International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15


The future of Ukraine is complex and multifaceted, marked by ongoing conflict and challenges, but also with signs of resilience and potential for growth. While the war with Russia has severely damaged Ukraine's infrastructure and economy, there are indications that the country is making progress in some areas, including economic recovery and technological advancement. However, significant challenges remain, including the ongoing war, the need for substantial investment in rebuilding, and the threat of continued Russian aggression.

The war has caused significant economic damage, with the World Bank estimating Ukraine will need at least $524 billion over the next decade to repair and rebuild.

Ukraine faces a difficult future with significant challenges related to the ongoing war, economic recovery, and political stability. However, there are also signs of resilience, economic growth, and technological advancement. The future of Ukraine will depend on a combination of factors, including the outcome of the war, the level of international support, and the ability of Ukrainians to rebuild and adapt to the new reality.

With Russia intensifying its attacks, a total collapse of the front lines is only a question of time and high-ranking (Ukranian) military officers start drafting contingency plans behind closed doors. Their whispered strategy centers on the belief that Zelenskyy’s continuation in power will ultimately doom Ukraine to further humiliation or, worse, open the door to a collapse of the state itself. As powerful oligarchs are conceiving of a plan to oust Zelensky and replace him with a Russia-friendly leader, the military signals not to interfere with a coup attempt.

Dismayed by the abrupt rift with Washington and Europe’s inability to step up, the war of attrition continues. However, before too long, Zelenskyy finds a surprising new mediator for Ukraine’s future: China. As the Kremlin grows bolder and the United States hints at stepping away from the conflict altogether, Beijing steps in, offering itself as a more neutral arbiter, capable of reigning in both Moscow and Kyiv. Although Zelenskyy initially hesitates to trust a power with its own global ambitions, he cannot ignore the prospect of a negotiation table that at least promises to halt the escalating crisis. For Beijing, brokering an accord in Europe is a golden opportunity to project itself as a responsible stakeholder – and to advance its own strategic and economic interests across the region at a time when transatlantic unity is no more.
 


Budget deficit is not just 2% GDP.
They are using savings to pay for military equipment and ammo etc manufacturing and also had forced banks to issue artifically cheap loans for military industry companies....

Inflation is more than some 20%....
Private debts and companies debts are growing like in Ukraine too.
Fast loans companies and pawnshops are busy and does have profits.


GDP most likely actually had increased more than some 1 or 3%, just part of economy is in grey or dark sector, so not accounted for taxman etc.


However Putin had increased bonuses for fresh recruits for special operation, salaries for military complex workers etc....they ofc usually are spending money relatively quickly, significantly increasing inflaltion.
High interest rates ofc too are increasing inflation.

Parralel import too is increasing inflation: it is possible easy to purchase the same civilian stuff like in west....if you have enough money. Usually for higher price than in west ofc....

Otherwise they still are able to get " a bit used luxurou cars with some maybe 10 miles on odo, western alco, parfumes, brand clothing, watches, laptops, phones etc etc....
If money enough= you will get...
 
If about Ukr hope that west will install peacekeepers...dunno.

Without proper air defense ?

IF numbers of missiles pledged for Ukr rumours in public are correct...then Ukr will have air defense called prayers....this one....

So if really so low number of missiles for SAM systems are in reality, then it is not enough for ukr....not alone for some western peacekeeping forces.
 
GDP most likely actually had increased more than some 1 or 3%, just part of economy is in grey or dark sector, so not accounted for taxman etc.
Such a great article it forgot to give Russia's actual GDP. $2.4 trillion. About the same as Italy's. ...and no, the Russian economy is not going to collapse. China is always there to help.
 
Talk about low expectations when you peg Russia's success to Italy's. If Russia wasn't a corrupt shithole it could have rivaled US and China in development.
 
Will see what will happen when soviet era stockpiles will be spent.

Westerners living in modern dreamers mindset are dreaming that they doesn't hate them...LOL.

Westerners usually are just dreamers and it is business nothing personal ...dreamers.

They can't get level of hate cultivated about them ( west )in russia since 1917 th....

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Example how far they had get to produce more and more weapons ...
U.S.S.R , loved by some dreamers posting here ....had tackled money printing machines ON and had get casual population till vodka, soap and cigarettes stamps!
Ofc in grey or dark market life was different...if you have money, a lot.

Plus these stamps were not cos oil price or foreign reserve.
They were self sufficient with resources to produce more vodka and soap than they were able to consume...with 0 import ingredients etc.

If Putin will introduce vodka, soap and cigarettes stamps system...he still will rule at least year after this...
Population will blame for example bad west as always...
 
One from factors why russia might hire guys for special operation ofc are bonuses etc.

Then additionally ofc propaganda ...from local newspapers till yt , tg , tik tok etc...
 
There ofc is also stuff like bloggers not connected with propaganda financing machine.

Simple way how to attempt earn for a living with blogs and channels:
If you have good skills in russian...

1. Create channels in social media networks and blogs etc
2. Rack up number of views and subs : this is essential.

3. Post pro russian content aka in propagandists manner etc.

4. There ofc are also opportunities not only just get $ from channels and blogs ....
These too might be different earnings.
Some are getting more than special operators in dumbass might earn...

They might ask subscribers and even just visitors to donate money via xx different services...
Vuala, again money is coming....

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Ofc better is to post how easy bad west and ukrops are defeated...

Add trolling comments where, sorry, on daily basis xxxx enemies are died and xxxx captured, xxxx technique units destroyed 24/7 mode....

More than had been ever manufactured...


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So ofc if someone believes not only propagandists excuses but also agenda that enemies are obliterated easy peasy...

Then guy is thinking that will be easy and lol, here are bonuses, might apply for special operation....
 
Putin if will be in Istanbul 15.05.2025 definitely will be in mad mode...
His security service yet didn'y had installed in Istanbul casually used No1 team: they usually are in city where Putin will be some 3-5 days before Putin's visit in city.

Imagine how angry might be Putin if will travel somewhere without casual routine security measures used before visit?

Maybe even will be good if he will not manage to keep discipline and immediately will start to yell like crazy.....
 
Btw looks that they are in positive mindset about ability easily to fold ukr.
Bloggers found wunderwaffe : drone Banderol.
This according to them is cheap drone , mainly used are mainstream chinesse parts.
Drone does have 150 kg warhead, speed 400-500 km/h and possible range till 500 km.
Russians are expecting to get a lot of these drones for special operation.
 
Talk about low expectations when you peg Russia's success to Italy's. If Russia wasn't a corrupt shithole it could have rivaled US and China in development.
BTW even without crude oil and natural gas , russia still had potential to be very rich, really...to get turned into country with a lot of tourists and businessmans waiting to get their application for visas checked ...and ofc for this $ might had get collected.

1. Very huge potential for agricultrure.
2. Super potential for tourism.
3. Wildlife, fish etc....damn a lot.

Resources are also hydroresources etc.

Ofc guys with bully mentality will laugh on Iceland just because small population and no resources for mining industry...
They just does have fishing and hydroresources plus geothermal...

Look on GDP netto .... per capita
....

Then take Angola.
Best fertile soil in Africa, like in Zaire...
Diamonds, crude oil, gold etc...
Lurk on GDP per capita NET....

Countries might be ruled like Iceland or like Angola....etc beauties....
It depends.
 
The same agricultural potential ofc in africa is different, some countries doesn't have enough fertile soil...
some does have damn huge potential ...

Still propagandists are teacing them to hate europe...to hate europe and ask bad enemies for food....
Despite more than half of agricultural soil in europe is depleted decades ago.
Maybe hate is to see that to take peace of soil and feel like it is mix of earth with fat...
Literally then usually fertilizers aren't mandatory to use.
Still better is to get food from enemies on the table.
 
It think a lot of ppl doesn't know that EU easily might tell stupid U.N that they will not sign next paychecks for food programms.

For example the same wheat supplies. Yup, were purchased mainly from ukr..

They might tell that now food assitance programms should be financed by Putin or someone else...0 cent anymore.
 
btw Putin most likely will continue...
This is mainly cos he is able to continue without mobilization.....
 

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