International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

Yeah, you're right. I was comparing the prices of some American cars when I was in Russia in 2010, I recall the Hummer for sure costing 2x more in Russia compared to the US. I didn't take into account that they would be more expensive in the rest of Europe.
For example I then didn't had interest about SUV...
My friend had son who had used Lotus and this was more expensive to purchase than in U.K. While he even then sometimes was cocky he...didn't had told 0 word about ukr stuff nor in 2013 th nor today. I have feeling that he isn't bad person, just life does successful. And he was normal when used car in city etc ...
Humans are different and individual stuff in real life matters more than other kind of situations....

Windows therapy and other stuff is casual in Russia and Ukraine etc since 1980 ies...accidents too does happen and this is casual cultural norm in reality. Ofc also might happen some problems with health without anyone touching you. Why not, it is just business and nothing personal.
 
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This the same shit that colonizers said when they raped and tortured natives in America. They were “freeing” them in the same sick way that Russians are trying to do.

Every 2nd or 3rd Ukranian has a Russian relative. Kyiv Ukraine was the birthplace of Russia.

Get fucking real.
 
You have no idea what you're talking about. Roughly a quarter of my family is from Donetsk. Those regions may have had more people who were pro-Russian prior to 2014 compared to other regions in Ukraine, but it was never anything close to a majority. Btw, now, in the unoccupied regions, there's almost no pro-Russian sentiment left at this point. I won't get into the occupied regions, because the people there could be jailed or killed for saying anything anti-Russian. The pro-Russian people from those regions could've just moved to Russia if they liked Russia so much. Ukraine wouldn't have stopped them. They had no right to conspire with the Russians to capture those cities... for Russia. That would be like me in California getting together with 20-30k people and trying to capture it for Ukraine or something. Doesn't work that way.

What Russian propaganda always ignores is why the vast majority of Ukrainians would want to pursue stronger relations with Europe over Russia. They lie that most Ukrainians are pro-Russian and the ones who are pro-West are simply Nazis or Western agents. The answers are out there, and they are obvious. One only needs to open a history book and read about the atrocities Russia committed against most of its neighbors. Or go to almost any country that was once part of the Soviet Union and ask the people if they miss it, or if they want anything to do with Russia. The vast majority will tell you no. Look at the difference between West & East Germany when the Berlin wall came down. Or heck, look at immigration data. Millions of people from Russia and Ukraine have immigrated to the West. How many Westerners have done the opposite? Not many. And the thing is, Russia has always had so many hardworking and talented people that could've made that country great, but they were always treated like crap and many of them moved to the West and instead made the West better.

Prior to 2022 (and still is, just secretly, lol), everything from the West was considered superior in Russia. Anyone who has ever lived in Russia knows this. Most of them tried to act and dress like Westerners, copied Western music, social media, TV shows, movies, lingo, etc. Western restaurants were all the rage. Western style apartments and renovations were considered luxurious (Евроремонт). Everyone who could afford to would drive a Western car (иномарка), even though it would cost 2x-3x more to buy one in Russia, and that's before even considering the much lower salaries. What can Russia offer that the West can't... besides oil, gas, and cheap weapons? And even if they could, who says the regular people of Russia would get any of it? The people have always got jack throughout the history of Russia, even now. So why would Ukrainians want this? Well the reality is, they don't, and Russian propaganda will never air the voices of the majority of Ukrainians. Ever. In Russia you can get beat up or jailed for protesting with a blank sheet of paper or wearing colors that resemble those of the Ukrainian flag. Who the hell would want to live like that? They're currently trying to block Youtube & Whatsapp, and there have been talks of Chinese-style internet censorship. C'mon now.

You are spewing nothing but western propaganda.
 
Sure, sure.

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For those who can't read Russian, these are civilian parades that are very popular in Russia right now where regular folks attach fake missiles to their cars with "on to Washington" written on them.

America is sending weaponry to Ukraine for the purposes of killing Russians. How would you expect them to feel?

You truly have the inability to think, let alone think critically. A great example of a liberal.
 
See? It’s not even worth arguing with these people. This is the kind of post you’re only comfortable with making when you’ve lost all self respect

You're speaking about Nato, the EU and the collective west. They are the ones trying to take over Ukraine. Russia won't stand by and watch that happen.
 
See? It’s not even worth arguing with these people. This is the kind of post you’re only comfortable with making when you’ve lost all self respect

According to them, the ones bombing Ukrainian cities and killing its soldiers and civilians are the ones actually trying to save it lol - deep down I think they know.
 
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From basement to battlefield: Ukrainian startups create low-cost robots to fight Russia​

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BY DEREK GATOPOULOS AND ANTON SHTUKA
Updated 12:21 PM BRT, July 15, 2024


NORTHERN UKRAINE (AP) — Struggling with manpower shortages, overwhelming odds and uneven international assistance, Ukraine hopes to find a strategic edge against Russia in an abandoned warehouse or a factory basement.

An ecosystem of laboratories in hundreds of secret workshops is leveraging innovation to create a robot army that Ukraine hopes will kill Russian troops and save its own wounded soldiers and civilians.
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Defense startups across Ukraine — about 250 according to industry estimates — are creating the killing machines at secret locations that typically look like rural car repair shops.

Employees at a startup run by entrepreneur Andrii Denysenko can put together an unmanned ground vehicle called the Odyssey in four days at a shed used by the company. Its most important feature is the price tag: $35,000, or roughly 10% of the cost of an imported model.
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Denysenko asked that The Associated Press not publish details of the location to protect the infrastructure and the people working there.

The site is partitioned into small rooms for welding and body work. That includes making fiberglass cargo beds, spray-painting the vehicles gun-green and fitting basic electronics, battery-powered engines, off-the-shelf cameras and thermal sensors.

The military is assessing dozens of new unmanned air, ground and marine vehicles produced by the no-frills startup sector, whose production methods are far removed from giant Western defense companies’.

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A fourth branch of Ukraine’s military — the Unmanned Systems Forces — joined the army, navy and air force in May.

Engineers take inspiration from articles in defense magazines or online videos to produce cut-price platforms. Weapons or smart components can be added later.

“We are fighting a huge country, and they don’t have any resource limits. We understand that we cannot spend a lot of human lives,” said Denysenko, who heads the defense startup UkrPrototyp. “War is mathematics.”

One of its drones, the car-sized Odyssey, spun on its axis and kicked up dust as it rumbled forward in a cornfield in the north of the country last month.

The 800-kilogram (1,750-pound) prototype that looks like a small, turretless tank with its wheels on tracks can travel up to 30 kilometers (18.5 miles) on one charge of a battery the size of a small beer cooler.
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The prototype acts as a rescue-and-supply platform but can be modified to carry a remotely operated heavy machine gun or sling mine-clearing charges.

“Squads of robots … will become logistics devices, tow trucks, minelayers and deminers, as well as self-destructive robots,” a government fundraising page said after the launch of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces.
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“The first robots are already proving their effectiveness on the battlefield.”


Mykhailo Fedorov, the deputy prime minister for digital transformation, is encouraging citizens to take free online courses and assemble aerial drones at home. He wants Ukrainians to make a million of flying machines a year.

“There will be more of them soon,” the fundraising page said. “Many more.”

Denysenko’s company is working on projects including a motorized exoskeleton that would boost a soldier’s strength and carrier vehicles to transport a soldier’s equipment and even help them up an incline. “We will do everything to make unmanned technologies develop even faster. (Russia’s) murderers use their soldiers as cannon fodder, while we lose our best people,” Fedorov wrote in an online post.
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Ukraine has semi-autonomous attack drones and counter-drone weapons endowed with AI and the combination of low-cost weapons and artificial intelligence tools is worrying many experts who say low-cost drones will enable their proliferation.

Technology leaders to the United Nations and the Vatican worry that the use of drones and AI in weapons could reduce the barrier to killing and dramatically escalate conflicts.

Human Rights Watch and other international rights groups are calling for a ban on weapons that exclude human decision making, a concern echoed by the U.N. General Assembly, Elon Musk and the founders of the Google-owned, London-based startup DeepMind.
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“Cheaper drones will enable their proliferation,” said Toby Walsh, professor of artificial intelligence at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia. “Their autonomy is also only likely to increase.”

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-...intelligence-b07de714659ef859e16c51d7cda4256b
 



The clowns in this thread will tell you how this is "Russian propaganda"

Ukrainian government is a failed state of spineless cowards who abuse Ukrainian patriotism and send girls like this to die on the frontlines while the wealthy and connected Ukrainian men party in Italy and Kiev nightclubs.



Imagine supporting these cowards or sending them money or weapons lol
 
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Pro russian oriented Biden's administration still had pledged ( promised ) to deliver Ukraine even 0 single fighter jet , even 0 from 40-45 years old export versions of F-16.
Also Biden's administration had refused to allow Ukraine to use U.S supplied weapons for strikes too deep in their friends Matushka.
This idiotism soon will end after POTUS elections and inauguration ceremony January 2025 th when if main candidates will be Biden and Trump by 53 % POTUS will be Donald Trump.
Nor U.S nor world needs POTUS who doesn't knows where he is and unfortunately looks that Mr Trump too most likely does have a lot of physical problems and not likely will be able to do duties as POTUS 4 years in row.

Both Trump and Biden most likely really might have problems with blood pressure and difficulty to maintain balance smoothly....both of them are old and tired.
About mental stuff I will not comment, I don't think that I'm competent enough but for both stuff looks...A lot of questions. I hope that I'm wrong.
 

From basement to battlefield: Ukrainian startups create low-cost robots to fight Russia​

images

BY DEREK GATOPOULOS AND ANTON SHTUKA
Updated 12:21 PM BRT, July 15, 2024


NORTHERN UKRAINE (AP) — Struggling with manpower shortages, overwhelming odds and uneven international assistance, Ukraine hopes to find a strategic edge against Russia in an abandoned warehouse or a factory basement.

An ecosystem of laboratories in hundreds of secret workshops is leveraging innovation to create a robot army that Ukraine hopes will kill Russian troops and save its own wounded soldiers and civilians.
588266_92706_front.jpg

Defense startups across Ukraine — about 250 according to industry estimates — are creating the killing machines at secret locations that typically look like rural car repair shops.

Employees at a startup run by entrepreneur Andrii Denysenko can put together an unmanned ground vehicle called the Odyssey in four days at a shed used by the company. Its most important feature is the price tag: $35,000, or roughly 10% of the cost of an imported model.
may-2020s-nintendo-switch-online-nes-and-snes-games-announce_9qxx.1200.jpg

Denysenko asked that The Associated Press not publish details of the location to protect the infrastructure and the people working there.

The site is partitioned into small rooms for welding and body work. That includes making fiberglass cargo beds, spray-painting the vehicles gun-green and fitting basic electronics, battery-powered engines, off-the-shelf cameras and thermal sensors.

The military is assessing dozens of new unmanned air, ground and marine vehicles produced by the no-frills startup sector, whose production methods are far removed from giant Western defense companies’.

maxresdefault.jpg


A fourth branch of Ukraine’s military — the Unmanned Systems Forces — joined the army, navy and air force in May.

Engineers take inspiration from articles in defense magazines or online videos to produce cut-price platforms. Weapons or smart components can be added later.

“We are fighting a huge country, and they don’t have any resource limits. We understand that we cannot spend a lot of human lives,” said Denysenko, who heads the defense startup UkrPrototyp. “War is mathematics.”

One of its drones, the car-sized Odyssey, spun on its axis and kicked up dust as it rumbled forward in a cornfield in the north of the country last month.

The 800-kilogram (1,750-pound) prototype that looks like a small, turretless tank with its wheels on tracks can travel up to 30 kilometers (18.5 miles) on one charge of a battery the size of a small beer cooler.
images

The prototype acts as a rescue-and-supply platform but can be modified to carry a remotely operated heavy machine gun or sling mine-clearing charges.

“Squads of robots … will become logistics devices, tow trucks, minelayers and deminers, as well as self-destructive robots,” a government fundraising page said after the launch of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces.
lets-settle-this-debate-whos-the-most-iconic-cyber-ninja-v0-1ks2or45ymtb1.jpg
“The first robots are already proving their effectiveness on the battlefield.”


Mykhailo Fedorov, the deputy prime minister for digital transformation, is encouraging citizens to take free online courses and assemble aerial drones at home. He wants Ukrainians to make a million of flying machines a year.

“There will be more of them soon,” the fundraising page said. “Many more.”

Denysenko’s company is working on projects including a motorized exoskeleton that would boost a soldier’s strength and carrier vehicles to transport a soldier’s equipment and even help them up an incline. “We will do everything to make unmanned technologies develop even faster. (Russia’s) murderers use their soldiers as cannon fodder, while we lose our best people,” Fedorov wrote in an online post.
fulgore-ki3-reveal.PNG

Ukraine has semi-autonomous attack drones and counter-drone weapons endowed with AI and the combination of low-cost weapons and artificial intelligence tools is worrying many experts who say low-cost drones will enable their proliferation.

Technology leaders to the United Nations and the Vatican worry that the use of drones and AI in weapons could reduce the barrier to killing and dramatically escalate conflicts.

Human Rights Watch and other international rights groups are calling for a ban on weapons that exclude human decision making, a concern echoed by the U.N. General Assembly, Elon Musk and the founders of the Google-owned, London-based startup DeepMind.
3879447-9401987582-Fulgo.png

“Cheaper drones will enable their proliferation,” said Toby Walsh, professor of artificial intelligence at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia. “Their autonomy is also only likely to increase.”

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-...intelligence-b07de714659ef859e16c51d7cda4256b
Yeah, robots!!!!!
 
I once had to get opinion today that Biden's administration isn't good for Ukraine and in reality only one difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump is able to tell some part of stuff in open text. While Biden not only fears from Russia, he also does want to deliver in reality almost 0 and to get europe in condition with depleted stockpiles and this in no case will happen. Joe Biden is personally responsible for decisions supply 0 F-16, dental of usage American supplied weapons too deep in Russia and also delayed delivery of military aid and insufficient ammounts of weapons and ammunition ( sorry for reality europe does thinks that Biden does want Russia to win Partially and for a reason ), consistent insisting that europeans should deplete their stockpiles and hope like kurds on promises and lying 24/7/365 mode while being milked, limited and oppressed in other kind by Joe Biden who is responsible for limited and delayed support and other idiotisms he had did. He isn't worse than Trump but get reality he isn't better too...it is painful reality.
 
Sanctions doesn't work and West does fear from Russia, therefore in 2024 th special military operation will be continued....Russia should improve their ties with Iran and North Korea in order to establish new world order.
Trademark: Lukashenko.
West is living in fear and does knows their weakness and fear. Trademark : Lukashenko.
 
Lithuania had fined company doing cryptocurrency stuff after prosecution about involvement in money laundering and sanctions evasion. Fine is 9 300 000 EUR. Today they looks that had lost first chance for successful appeal and now will have next chance to dream. Financial regulator for security reasons had " freezed " their assets before inventarization and assessments procedures about potential market value ( worth ) of freezed assets.
 

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