International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

If about irrigation ...dumbass does have a lot of different sorts of clay. Some are usable for bricks and some are usable to manufacture irrigation pipes for agriculture industry and other kind of drainage tasks .... after Russia will liberate Luhansk and Donetsk oblastjs some oligarchs ofc will take to rule or even own mines and manufacturing...definitely China and Co will be happy to recieve not only antracite and coking coal and high quality coal coke from dumbass area, also high quality production from clay and gypsum .... etc stuff.
 
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There are some materials mining industry is selling where they are considered as very common and cheap stuff, in reality their price for metric ton might vary even 100x and more there and there depending from their chemical combo and other properties....especially it is valid for construction stone, different sorts of sand and clay & gypsum...
 
Sand price in europe is approx from ~ 0.5 EUR till ~ 145 EUR for 1 metric ton. The most expensive from this is usable to manufacture highest quality glass for expensive production.
Clay is approx 0.6 till ~200 EUR for 1 metric t. Ofc for cheapest stuff transport will be your...
 
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No. This dumbass area is important not only because coal and iron ore mining.

Especially if we do know that financially valuable is to transport for long range high worth production with long storage terms...exactly thing dubass mining industry might provide.

It is not worth to transport for long range some lignite or medium grade coal, while it worth to do this with antracite, high quality coal coke highly valued for metallurgy industry and heating or at least high quality coal usable to turn this into coal coke with low expenses.

If we compare for example to order wood to be used for heating from location far away from your area it is different thing if compare if you need high quality wood charcoal : stuff highly valuable for pharmacy and chemistry industries not only usable for heating....
Something like this is with a lot of mining industry production.
 
Luhansk oblastj mainly does have antracite mines and high quality gypsum, clay and normal construction stone etc stuff.
Donetsk oblastj mainly is producing coal usable to produce high quality coal coke for metallurgy industry...
Stuff really worth to transport and usable for long term storage.

I had exp with hard fuel for heating and if I had to accumulate something for heating I most likely had opted to purchase and properly store antracite, charcoal and maybe coal coke. This stuff if properly stored will be the same after 10 years...

Unlike sub bit coal etc alike stuff.

I don't use this stuff today, more electricity, wood processing remainings and still I do have wood charcoal a bit.
Ofc diesel as reserve for generators... a bit.
 
If about mining industry and defense one from biggest Ukr mistakes was to lost Soledar.
It is where easily some brigades might be located in tunnels together with ammo and weapons like in safespace.
Soledar had world top level salt mines...they were valued i world top 10-20 by size and it was very huge financial and military damage for Ukraine ...for long term.
While for europe not so important because both Poland and Germany does have more salt mining potential than Ukraine....

Most important battles in eastern ukr were Berdyansk and Soledar...

I don't see how Ukr might kick out Russia from Soledar....and all talks about diplomatic solutions are fairy tales for kids nothing more.
 
There are big differences between Soledar and other coal mines in Donetsk and Luhansk oblastjs. Not only Soledar does have damn a lot of deep mines with very large batches of mining tunnels.

They unlike coal mines doesn't have dangerous gases and therefore doesn't have explosions risk.
More than this, these salt mines does have low humidity levels and relatively constant and bearable temperature regime.
Therefore they are really usable to locate troops and tecnique, ammo etc.

Unlike with coal mines, Soledar had parties with organ played, foreworks and stuff for tourists with open fire stuff to watch.
Safespace.
 
I know one gentleman, he had been in Soledar before 2014 th... in these salt mines.
I don't remebmer how deep underground these tunnels he had been were.
He is smoker.
So he had asked ...and they told we do have grill with BBQ here so smoke if you want. 0 problems. He told that they really had BBQ with grill and humidity level in this tunnel was low, temperature approx + 8.5C° degrees and deep sense about something.
He is approx 1/2 russian and approx 1/2 from now EU origin... after 2012 th he never had visited Ukraine.
 
Country as estabishment is desigend to provide elite with income .. Marx.

We will have idea to rule all world.
Lenin. .

We should find internal and external enemies resposible for bad life in Germany and to deal with these internal and external enemies ASAP.
Hitler. December 1933 th.
Tell them that they are superiour and they will listen your orders. Hitler . January 1934 th.

" We do have dream about new world financial order. It might happen if Eurozone will negotiate with China and Russia in order to ensure that U.S never will be able to compete with united No2 and No3 financial empires in this world in and these empires will win vs U.S and to establish world hegemony. Dimitry Medvedev, December 2009 th.
 
Zelensky regime loves to dream about possible european taxpayers milking in endless mode.
While it widely known reality that Zelnsky regime is pro Kremlin oriented regime in reality.

If they had opted to cease diesel fuel and nuclear fuel, natural gas and raw crude oil transit for Transistria, Slovakia and Hungary, in some 26 th February 2022 th we might to see real ceasefire and real peace talks. While obiviously Zelensky regime till today values transit fees $ more than ukrainians blood and life.
 
There for Ukr doesn't looks that Putin does have intent to cease fire at all.
Recently hitler had managed to install in ukraine forces approx eq like some tank- motor rifle division size units and additionally approx 5 - 6 fully completed special tasks forces battalion size units ( pros who were pros also before war 2022 th ).

Putin is continuing to deplete air defense assets in Kaliningrad, St Pete and Karelia and in Murmansk oblastj and in Vladivostok area most likely with intent to increase air def potential for Ukr frontline.

Refineries industry oligarchs are demanding to increase air def for refineries and other kind of security measures to prevent sabotage and diversions. Additionally are crying that they does need skilled workforce and there are problems to hire usable guys....
 
There are opinions that in reality Putin is using for his imeprialistic ambitions more funding than income federal budget in reality does have.
It is supposed that thus far it was possible cos he had managed to accumulate a lot of savings 2014-2021 th.
Ofc now there is money printing machine and Putin still is able to increase funding for small special operation in Ukraine.

For russian public he again had confirmed that special operation is going as had been planned and will be continued.
Putin had promised to liberate from ukrainian occupation Kherson, Zaporozia and Donetsk & Luhansk oblastjs and to force Ukraine to recognize Crimea, Kherson, Zaporozia and Donetsk + Luhansk oblastjs as part ( subjects ) of Russian Federation.
Literally nothing had changed since autumn 2022 th.

Putin still does have some financing reserves and tools + access to printing machine.
He might opt to milk dry government managed pensions funds after sowergein wealth funds will be milked dry... after all this ofc again is option to rise interest rates again and increase prohibitions and restrictions in order to print more money....

Russia is investing generously for small special operation and associated with this tasks....also damn a lot for direct and indirect propaganda networks worldwide.
Funding for KGB ( FSB ), GRU and police plus funding for rosgvardia and so on again had been increased. Putin promised quickly to increase these funding bills again in 2025 th...
 
If we are thinking that Medvedev and Putin are most crazy ppl in Russia we are wrong.

Lavrov in India: russia never had invaded any foreign country. " but Ukraine "? Lavrov : Ukraine is Russia!

" Russia is liberating from occupation russian lands, russian property. " D. Ivanov...member of State Duma, elected lawmaker.

" Regardless from price we will pay, sooner or later ALL Ukraine will be Russia again. " D.Morozov....member of State Duma, elected lawmaker...

Exactly Morozov had yelled that Moldova should get eliminated from face of earth....after this Medvedev when get next vodka portion had posted approx the same shit...however later he at least had deleted some posts about this idea.
 
Ukraine was not applying to join NATO, they were not applying to join the EU. They wanted to enact trade policy so maybe eventually they might be considered for EU membership.
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Also, Operation Barbarossa was the German invasion that started June 1941 and concluded by that December.
The Soviet counter offensive was Operation Uranus in November 1942, hope this helps.
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Regarding Barbarossa:

. Early success
The Germans initially succeeded against an unprepared Soviet army. However, the invasion began to slow down and eventually ground to a halt in December, just 20km short of Moscow.

. Failure
The invasion failed due to a number of factors, including poor strategic planning, environmental factors, and failing infrastructure. Operational reach: The Germans misjudged their operational reach, and their forces outran their logistical support. Infrastructure: The Soviet infrastructure was in poor condition, and the railways were a different gauge than those used in Germany.

. Surprise counter-attack
The Russians struck back with a surprise winter counterattack, bringing the offensive to an end.

What was the largest military operation in history? Operation Barbarossa.

By the end of Barbarossa, the largest, deadliest military operation in history, Germany had suffered close to 775,000 casualties. More than 800,000 Soviets had been killed, and an additional 6 million Soviet soldiers had been wounded or captured.
 
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Regarding Barbarossa:

. Early success
The Germans initially succeeded against an unprepared Soviet army. However, the invasion began to slow down and eventually ground to a halt in December, just 20km short of Moscow.

. Failure
The invasion failed due to a number of factors, including poor strategic planning, environmental factors, and failing infrastructure. Operational reach: The Germans misjudged their operational reach, and their forces outran their logistical support. Infrastructure: The Soviet infrastructure was in poor condition, and the railways were a different gauge than those used in Germany.

. Surprise counter-attack
The Russians struck back with a surprise winter counterattack, bringing the offensive to an end.

What was the largest military operation in history? Operation Barbarossa.

By the end of Barbarossa, the largest, deadliest military operation in history, Germany had suffered close to 775,000 casualties. More than 800,000 Soviets had been killed, and an additional 6 million Soviet soldiers had been wounded or captured.
I accept your concession, you didn't respond to anything in my post, and your response has nothing to do with anything you or I said. Lmao

I don't need a ChatGPT breakdown on something I clearly know more than you about.
 

Ukraine urged to pause military action amid critical crisis​

A retired Polish General stop it he doesn't know shit on the ground. US media companies are not to be trusted especially since they went an begged to Trump.
 

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