International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[San Marino]

• Russia has lost its own territory in Kursk

No, it has not. I'm not sure what maps you are looking at.

Ukraine renews attack on Russia's Kursk region

It comes as Ukraine's president says only the US can provide security guarantees leading to an end to the war.

www.bbc.com

• Russias infrastructure is currently being destroyed

Being destroyed? How? How much? Nothing Russia can't handle or recuperate from. How about Ukraine's?

• Russia has helped to add new territory to NATO

Which new territory? Finland and Sweden?
Russia has gained Venezuela and still has Chinese, North Korean, and Iranian backing.

• Russia has almost 1,000,000 dead soldiers and currently can’t field its own troops so uses North Koreans

That would be 700,000 dead soldiers. Don't exaggerate. It can handle the losses, Ukraine can't. Plus, Ukraine is facing massive desertions. North Korea volunteered to help Russia in this conflict in exchange for nuclear and rocket technology. Russia still has over 1,000,000 men it can draft into this conflict. Remember how the Soviets lost 20 soldiers to every 1 American soldier in WWII? This is nothing new for Russia and the way they fight.

 

[San Marino]

None of which is a laughing matter.

This conflict is not a laughing matter. I was addressing the individual who wrote the original quote.

I would reconsider continuing this approach.

Oh, but it is okay when others ridicule me? Is that a moderator double standard?

 

[Cid]

Oh, but it is okay when others ridicule me?

Correct.

 

[irish_thug]

This conflict is not a laughing matter. I was addressing the individual who wrote the original quote.

Oh, but it is okay when others ridicule me? Is that a moderator double standard?

You are cheering for an invading force that attacked it's neighbour unprovoked and has relentlessly targeted civilians. People who do that are called assholes in my world.

Yes. It is a double standard.

Get used to it.

 

[curryjunkie]

Correct.

Only fair really, his stupidity on the subject is indeed a laughing matter..

 

[SandisLL]

spinmarino doesn't changes. Chatbot programm needs to get updated. Ofc if someone does have time to read his trolling then it is good chatbot to keep attention to thread. Btw he isn't american...

 

[Rational Poster]

You are cheering for an invading force that attacked it's neighbour unprovoked and has relentlessly targeted civilians. People who do that are called assholes in my world.

Yes. It is a double standard.

Get used to it.

Just thread ban this loser already and let him jerk of to Scott Ritter and Douglas Macgregor videos in the corner.

lmao

"Gained Venezuela"

A country literally starving to death through actual socialist policies 10,000 miles away while Russia can't even bring their own people home from Syria because their navy is already at the bottom of the black sea or complete trash rust buckets.

 

[San Marino]

You are cheering for an invading force that attacked it's neighbour unprovoked and has relentlessly targeted civilians. People who do that are called assholes in my world.

Unprovoked? The Ukrainian Army has not killed any civilians in this conflict? Ukrainians tie their own people naked on street poles for steeling food. Women included. How long have you been following this situation between Russia and Ukraine before 2022 when the conflict started? Ukraine provoked Russia through requests to join NATO multiple times. This was something Russia said it would not accept. Similar to how the US would not accept Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba after deploying US missiles in Turkey and Italy pointed at Moscow. Was Kennedy ready to go to war over the issue? Yes. So, the US can tell Cuba and the USSR what to do but Russia cannot tell Ukraine what to do?

By the way, we (the United States) invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and killed thousands of civilians also.
You seem to be very naive about how the world works.
So, anyone with a different point of view from yours is wrong and your enemy? I think I grew out of that stage when I was 10.

Yes. It is a double standard. Get used to it.

Buddy, I have known that for a long time. There is nothing to get used to.
At least I'll give you credit for admitting the truth about the double standard when others hide from it.

 

[San Marino]

Just thread ban this loser already and let him jerk of to Scott Ritter and Douglas Macgregor videos in the corner.

No need, he has already admitted to the double standard. Only folks who support Ukraine allowed in this thread.

 

[San Marino]

A country literally starving to death through actual socialist policies 10,000 miles away.

What would Trump say if Russia deployed nuclear missiles in Venezuela? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. It should do what it wants to do.

 

[The Diplomat]

What would Trump say if Russia deployed nuclear missiles in Venezuela? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. It should do what it wants to do.

Russia has a right to protect itself. Too bad all of its neighbors hate them due to their modern/recent colonialism.

This has become a self fulfilling prophecy. Ukraine was never going to join NATO. But then Russia invaded, so now they are.

Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, even Belarus is looking twitchy...how many neighbors should be afraid of being invaded?

 

[calavera2]

So, the US can tell Cuba and the USSR what to do but Russia cannot tell Ukraine what to do?

So, anyone with a different point of view from yours is wrong and your enemy? I think I grew out of that stage when I was 10.

10 year olds have better logic...you know like don't support your enemy

No American should support Russias actions against Ukraine because the US invaded Cuba or Iraq, that's plain idiotic. Russia is our enemy by their own description and the official stance of the Russian gov.

 

[Hdfi]

You are cheering for an invading force that attacked it's neighbour unprovoked and has relentlessly targeted civilians. People who do that are called assholes in my world.

Yes. It is a double standard.

Get used to it.

Like when you invaded and bombed Syria and Palestine?

 

[Rational Poster]

What would Trump say if Russia deployed nuclear missiles in Venezuela? It is a sovereign country like Ukraine. It should do what it wants to do.

Russia cannot even get their own people and equipment from Syria to Russia right now. It's just going to rot in Libya in range of the entire NATO air force in Europe. Their navy was a fucking joke even before it started sinking.

The difference is the United States could actually do something about it if Russia started trying to move equipment to our hemisphere. Russia can't even do something about their own neighbors.

Double quoting me like a gotten to little bitch. lmao

 

[Osculater]

spinmarino doesn't changes. Chatbot programm needs to get updated. Ofc if someone does have time to read his trolling then it is good chatbot to keep attention to thread. Btw he isn't american...

 

[nhbfan8080]

• Russia has lost its own territory in Kursk
• Russias infrastructure is currently being destroyed
• Russia has helped to add new territory to NATO
• Russia has almost 1,000,000 dead soldiers and currently can’t field its own troops so uses North Koreans

Ukraine seems like its faring the worst of it though. They are looking at drafting 18 year olds to make up for its lack of manpower in what seems to be an unpopular war with many people evading draft notices. 75% of Ukraine energy capacity is down because of Russian attacks and blackouts are the norm. Its down to which country can keep up with an increasing amount of economic-social pain.
Theres news that Russian drone attacks have increased 4x and are using alot of decoy drones to deplete Ukrainian anti-aircraft ammo and expensive rockets like Patriot.

Russian drone strikes against Ukraine are surging to record levels — how bad can it get?

For the third month in a row, the number of Shahed-type kamikaze drones launched by Russia at Ukraine surged to record levels. According to figures from Ukraine's Air Force, Moscow deployed a total of 2,576 drones during November, up from 2,023 the month before. And the Kremlin clearly doesn't...

kyivindependent.com

I wonder if the next step in the escalating war is for Ukraine to take off the gloves and do indiscriminate drone bombing of Russian cities.

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine seems like its faring the worst of it though. They are looking at drafting 18 year olds to make up for its lack of manpower in what seems to be an unpopular war with many people evading draft notices. 75% of Ukraine energy capacity is down because of Russian attacks and blackouts are the norm. Its down to which country can keep up with an increasing amount of economic-social pain.
Theres news that Russian drone attacks have increased 4x and are using alot of decoy drones to deplete Ukrainian anti-aircraft ammo and expensive rockets like Patriot.

Russian drone strikes against Ukraine are surging to record levels — how bad can it get?

For the third month in a row, the number of Shahed-type kamikaze drones launched by Russia at Ukraine surged to record levels. According to figures from Ukraine's Air Force, Moscow deployed a total of 2,576 drones during November, up from 2,023 the month before. And the Kremlin clearly doesn't...

kyivindependent.com

I wonder if the next step in the escalating war is for Ukraine to take off the gloves and do indiscriminate drone bombing of Russian cities.

Patriot isn't used against Shahed drones... ofc radar and network might share info about drones with air def grid, however these missiles aren't used against shahed drones....
Usually also NASAMS and IRIS-T aren't used.

Mainly mobile groups with technicals with machine guns etc mounted on , these Gepard, Shilkas, some Tunguskas ukr does have, then there are some other older SAM systems etc...

 

[SandisLL]

If about drafting and mobilization.
Before this war. Ukraine had mandatory military service...LOL, if you aren't student, 19 y.o and let's serve your term OR prison..YUP...
Soviets too had the same ....during peacetime too....
Now obiviously Ukr is more soft with conscription than before war. VUALA.

 

[Dalarna3]

I wonder if the next step in the escalating war is for Ukraine to take off the gloves and do indiscriminate drone bombing of Russian cities.

Considering that they've hit a couple apartment blocks in Russian cities, I think they've already gotten to this part.

 

[San Marino]

This has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ukraine was never going to join NATO. But then Russia invaded, so now they are.

No, it won't. Ukraine will never be part of NATO. Three years of fighting and 400,000 dead soldiers for nothing.
How many years of fighting and dead soldiers did the US suffer in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? We lost all 3 wars.
Iraq was a war the US should have never started.