International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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Ruthless Ryan said:
That's just it, Russia has no real answer to the modern war of the drone age.
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...but Ukraine does?
Ruthless Ryan said:
However this war is more difficult to them as they still do armor, meat, charges of all sorts but the results have been slow and loses high.
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That is because they have not leveled large cities in Ukraine with conventional missiles. Had they done that, this conflict would have ended in 2022. Be thankful Putin has not yet taken that route. ...and the west won't do shit if he does.
Ruthless Ryan said:
The peace talks are a waste of time as Putler cannot stop this war until he has at least his 4 oblasts so the soaking up of bullets and drones will continue.
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Putin has 5 Ukrainian oblasts. Russia is currently working on maybe getting 4 more oblasts.
Your view of "everything is possible for Ukraine, but nothing is possible for Russia" is completely warped.
Same for claiming that the Russian economy is going to collapse.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Gave you the like but Hamas started the war, not all the civilians that have been killed in this disproportionate war, Netanyahu is no better than Putin.
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I hear you. But Hamas at the time of their terrorist acts represented the Gazan people as their official government and a select few Gazans are Hamas. There's an inextricable link. The actions of Hamas set off the calamity that befell the ordinary Gazans. But I get the nuance of what you're saying and yes Bibi and his ministers have taken the war too far and probably belong in jail for the actions.
 
DEVILsSON said:
I hear you. But Hamas at the time of their terrorist acts represented the Gazan people as their official government and a select few Gazans are Hamas. There's an inextricable link. The actions of Hamas set off the calamity that befell the ordinary Gazans. But I get the nuance of what you're saying and yes Bibi and his ministers have taken the war too far and probably belong in jail for the actions.
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Yes, when Oct 7 happened and Hamas invaded and killed ,destroyed and took hostages the streets of Gaza were celebrating and cheering the killing...until they realized they fucked around and found out.
how far Israel took it is a different debate but they did celebrate the war at first.
 
DEVILsSON said:
I hear you. But Hamas at the time of their terrorist acts represented the Gazan people as their official government and a select few Gazans are Hamas. There's an inextricable link. The actions of Hamas set off the calamity that befell the ordinary Gazans. But I get the nuance of what you're saying and yes Bibi and his ministers have taken the war too far and probably belong in jail for the actions.
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Hamas was voted into office once and then killed the opposition and became a dictatorship. They have support from other Islamist groups but I wouldn't say with certainty that a Gazan majority supports them.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Yes, when Oct 7 happened and Hamas invaded and killed ,destroyed and took hostages the streets of Gaza were celebrating and cheering the killing...until they realized they fucked around and found out.
how far Israel took it is a different debate but they did celebrate the war at first.
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Maybe you're right but this reminds me of Trump claiming New Jersey Islamists were cheering 9/11 on their rooftops. Hamas deserves to be decimated for their crimes on 10/7 but Netanyahu has just turned this into a genocide and land grab.
 


The invaders forgot that Ukrainian drones have night vision and its now winter.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Hamas was voted into office once and then killed the opposition and became a dictatorship. They have support from other Islamist groups but I wouldn't say with certainty that a Gazan majority supports them.
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You could make a convincing case for other governments/leaders as well but for all intents and purposes they were it. It is no different from all the dictators who represent other nations without fair elections. I don't think Putin is a legitimate leader of Russia because they haven't had fair election in years and even their constitution to allow him to serve again was a sham. The same was the case in Syria. Iranian elections are a sham and the Supreme Leader runs the country. Hussein was the same thing. Even our allies run by literal unelected theocratic monarchies. The actions of these leaders still represent the people of those nations for better or worse. It's a shitty situation no doubt if you're one of the people there and the government does something fucked up and you have to bear the consequences.
 
ChessJitsu said:
80% approval rating
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Those are rookie numbers. Kim Jong Un has 100%. Putin should strive to be perceived as a literal god maybe then he wouldn't have these pedestrian approval numbers.....

Imagine living and having grown up in the US, having been educated in the US, having access to all the world's unrestricted information(which you can presumably read in at least two languages) and yet unironically telling us about Putin's 80% approval ratings. Bravo.
 
DEVILsSON said:
Those are rookie numbers. Kim Jong Un has 100%. Putin should strive to be perceived as a literal god maybe then he wouldn't have these pedestrian approval numbers.....

Imagine living and having grown up in the US, having been educated in the US, having access to all the world's unrestricted information(which you can presumably read in at least two languages) and yet unironically telling us about Putin's 80% approval ratings. Bravo.
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he's legitametely popular there, it's verified in internationally approved statistic collection processes
 
DEVILsSON said:
And I bet you were dead serious when you wrote this...🤦
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ChessJitsu said:
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Wow so Western media outlets and sources are trustworthy when you think it's helping you craft some narrative however otherwise we're all morons for believing the Western lies when it comes to everything else like what's happening in the war in Ukraine...

I love the way your mind works.
 
DEVILsSON said:
Wow so Western media outlets and sources are trustworthy when you think it's helping you craft some narrative however otherwise we're all morons for believing the Western lies when it comes to everything else like what's happening in the war in Ukraine...

I love the way your mind works.
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Didn't he say his mom won a lottery green card to get out of Russian hell state? Maybe go back if it's that great, take San Marino with you...
 
DEVILsSON said:
You could make a convincing case for other governments/leaders as well but for all intents and purposes they were it. It is no different from all the dictators who represent other nations without fair elections. I don't think Putin is a legitimate leader of Russia because they haven't had fair election in years and even their constitution to allow him to serve again was a sham. The same was the case in Syria. Iranian elections are a sham and the Supreme Leader runs the country. Hussein was the same thing. Even our allies run by literal unelected theocratic monarchies. The actions of these leaders still represent the people of those nations for better or worse. It's a shitty situation no doubt if you're one of the people there and the government does something fucked up and you have to bear the consequences.
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Bro, I completely agree, I'm saying their actions shouldn't subject every citizen to genocide. Netanyahu is as bad as Putin and is just looking for a land grab with his warhawk government.
 
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