International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[San Marino]

No American should support Russias actions against Ukraine because the US invaded Cuba or Iraq, that's plain idiotic.

The US never invaded Cuba.
The topic was about how the US told Cuba and the USSR what needed to be done because it (US) wanted it that way. Only the US opinion seems to have mattered in the issue. In the end the US agreed to remove its missiles from Turkey and Italy and the Soviets stopped using Cuba as a missile base. The point being that the US provoked the Soviets, not the other way around. Much like Ukraine provoked Russia into an invasion. Ukraine became independent in 1991. Not until 2014 did Russia decide to take Crimea. Why didn't Russia keep Ukraine as part of Russia? Why did it not try to take Ukraine back prior to 2014?

 

[San Marino]

Russia cannot even get their own people and equipment from Syria to Russia right now. It's just going to rot in Libya in range of the entire NATO air force in Europe.

Yeah, I guess all those Russian nuclear missiles count for nothing. You have grown dumber in the last 3 years.

 

[San Marino]

You are cheering for an invading force that attacked it's neighbour unprovoked and has relentlessly targeted civilians.

Is that not what Israel is doing in Gaza? Killing 100 innocent civilians for every 1 Hamas fighter. Do the math and see how many innocent men, women, and children the Israelis have killed in 15 months.

 

[lsa]

Like when you invaded and bombed Syria and Palestine?

When did @irish_thug invade Syria and Palestine?
Or do you mean Canada?

 

[Cid]

Considering that they've hit a couple apartment blocks in Russian cities, I think they've already gotten to this part.

Drones are susceptible to EW and sometimes flights just go wrong.

Can't plan for every building.

If Ukraine was targeting civilian infrastructure they wouldn't be targeting apartment blocks.

 

[San Marino]

Drones are susceptible to EW and sometimes flights just go wrong.

The Russians have been using drones with fiber optics wire to guide them. That is how French and American tanks have been destroyed. EW does not work in this scenario.

 

[San Marino]

Trump now planning for acquisition of Canada, Greenland, and Panama. Crazy? Yes, but who is going to stop him?
Both economic and military options are on the table. Will Denmark fight a war with the US over Greenland? I don't think so. Plus, folks in Greenland want to be part of the United States. Trump and Musk may be willing to buy Ukraine for the right price and keep Russia away. Denmark may be looking for Russia's help in fighting the US.

 

[lsa]

Trump now planning for acquisition of Canada, Greenland, and Panama. Crazy? Yes, but who is going to stop him?
Both economic and military options are on the table. Will Denmark fight a war with the US over Greenland? I don't think so. Plus, folks in Greenland want to be part of the United States. Trump and Musk may be willing to buy Ukraine for the right price and keep Russia away. Denmark may be looking for Russia's help in fighting the US.

No they dont. Just because Jr has a video with a few does not mean they want to be part of US.
Greenland has been working towards going full independent since the 1970ties and have been able to vote for independence since 2008 or 2009.


Also Denmark cant sell Greenland like its a car.
Its simply not how it works.

You see the natives as slaves that the Danes can just sell?

 

[San Marino]

Greenland has been working towards going full independent since the 1970ties and have been able to vote for independence since 2008 or 2009.

Also Denmark cant sell Greenland like its a car.
Its simply not how it works.

Not sure what the problem is between Denmark and Greenland.
The Treaty of Kiel gave Denmark final control of Greenland in 1814, but Norway claimed the eastern section of the country. This claim was successfully disputed in 1933, and Denmark has had control of Greenland ever since. The country was granted home rule by Denmark in 1979. Greenland is still an autonomous territory of Denmark. Trump could just put a US air base in Greenland for US security. Purchasing Greenland? That is nuts.

 

[lsa]

Not sure what the problem is between Denmark and Greenland.
The Treaty of Kiel gave Denmark final control of Greenland in 1814, but Norway claimed the eastern section of the country. This claim was successfully disputed in 1933, and Denmark has had control of Greenland ever since. The country was granted home rule by Denmark in 1979. Greenland is still an autonomous territory of Denmark. Trump could just put a US air base in Greenland for US security. Purchasing Greenland? That is nuts.

US already has 2 bases on Greenland and they have an agreement with both Denmark and Greenland about it, US can today pretty much do as they like there.
Military wise, owning it would make no difference for the US.

There used to be 10 000 US soldiers on Greenland. Now there is under 500.
But thats because US chose to cut back.

I find the whole situation weird.

 

[SandisLL]

Drones are susceptible to EW and sometimes flights just go wrong.

Can't plan for every building.

If Ukraine was targeting civilian infrastructure they wouldn't be targeting apartment blocks.

Plus they often are using civilian drones and even snaked in and launched from Russia ...
Also some cases small civilian planes turned into unmanned aircraft...cheaper - better ...
So ofc not expensive...

I think that their PR talks about missile drones and trembida are more empty PR, sadly for them. Maybe produced some and yelled....for PR mainly.

Like they since 2019 had a lot of PR talks about Vilkha MRLS, Grom 2 , Sapsan etc ...this thus far appeared maybe some samples....nothing more.

Ukraine looks that had begged even for anti infantry mines. While really even 50 years ago for them was peace of cake to produce even off route anti tank mines, not alone simple mines....cheap...a lot.

 

[SandisLL]

The Russians have been using drones with fiber optics wire to guide them. That is how French and American tanks have been destroyed. EW does not work in this scenario.

LOL.
France had supplied Ukraine 0 Main Battle tank comrade. So how they might had been destroyed in Ukraine?
Do you know what stuff is main battle tank?

Even these old Abrams models, 31 Abrams were not and never had been NATO tanks.
They were M1A1 export versions allowed to be sold for non NATO countries even in 2000 ies.
Fore example for Morocco, arabs etc.

We too do have wire guided systems since 1970 ies. Ofc now cheap fiber optic might be added.
We might sent ATGMS and soon also drones with such guidance to Ukr. IF opted to do this.

 

[Cid]

 

[Cid]

 

[PEB]

Trump wants Greenland because he says that it's to protect the US from Russia? Seriously as Denmark is a part of NATO and Greenland by that fact is a part of NATO? If Trump pulls out of NATO Greenland loses NATO.

 

[Rational Poster]

Yeah, I guess all those Russian nuclear missiles count for nothing. You have grown dumber in the last 3 years.

But but nukes.

Grow up loser, you just tried to say they're going to move them to Venezuela. Obviously impossible considering Russian ships barely float when they're in their own coastal waters.

You have an embarrassingly childish understanding of logistics for a guy who spent his entire career in the military driving trucks.

 

[jimmas99]

No, it won't. Ukraine will never be part of NATO. Three years of fighting and 400,000 dead soldiers for nothing.
How many years of fighting and dead soldiers did the US suffer in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? We lost all 3 wars.
Iraq was a war the US should have never started.

If they are never going to become a NATO country, then Russia might as well just leave Ukraine now?

 

[AWilder]

Like when you invaded and bombed Syria and Palestine?

The Canadian invasion of Syria and Palestine?

 

[Rational Poster]

Plus they often are using civilian drones and even snaked in and launched from Russia ...
Also some cases small civilian planes turned into unmanned aircraft...cheaper - better ...
So ofc not expensive...

I think that their PR talks about missile drones and trembida are more empty PR, sadly for them. Maybe produced some and yelled....for PR mainly.

Like they since 2019 had a lot of PR talks about Vilkha MRLS, Grom 2 , Sapsan etc ...this thus far appeared maybe some samples....nothing more.

Ukraine looks that had begged even for anti infantry mines. While really even 50 years ago for them was peace of cake to produce even off route anti tank mines, not alone simple mines....cheap...a lot.

The whole world, even Russia and the US, converted or abandoned their military production infrastructure post cold war. Everyone thought we were done with this shit. Russia didn't expect this level of resistance from Ukraine, let alone the world. Now everyone is scrambling to rebuild when it's already too late.

 

[irish_thug]

Like when you invaded and bombed Syria and Palestine?

Not sure what you think I do in my spare time. But I can assure you I have never, and likely never will, bomb any foreign nations.