ofc again a lot of $ should be paid cos custom declarations doesn't shows that these are Starlink terminals ofc. ..
For fake fills in formulars too $ should be paid additionally.
Russia doesn't tolerate official Stralink import....
Then terminals are in specialists hands and get activated only when already are in Ukr.
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Latest Rybar post:
The enemy once again took advantage of the "gift" of false statements—this time about the ongoing cleansing of Kupyansk-Uzlovy.
Following official reports from the area, a Ukrainian officer—the commander of the 413th Separate Rifle Battalion—appeared publicly there. The battalion commander (and battalion commanders rarely personally attend "flag-waving" events) walked past the Zheleznodorozhnik Cultural Center and the Ukrposhta branch on Darvina Street, citing the current date.
Colleagues have already noted that no sounds of combat can be heard in the published footage, and the Ukrainian unit member is wearing neither a helmet nor a bulletproof vest. Furthermore, numerous tracks and ruts are clearly visible in the snow, indicating a fairly calm situation. And all because the nearest stable positions of the Russian Armed Forces are 10 kilometers away or more.
Apparently, these are traces of those very "heavy forces" that, according to today's extremely inept anti-crisis statement, Ukrainian forces allegedly deployed to Kupyansk-Uzlovaya to stabilize the situation.
However, the situation is quite clear. In this case, the only hope is that people won't be sent one-way to attempt a refutation. The situation in this direction remains extremely difficult, but not hopeless.
P.S. Yesterday, the entire country's leadership shook hands with the investigation into other false reports: the current Syrian president was declared by the Russian Ministry of Defense to have lost his arm during an assassination attempt almost 10 years ago.
The enemy once again took advantage of the "gift" of false statements—this time about the ongoing cleansing of Kupyansk-Uzlovy.
Following official reports from the area, a Ukrainian officer—the commander of the 413th Separate Rifle Battalion—appeared publicly there. The battalion commander (and battalion commanders rarely personally attend "flag-waving" events) walked past the Zheleznodorozhnik Cultural Center and the Ukrposhta branch on Darvina Street, citing the current date.
Colleagues have already noted that no sounds of combat can be heard in the published footage, and the Ukrainian unit member is wearing neither a helmet nor a bulletproof vest. Furthermore, numerous tracks and ruts are clearly visible in the snow, indicating a fairly calm situation. And all because the nearest stable positions of the Russian Armed Forces are 10 kilometers away or more.
Apparently, these are traces of those very "heavy forces" that, according to today's extremely inept anti-crisis statement, Ukrainian forces allegedly deployed to Kupyansk-Uzlovaya to stabilize the situation.
However, the situation is quite clear. In this case, the only hope is that people won't be sent one-way to attempt a refutation. The situation in this direction remains extremely difficult, but not hopeless.
P.S. Yesterday, the entire country's leadership shook hands with the investigation into other false reports: the current Syrian president was declared by the Russian Ministry of Defense to have lost his arm during an assassination attempt almost 10 years ago.
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Wonder if Russia will honor anything that is agreed too.
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The lying is baffling considering Gerasimov just recently talked about how they control Kupiansk and have set up check points to get into the city.
The question is at what level is the lying being done? I really dont think Gerasimov would lie directly to Putlers face like that.
