International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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Bacco said:
We essentially agree

I believe Italy will help with toys, money and other types of support, but i really doubt troops, beside maybe very few special forces with training duties

I'm saying USA involvement will affect positively or negativly the amount of that support
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ECB simply will tell: send toys quickly OR...
And Urzula & CO will insist that you should accept refugees batches.
About money, ECB then definitely will switch ON printers ....unlike in Ukr case.
 
One from reasons why western Europe is supporting Ukr too is very pragmatic calculation.
If Ukraine will be completely integrated in Russia you never will be able to get rid of refugees and immigrants who does have Ukr passport if they will not apply for Rus citizenship. You will get duty to integrate them in society and they will stay forever....if will not relocate somewhere else.
 
SandisLL said:
ECB simply will tell: send toys quickly OR...
And Urzula & CO will insist that you should accept refugees batches.
About money, ECB then definitely will switch ON printers ....unlike in Ukr case.
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Toys are guaranteed, refugees are'nt even much a problem if we talk polish people just likes Italians welcomed lot of ukranians and population was in favor of It

Is troops i doubt will happen, unless USA play big role like in Afghanistan.
In that case Is possible small number but high level special forces will be sent to mid-level areas... wich tbh is most useful thing Italy can offer, our elite specific duties corps are very good
 
MAGA killing US jobs thank Mike "Russian Op" Johnson. Reduce dependence on the US and only deal with European suppliers. Lockheed running to the arms of EU. France is just the beginning as they will drive others towards buying from EU countries. Kissing away 100 billion dollars of Business in the US. Oh that Washington Post article will soon be taken down as I am sure Zelensky will realize it is being used as a tool for Russia.

 
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Copper Burner said:
10 years ago the west orchestrated a coup to remove the democratically elected president of Ukraine and installed a pro west president. Then Russia annexed Crimea, which is made up of.mostly Russians who wanted to be a part of Russia.

Trump will stop the war.
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Russia loving maggots should be forced to live there
 
Copper Burner said:
Gladly. The United States and collective west are crumbling by design. And your kind cheers it on. You don't deserve to live in.the united states. You should be in the pits fighting for Ukraine.
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You should be in the mud sucking drones with the russians....

Regardless how much you America haters want the US to fall it will endure your subversion
 
PEB said:
MAGA killing US jobs thank Mike "Russian Op" Johnson. Reduce dependence on the US and only deal with European suppliers. Lockheed running to the arms of EU. France is just the beginning as they will drive others towards buying from EU countries. Kissing away 100 billion dollars of Business in the US. Oh that Washington Post article will soon be taken down as I am sure Zelensky will realize it is being used as a tool for Russia.

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eh i wouldnt go that far. France has always been like that.



 
GhostZ06 said:
eh i wouldnt go that far. France has always been like that.



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France did work to allow the US sell nuclear powered subs to Australia. That they had already had previously signed a submarine deal worth billions to Australia.

Their subs did not have nuclear capability. They could have make it considerably harder on the US. Lockheed has avoided getting into to this politically charged issue but are concerned over the damage Trump will cause to a free Europe.

I have talked about the difficulty the US would have in proving what the US could in weapons. A majority said here it would still get through but here we are with dozens dead in Ukraine just in one attack. Russia has been empowered by MAGA

www.google.com

Australia reaches settlement with France over scrapped submarine deal

Australia's new Labor-led government has reached a 555 million euro ($583.58 million) settlement over a controversial decision last year to scrap the French submarine deal.
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GhostZ06 said:
eh i wouldnt go that far. France has always been like that.



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French lawmakers aren't villing to increase defense budget for import.
Therefore Sebastien and Co does have only one route: to offer pay for french fighter jets in order to get such bill approwed....
To tell that there is necessity to send tropps, then lawmakers better will agree to increase spendings on military rather than to send troops.
 
The only way this month Ukr might boost up their long range SAM capabilities for April is France.
Looks that this 1 SAMP-T battery they had delivered is 100 % intact and therefore they are considering to send batch with missiles for this stuff. While also there are questions what versions of missiles they will agree to send.
Also solutions versions are different : to send stuff only after replacement is delivered de facto or....to deplete active stockpiles.

For Ukr better is to stop induce vomit about possible expenses to reconstruct Ukraine and immediately start just to beg Micron to sign order to supply missiles from active[!] stockpile..otherwise this month Ukr will get 0 missile for SAMP-T.
 
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