International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Snubnoze707]

You know what's actually true...that its a good thing to fund Ukraine against Russia to prevent them from seizing Ukrainian land and treasure.

It's not a good thing to force Ukrainian civilians to become cannon fodder in a losing effort for US imperialism and hegemony.

 

[King Joffery]

Saying the quiet part out loud. Who could have guessed the US support for Ukraine would be about money and not the lives of the Ukrainian people.

The warmongers can stop pretending now.

10 trillion is a lot of money tbf. 200,000 Ukrainians for 10 trillion works out as $50 million per Ukrainian life, sounds like a bargain tbh.

 

[djacobox372]

This is stupid, Russia, China, and the US are HUGE... they don't need little Ukraine for their natural resources.

 

[calavera2]

It's not a good thing to force Ukrainian civilians to become cannon fodder in a losing effort for US imperialism and hegemony.

You mean Russian imperialism and hegemony in direct opposition to the west...to the tune of nuclear warfare threats...

Ukrainians are fighting against an invading horde of Russians who are hell bent on annihilating them...a Ukraine that wants to turn its country to the west like many former soviet colonies...its an objectively good thing for the west to fund this.

 

[method115]

Every time I think this war is kind of settled in and not much will happen Ukraine does some wild shit.

 

[Nameless King]

Check this out. It's a channel of russian soldier, he got loads of videos from his home and the front. Last video is a game over, stepped on the landmine, got abandoned and crying for rescue.

I'm afraid no one is coming. SFW

Клауд Роммель

Надеюсь этот канал поможет с Божьей помощью хотя бы одному Христианину.

www.youtube.com

 

[method115]

Saying the quiet part out loud. Who could have guessed the US support for Ukraine would be about money and not the lives of the Ukrainian people.

The warmongers can stop pretending now.

Ukraine used to have nukes and we signed an agreement with them saying we would provide them with security if they gave up the nukes. I guess we could have just told them to fuck off and not helped at all but good luck getting any country to follow that agreement in the future.

Then again we kind of destroyed that trust with Libya.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Take your strawman somewhere else.

Congratulations on learning debate bro terminology!

 

[Badr Hari]

Check this out. It's a channel of russian soldier, he got loads of videos from his home and the front. Last video is a game over, stepped on the landmine, got abandoned and crying for rescue.

I'm afraid no one is coming. SFW

Клауд Роммель

Надеюсь этот канал поможет с Божьей помощью хотя бы одному Христианину.

www.youtube.com

Holy shit

 

[Aegon Spengler]

You're right, but so is OP.

Well, the USA doesn’t do anything for moral reasons. You don’t dump billions into defending someone for moral reasons

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Check this out. It's a channel of russian soldier, he got loads of videos from his home and the front. Last video is a game over, stepped on the landmine, got abandoned and crying for rescue.

I'm afraid no one is coming. SFW

Клауд Роммель

Надеюсь этот канал поможет с Божьей помощью хотя бы одному Христианину.

www.youtube.com

No way he uploaded it on the battlefield, all signals are jammed and cellphone towers destroyed. He is in the hospital.

 

[Scheme]

You mean Russian imperialism and hegemony in direct opposition to the west...to the tune of nuclear warfare threats...

Ukrainians are fighting against an invading horde of Russians who are hell bent on annihilating them...a Ukraine that wants to turn its country to the west like many former soviet colonies...its an objectively good thing for the west to fund this.

It must be so nice living in a world so black and white, where there are so clearly good guys and bad guys and everything the good guys do is for good and everything the bad guys do is for bad. Thankfully the real world is just like your superhero movies!

 

[Cole train]

No way he uploaded it on the battlefield, all signals are jammed and cellphone towers destroyed. He is in the hospital.

On quick look he survived i think

Thumbnail says " i recorded this when i lost a lot of blood" in a past tense so i feel he survived and he uploaded later

Crazy channel not due to war stuff but due to religious stuff he says, whole channel is basically about religion

Not to mention he takes stepping on mine rather well, should be screaming or in shock which makes me think hes already in treatment

 

[The XL]

Ukraine can't win this war. Even if it has exposed Russia somewhat as a paper tiger on a global scale, Russia is still a regional powerhouse with more manpower and resources. And even if by some miracle Ukraine won, the country will be destroyed, economically fucked and in massive debt to the West, will be basically unlivable from a standard of living point of view and will always have to worry about the next invasion.

This war was fought for the West. Men were sent to die against their wills as bodies for the West to dispose. Zelensky is more than happy to serve as their puppet. Despite being fighting age, he and his family won't see combat. And he'll keep every penny of his hundred or so million dollars while his people die brutally in a ditch for no apparent reason

 

[Badr Hari]

Orthodox christian radical

 

[Cole train]

Orthodox christian radical

Russian christian radical by the name of claud rommel

Cant make this shit up

 

[calavera2]

It must be so nice living in a world so black and white, where there are so clearly good guys and bad guys and everything the good guys do is for good and everything the bad guys do is for bad. Thankfully the real world is just like your superhero movies!

Don't be upset...it has nothing to do with black or white...but being objective about what you support. War is evil and destructive...Russia chose this path...Russia is not an ally of the West therefore opposing a Russians grasp for more power is objectively good for the west and Ukraine that wants to escape their orbit...its not that complicated.

 

[calavera2]

Ukraine can't win this war. Even if it has exposed Russia somewhat as a paper tiger on a global scale, Russia is still a regional powerhouse with more manpower and resources. And even if by some miracle Ukraine won, the country will destroyed be, economically fucked and in massive debt to the West, will be basically unlivable from a standard of living point of view and will always have to worry about the next invasion.

This war was fought for the West. Men were sent to die against their wills as bodies for the West to dispose. Zelensky is more than happy to serve as their puppet. Despite being fighting age, he and his family won't see combat. And he'll keep every penny of his hundred or so million dollars while his people die brutally in a ditch for no apparent reason

It makes you look disingenuous to not assign the cause of Ukrainian deaths where they actually belong...at the firing of bullets, missiles, rockets, incendiary rounds, and chemical weapons launched from Russian arms...it just makes your argument have no redeeming persuasive value.

 

[filthybliss]

It's not a good thing to force Ukrainian civilians to become cannon fodder in a losing effort for US imperialism and hegemony.

Let them be victims of Russian tyranny instead! You know the actual country trying to annex them and the one with a leader that constantly low balls their right to self determination.

 

[filthybliss]

Ukraine can't win this war. Even if it has exposed Russia somewhat as a paper tiger on a global scale, Russia is still a regional powerhouse with more manpower and resources. And even if by some miracle Ukraine won, the country will destroyed be, economically fucked and in massive debt to the West, will be basically unlivable from a standard of living point of view and will always have to worry about the next invasion.

This war was fought for the West. Men were sent to die against their wills as bodies for the West to dispose. Zelensky is more than happy to serve as their puppet. Despite being fighting age, he and his family won't see combat. And he'll keep every penny of his hundred or so million dollars while his people die brutally in a ditch for no apparent reason

Uh, are Ukrainians being sent fight against their wills? You think they would like to submit to a country’s rule after the bombed and ridiculed them for so long.

I don’t understand “the war” was fought for the west narrative. The war was literally catalyzed by Russia. It is none of Russia’s business to invade Ukraine because they don’t like the allies that the country is making…