International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

oh theyll benfit from it as you know.

With Ukraine creating a new type of warfare with their drone assaults and unconventional tactics inside of Russia itself, it would behoove the West to have Ukraine on our side going forward. They've shown they have spines of titanium. Provide them the tools and they'll do the work.
 
You'd have to jail or execute so many Russians just to get a fraction of the corruption out of government. It would be insane.
True, but what can you do with this country after this ends and of course how this ends will determine what to do with them. The status quo dealing with them isnt working need something more long term like Japan and Germany after WW2. and yes I realize with the corruption and the potential power vacuum this wont get better any time soon.
 
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Literally everyone agrees to this, on these terms and points. JFC, what a dumb article. Nobody has said otherwise.

"Key Points - As of May 2025, an assessment of the war in Ukraine across key metrics—territorial control, military manpower, and supply chains—indicates Russia maintains significant advantages. Russian forces occupy approximately 18.7% of Ukrainian territory and continue to make incremental gains.



-While both sides have suffered heavy casualties, Russia's larger population pool and ongoing recruitment efforts allow it to sustain higher troop levels for a more extended period.

-Critically, Russia's defense industrial base demonstrates greater self-sufficiency, particularly in ammunition production, whereas Ukraine remains heavily reliant on Western aid, the long-term consistency of which is uncertain.

-By these measures, Ukraine is not currently winning the conflict.
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"BY THESE MEASURES"

This is like graphs and statistics, you can make them to fit any narrative you want, regardless of the bigger picture.



But you knew this, right? Lmao, you are a pathetic poster man. So do tell us when Russia will secure all of the regions stated in their SMO. When they will de-nazify and de-militarize Ukraine. This year? Next year? 2-3 years down the road?


Nobody has ever stated Ukraine has better military production capabilities. Nobody has ever stated they have more bodies to conscript. Nobody has ever stated they have better supply chains on the front lines.

They HAVE stated that it is possible for Ukraine to hold the lines and keep Russia from achieving their goals WITH AID, which is what has happened the past 3 years. Stop being disingenuous when posting, its a bad look.
He's been spinning for 3 years now. UkR should have been out of troops years ago according to him. posts almost word for word the same article for every week or so basically saying UKR is doomed.
 
Literally everyone agrees to this, on these terms and points. Nobody has said otherwise.
Really?
I don't know where you have been buddy or where you are coming from, but 97% of folks in this thread believe Ukraine is beating Russia and keeping it from taking over all of Ukraine. They believe that with enough time Russia will collapse and all of Ukraine will be recovered.
This is like graphs and statistics, you can make them to fit any narrative you want, regardless of the bigger picture.
No, you cannot. What a stupid statement. Since when is 2 + 2 = 5?
Lmao, you are a pathetic poster man.
...and so are you.
Nobody has ever stated Ukraine has better military production capabilities. Nobody has ever stated they have more bodies to conscript. Nobody has ever stated they have better supply chains on the front lines.
Yes, they have. How long have you been reading this thread? Did you start today? 🤣
They HAVE stated that it is possible for Ukraine to hold the lines and keep Russia from achieving their goals WITH AID, which is what has happened the past 3 years.
How about the Russian 'crutches' Brigade, the donkeys, and the scooters?
They have been saying that Ukraine is a much better equipped, trained, and supplied Army. They are not and time will show that. Ukraine has already lost 45% of its Army in three years of war. They are not getting that back. Russia is adding the equivalent of two (2) Divisions per month to the conflict. How many Divisions is Ukraine adding to the conflict a month?
He's been spinning for 3 years now. UkR should have been out of troops years ago according to him. posts almost word for word the same article for every week or so basically saying UKR is doomed.
Careful Ryan. You are about to lose your bet to me in another 3 days. Your predictions from January were wrong and mine were right. How about that! San Marino was right after all. Plus, I post statements, counterarguments, videos, and articles. I guess you selectively chose to skip over those posts.
 
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They are not and time will show that.
Any day now huh?

Your predictions are proving right you say? Which predictions and what bet are you winning? I’d be curious to see if you’ve managed to finally get something right
 
Well, if there wasn't kleptocracy and incompetence....
Yes, backed by North Korea and Belarus plus Iran Russia should had be able to occupy all Ukraine long ago. If we bear in mind that North Korea, Iran and Belarus are not doing this cos money ....westerners doesn't see real motivation here....different mindset... dreaming.
If we do know that west does supply Ukr a bit bit in moments when they think that Ukr will go complete 404 quickly....
Otherwise it isn't even top 5 problem for western european politicians, not alone that not top 20 for U.S politicians...
Even then just cos secondary outcome not Ukr stuff....

Ofc russians and ukr are really delusional that it is some kind of battle west vs east etc dreamers plancton...

& Russia is neo imperialistic with mindset like feodals had 1000 years ago.
They maybe might bear Ukraine if Ukr had been ruled for example by someone like Lukashenko....
Yes, might tell in position like king vs vassal.. maybe some baron, duke type etc...

If no, then better to incorporate.

Since now looks that to take all Ukr will not be possible, then more realistic outcome till next war will be : as I had posted in 2022 th : part of Ukr will be russia, part till next war in dreams and debts....real fun will start.

Then ofc part of Ukr russia till complete incorporation wants to see ruled by someone like Lukashenko...yes...
 
If someone does have brains not more than sheep...then he is toy.

Ukr hope on west mainly is dream.
Ukr had propaganded that they might produce this and this...while actually had deMilitarization.
In west they had cryed that west doesn't sell them heavy weapons etc...even in autumn 2021 th..
For Ukr : roads repair programs and museums.... and tales for dreams.

This...they might be happy that russia get into mad mode yelling and filling with refugees..
Otherwise Ukr maybe had get 2014 th level stuff.. of russia had just pushed in dumbass and didn't had dreamed too much.
 
BTW these years long noise about Taurus etc is ....empty bubble.
Russia does fear from europe not cos this...they fear that europe for example might supply ukr a lot of mines and cluster ammo. Then will be more difficult to take more land....
 
Ofc, if Ukr will get more Ssh and maybe Taurus, russia will get forced on more expenses... i.e to keep in air AWACS and airplanes 24/7 mode.
 
As if looks that euro supplied cruise missiles at first were export versions and manufactured 10+ years ago so definitely not wunderwaffe ....
For usage usually groups with drones with different groups from different directions and altitude & speed + decoy missiles more like 1988- 1992- 1994 th prodiction...refubrished...


Su -24 pylon might bear 1400 kg weight... connection is just cables and adapter...not super programming....

One stuff is will they have decoys missiles.
For example 1988- 1994 th models stuff or no.
Europe usually uses U.S manufactured stuff for this...

IMHO , maybe for 2 Taurus some 4 - 8 decoys, better if 16, and 100- 200 - 300 drones...
Something like this.
 
MTCR even isn't treaty...it is small actually peace of shit used by top countries in order to prevent plebs ( customers ) to purchase missiles with range longer than 300 km and / or warhead heavier than 500 kg.
lesser: good cow to milk in dairy farm dry if possible.

So SK does have Taurus export version with <300 km range and it is hardware limited.

Germany does have Taurus with 550- 560 km range and 482 kg warhead.

They might reduce range by increasing warhead weight and decreasing fuel reserves , ofc with this also range...

To solve this problem does cost a lot cos balance should be re designed and calculated etc... ofc they most likely will not waste € for this.... they also loves Matushka.

Maybe if they does have export versions then maybe will supply something.
Stuff then will be 2006- 2012 th design...
 
Trump had signed sheduled shifting orders for AWACS partols in EU/EEZ area and obiviously most likely had increased number of booked air refueling tankers for these tasks...
 
Some hours earlier Russia had established de facto physical control in Sumy oblastj approx 118.5 sq km² with potential for advance and they does have approx 11.5 sq km² physical control in Harkov oblastj.


Plus positions are bad...I think that by 90% russia will be able to keep these lands peaces. Especially if will dig in and use pros to lay minefields....
 
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