International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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Well apparently there is a lot of hand ringing in Moscow over Putin's war effort as little progress is being seen with a vast jump in expenditures in equipment and manpower. The rate of dead and injured has been climbing up with over 70,000 dead, injured or desertion within a few months. For comparison 7,000 was the number US who died in the Iraq war during the entire war. People remember how people in the US reacted over those numbers cannot imagine that these numbers are sustainable for a year or more in Russia. Desperate actions here in the US by Putin supporters to slow the US aid to Russia is not something Putin can wait till Jan 2025.
 
PEB said:
Well apparently there is a lot of hand ringing in Moscow over Putin's war effort as little progress is being seen with a vast jump in expenditures in equipment and manpower. The rate of dead and injured has been climbing up with over 70,000 dead, injured or desertion within a few months. For comparison 7,000 was the number US who died in the Iraq war during the entire war. People remember how people in the US reacted over those numbers cannot imagine that these numbers are sustainable for a year or more in Russia. Desperate actions here in the US by Putin supporters to slow the US aid to Russia is not something Putin can wait till Jan 2025.
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If just 70000 died then for Russia it is peace ofc cake. They does have different mentality and excuse that they " are fighting against Satan and bad collective West ", Kirill already multiple times had told that it is " Holy War " and " Russia is fighting against Evil 😈 ".

Putin also looks that had learned about 1979-1989 Afganistan experience when locals in Moscow and Leningrad were disappointed to see disabled guys and how mandatory military service conscripts had been used ....

Therefore to avoid disappointment in Moscow and Leningrad Putin prefers to hire guys from remote areas and even foreigners...

Money Putin still does have and not likely he cares about KIA numbers. He will care IF he will not be able to hire next batches of guys for replacement.
Otherwise nothing confirms that Putin will stop this war this year even if Russia really does have 1000 KIAs on daily basis. IF replacement might be hired, he will continue his small special military operation and will tell the same that It is going as had been planned.
Unfortunately doesn't looks that he will have big problems with financing this year, public in Russia is easy to brainwash properly and tell them how good is Putin and his comrades, protecting them from Satan, NATO, super deadly Ukraine etc. .
 


In the light of this being an Karate forum I would like to share this video which shows what relations between Russians and Ukrainians really looked for the most part for a very long time after WWII. 20-30 years ago almost every Russian had relatives in Ukraine and every Ukrainian had relatives in Russia. They spoke the same language, practiced the same religion and for the most part shared the same values.

Today's political dichotomy in the region was a cleverly manufactured psyop by the CIA neocons of Washington, DC to stimulate Ukrainian nationalism under the guise of "independence" and the illusion of becoming a "western" country. In reality the US military industrial complex is just using them as satellite and positioning Ukraine militarily and ideologically against Russia. Putin isn't stupid and isn't going to let it happen.
 
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Von Mises is earning his 0,5 rouble per post and after this he will pay % for his curator and manager, after this tax for matushka. Still easy job.
 
Von Mises one from nicknames is ferrinsjo , ofc with different VPN and different end user device used .. ofc also different e mail accou ts etc. Bread should be earned and he is earning for a living by using stuff where he does have experience. Nothing wrong, it is just business and nothing personal.
 
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PEB said:
Well apparently there is a lot of hand ringing in Moscow over Putin's war effort as little progress is being seen with a vast jump in expenditures in equipment and manpower. The rate of dead and injured has been climbing up with over 70,000 dead, injured or desertion within a few months. For comparison 7,000 was the number US who died in the Iraq war during the entire war. People remember how people in the US reacted over those numbers cannot imagine that these numbers are sustainable for a year or more in Russia. Desperate actions here in the US by Putin supporters to slow the US aid to Russia is not something Putin can wait till Jan 2025.
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There is also stuff that if I was Ukrainian ( I'm not ) I never had voted not for Biden nor Trump.
Biden's administration clearly multiple times had showed that they are literally appeasing Belarus, Russia, China, North Korea and Russia. Not enough that they does live in fear from these countries, they even doesn't have balls to supply old missiles and allow Ukraine to strike Russia deeper cos they does not have balls...and cos this fear Biden didn't had deserved to take office again. Never in no case....

Where there might be benefits for Ukraine both camps had threw under the bus long ago? paper worth stuff like Budapesht No2 ? Everyone with a bit of remainings of brain substance does knows that U.S had lost world hegemony and their promises for Ukr are not more than 1994 Budapesht No2. Lesser realize than used toilet paper.... peace of s(it... real life.

Don't worry about ukrainians as nation. Americans even aren't nation or real nationality. Empires are businesses nothing more, for a reason Georgian g***y had russians , it is business and nothing personal and idiots in U.S or Russia are dreaming to eliminate ukr as national identity. LOL. Statehood is for local elite to milk population and businesses in order to have stuff like Russian national PRIDE about " russian world " ruled by Georgian gy**y in Stalin "....
 
Hog-train said:
We're going to save Ukrainians from the West by killing them!!
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Russia is not in a war with the Ukranian people.

Ukrainians would have voted Zelensky out long ago if they were given the chance. The last 3 elections have been canceled. Ukrainians are being pushed out onto the battlefield. It's sick.
 
Hog-train said:
They're not at war with them. They're just bombing and killing them.
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Russia is at war with the west, not the Ukrainian people. Many Ukranians have relatives in Russia. Their roots go deep.

The west orchestrated a coup in 2014 and constantly provoked Russia into invading. Somehow they got Russia and Ukraine to fight in a war against each other. They are sending more weapons and money to increase the total slaughter. They care nothing for the Ukranian people. Neither do you.
 
Copper Burner said:
Russia is at war with the west, not the Ukrainian people. Many Ukranians have relatives in Russia. Their roots go deep.

The west orchestrated a coup in 2014 and constantly provoked Russia into invading. Somehow they got Russia and Ukraine to fight in a war against each other. They are sending more weapons and money to increase the total slaughter. They care nothing for the Ukranian people. Neither do you.
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War with the West by lobbing missiles into Ukrainian hospitals. Are you retarded?


 
If we see reality how Biden's administration in reality is appeasing Putin then it not better for Ukraine than Trump. Approx the same and Ukr will be idiots if will trust any word told by their " western friends ".
West had evacuated their embassies perssonel from Kiev and navy from Black Sea while Abdirsssssrowich & CO continued to tell that everything is fine...ofc for plebs.
Today Biden isn't willing to pledge even 1 single even old export model F-16 for Ukr and isn't willing even to allow use old ATACMS missiles for deeper strikes into Russia. We aren't idiots and easily might see how pussy and pro russian de facto is U.S administration in reality appeasing Matushka and supporting Matushka.

Biden might had make deal under the table with Europe like this: if europe does supply Ukr ground launched cruise missiles and also for peaceful exercises some " special " warheads for these, then U.S will supply Ukraine ATACMS missiles with conventional warheads and cruise missiles with conventional warheads. Not a bad deal but Biden's administration with all actions had confirmed that they most likely likely does want Russia to win this war at least partially.
Cos best fear is that comrade Putin might lost power.....ukr for them is small village with cavemans.... without resources and easy to sell. Where difference between kurds and ukrainans ? Approx the same game flowchart.
 
Ludwig von Mises said:


In the light of this being an Karate forum I would like to share this video which shows what relations between Russians and Ukrainians really looked for the most part for a very long time after WWII. 20-30 years ago almost every Russian had relatives in Ukraine and every Ukrainian had relatives in Russia. They spoke the same language, practiced the same religion and for the most part shared the same values.

Today's political dichotomy in the region was a cleverly manufactured psyop by the CIA neocons of Washington, DC to stimulate Ukrainian nationalism under the guise of "independence" and the illusion of becoming a "western" country. In reality the US military industrial complex is just using them as satellite and positioning Ukraine militarily and ideologically against Russia. Putin isn't stupid and isn't going to let it happen.
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Hog-train said:
Western propaganda used AI to make a fake video hitting a hospital?
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Who said it was a fake video.

Remember when Assad supposedly gassed his own people? Yeah, that was all proven to be a lie. Americans did it. You don't think the west is capable of bombing a hospital and then putting the blame at the feet of the Russians?

You really want to trust the same people that said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? We illegally invaded another country and the main reason we did turned out to be a lie. America killed Ghadaffi. America has been destabilizing regions in the middle east going on three dedecades.

I will give Russia the benefit of doubt considering that Russia does not engage in the types of things that America does.
 
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