International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

I think you lack imagination as to how they can be deployed to create a siege.

These tiny drones are effectively already keeping Russian forces in place.

Imagine swarms of these drones attacking in unison.

FPV drones have a 10-20km range at best. Crimea is well outside of their range as are all the supply links going into it. There's no cutting it off unless Ukraine can mass produce somewhere around 500-1000 Shahed/Geran style drones per day, and to do so requires large factories which can be seen from space which means they'll be whacked with drones & missiles almost as soon as they're built.

There's a reason that the vast majority of Ukraine's drone production is of the small FPV type, those can be made in small/home workshops which makes it pretty much impossible to wreck production faster than new workshops can be setup. Medium to large drones require large factories if you're going to make them in effective numbers, large factories don't survive very long in modern war when they're in range of enemy weapons.
 
FPV drones have a 10-20km range at best. Crimea is well outside of their range as are all the supply links going into it. There's no cutting it off unless Ukraine can mass produce somewhere around 500-1000 Shahed/Geran style drones per day, and to do so requires large factories which can be seen from space which means they'll be whacked with drones & missiles almost as soon as they're built.

There's a reason that the vast majority of Ukraine's drone production is of the small FPV type, those can be made in small/home workshops which makes it pretty much impossible to wreck production faster than new workshops can be setup. Medium to large drones require large factories if you're going to make them in effective numbers, large factories don't survive very long in modern war when they're in range of enemy weapons.
The larger drones can and likely will be supplied by outside countries like Poland or Germany. All in due time.
 
FPV drones have a 10-20km range at best. Crimea is well outside of their range as are all the supply links going into it. There's no cutting it off unless Ukraine can mass produce somewhere around 500-1000 Shahed/Geran style drones per day, and to do so requires large factories which can be seen from space which means they'll be whacked with drones & missiles almost as soon as they're built.

There's a reason that the vast majority of Ukraine's drone production is of the small FPV type, those can be made in small/home workshops which makes it pretty much impossible to wreck production faster than new workshops can be setup. Medium to large drones require large factories if you're going to make them in effective numbers, large factories don't survive very long in modern war when they're in range of enemy weapons.
Cheap quad ones...

30-40km with some of the fixed wings.

Is hard to hit these production sites for Russia because they're developed post war. They're not just standing in the open like Russia who thought they wouldn't get struck with long range weapons.

They're hitting Crimea with shorter range FPV/Loitering munitions that are launched from USV's. Don't have massive scale but the pay off is insane.
 
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If you're a wounded Russian soldier on the frontline, some commanders actually expect you to decapitate yourself instead of seeking help from your comrades.
 
That is why the Ukrainians are converting more and more into a robotic drone military industrial complex, they figured out how to get behind enemy lines without the need to send as many ground forces.
...and you think the Ukrainians are the only ones doing that?
 
I think you lack imagination as to how they can be deployed to create a siege.

These tiny drones are effectively already keeping Russian forces in place.

Imagine swarms of these drones attacking in unison.
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So, in summary, Ukraine is losing?
Can you expand on "imagination"? I know for you that is difficult, but how can drones create a siege?
You got the solution figured out. Ukrainian drones will win this conflict. Why is Europe sending help to Ukraine? Seems like a waste of time and money. Also, you don't think Russia is doing the same with their drones? Think.
 
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The larger drones can and likely will be supplied by outside countries like Poland or Germany. All in due time.
How long is "all in due time"?
This better happen by the end of this year or Zelensky loses.
In "due time" the Russian Army will conquer Ukraine.
Looks like @aerius handed your ass back to you once again! Your arguments suck.

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According to information published by the Australian Ministry of Defense, on July 19, 2025, the Australian government confirmed the transfer of the first tranche of M1A1 Abrams main battle tanks to Ukraine. These tanks, drawn directly from the Australian Army's operational inventory, are part of a strategic commitment totaling 49 tanks aimed at reinforcing Ukraine’s armored capabilities in its ongoing defense against Russia’s full-scale invasion. Most of the tanks have already arrived in Ukraine, with the final deliveries expected to be completed in the coming months as part of a broader military aid package worth approximately $245 million.
Importantly for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the integration of these Australian-supplied M1A1s into their armored brigades is expected to be highly efficient. Ukraine has already received 31 M1A1 SA (Situational Awareness) Abrams tanks from the United States in September 2023, which allowed Ukrainian crews to undergo intensive training, familiarize themselves with the platform’s maintenance protocols, and begin adapting their armored tactics to Western standards. This earlier U.S. delivery laid the foundation for logistical compatibility and accelerated crew readiness, reducing the operational gap as more Abrams units arrive from allied donors.


The Australian M1A1 tanks are based on a similar configuration to the U.S. M1A1 SA variant, sharing key combat capabilities that will ensure interoperability on the battlefield. Both variants are equipped with the powerful 120mm M256 smoothbore cannon capable of firing a variety of NATO-standard kinetic and multi-purpose rounds, including APFSDS and HEAT munitions. Their fire control systems feature digital ballistic computers and thermal imaging sights for both the gunner and commander, providing superior target acquisition and engagement capabilities under all weather and lighting conditions. These tanks also utilize advanced stabilization systems, allowing for accurate firing while on the move at high speed, a critical advantage in modern mobile warfare.


In terms of survivability, the Australian M1A1s feature depleted uranium-composite armor similar in profile to their U.S. counterparts, along with explosive reactive armor kits in some cases, and integrated fire suppression systems. Mobility is delivered through a 1,500 horsepower Honeywell AGT1500 gas turbine engine, enabling high-speed maneuvering and rapid repositioning across difficult terrain. With a top road speed exceeding 65 km/h and a range of approximately 425 km, the Abrams provides Ukraine with a highly mobile, fast-response armored asset capable of exploiting breaches, conducting flanking maneuvers, and holding defensive lines under heavy fire.


The Australian configuration retains core NATO-standard architecture, which ensures full compatibility with U.S.-supplied tanks in terms of ammunition, spare parts, and diagnostic systems. This commonality allows Ukrainian maintenance units and logistics personnel to apply the same operational knowledge and supply procedures across all Abrams variants in service. Additionally, the tank’s digital battle management systems, though not identical to the latest U.S. versions, still offer key functions such as target sharing, situational awareness mapping, and unit coordination, which will significantly enhance Ukraine’s command and control capabilities during mechanized operations.

 
How long is "all in due time"?
This better happen by the end of this year or Zelensky loses.
In "due time" the Russian Army will conquer Ukraine.
Looks like @aerius handed your ass back to you once again! Your arguments suck.

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Yet again you show so incredibly little self awareness. When will Russians achieve their stated 'goals'? I have asked you this question more than once and you always deflect or ignore it. So eat shit with your bullshit.

Aerius didn't do anything but say something that goes along with your biases.
 
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So, in summary, Ukraine is losing?
Can you expand on "imagination"? I know for you that is difficult, but how can drones create a siege?
You got the solution figured out. Ukrainian drones will win this conflict. Why is Europe sending help to Ukraine? Seems like a waste of time and money. Also, you don't think Russia is doing the same with their drones? Think.

I think you've already lost. You've sadly went 'all the way retarded' and there's no way to come back from that.

Ukraine is innovating at a rapid rate. Ukraine has shown a consistent pattern of using their imagination to stage attacks never seen before. Ukraine has forced Russia to relocate their entire black sea fleet. It's hilarious that Russia can't protect their fleet against a country with no navy. Ukraine destroyed 1/3 tactical Russian bombers with tactics never seen before. Ukraine has kept Russian infantry in place with little more than drones. Ukraine has innovated with their long range Neptune missiles. So yea Ukrainians have shown great imagination and innovation.
 
The larger drones can and likely will be supplied by outside countries like Poland or Germany. All in due time.
They should had long ago organized production somewhere in western europe.

Larger size facilities are required to produce airframe and engines ofc.
However usually these are literally civilian engines and random peaces of stuff for wings etc.

So might get supplied for ukr and china isn't able to prevent or really control this.

Then might be assembled in some improvised workshop...
Add guidance and mechanisms plus warhead and only after this it will be military drone.

FPV drones etc are necessity because you need battlefield observation and to deal with small assault / infiltration groups. Groups like 2-10 infantrymen are used more often than some crew with IFV or APC...

Therefore russia too had damn increased usage of different FPV drones..
 
When will Russia achieve their stated goals? I have asked you this question more than once and you always deflect or ignore it. So eat shit with your bullshit.
...and I have answered the question you idiot.
Scroll back and read my answer.
Aerius didn't do anything but say something that goes along with your biases.
No, he handed your little ass back to you. Again.
 
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Ukaine is innovating at a rapid rate.
No, they are not. That is just wishful thinking.
Ukraine has shown a consistent pattern of using their imagination to stage attacks never seen before.
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Never seen before? Please.
What has never been seen before is the desertion of 250, 000 soldiers. From Ukraine.
Ukraine has forced Russia to relocate their entire black sea fleet.
This is not a naval conflict. No-one, including the Russians, cares about the Russian Navy in a land conflict.
Ukraine destroyed 1/3 tactical Russian bombers with tactics never seen before.
Ukraine destroyed 10 planes. Nowhere near 1/3 of the fleet. More Ukrainian propaganda.
Ukraine has kept Russian infantry in place with little more than drones.
So, artillery, missiles, and tanks played no part in it. So, again, why are European countries supplying Ukraine with missiles, artillery, and tanks?
So yea Ukrainians have shown great imagination and innovation.
Imagination and innovation will not bring Ukraine a victory in this conflict. The Russians too have shown imagination and innovation. Russia is currently winning this conflict and continues to hold 21% of the country. The Ukrainian Army continues to grow weaker.
 
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FPV drones range actually might be increased by using larger size drones as FPV + retranslator drone...

Retranslator drone is also reducing relief effect on signal transmission PLUS it might communicate with FPV drone in frequencies for example A, B, C, D with frequency hopping flowchart, let's say ABCDEFGH
while operator might communicate with retranslator drone in frequencies E F G H with frequency hopping flowchart QVZW ...

Then communication range might be increased AND it is more difficult to spot where exactly operator's station is ..and more difficult to jam communications.
Both sides now more often are using also retranslator drones....
 
No, they are not. That is just wishful thinking.

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Never seen before? Please.
What has never been seen before is the desertion of 250, 000 soldiers. From Ukraine.

This is not a naval conflict. No-one, including the Russians, cares about the Russian Navy in a land conflict.

Ukraine destroyed 10 planes. Nowhere near 1/3 of the fleet. More Ukrainian propaganda.

So, artillery, missiles, and tanks played no part in it. So, again, why are European countries supplying Ukraine with missiles, artillery, and tanks?

Imagination and innovation will not bring Ukraine a victory in this conflict. The Russians too have shown imagination and innovation. Russia is currently winning this conflict and continues to hold 21% of the country. The Ukrainian Army continues to grow weaker.

How many tanks do Russians have left? Currently they are using motorcycles and civilian cars.

How much of that ~21% land did the Russians capture in the last 3 years?

There are Russian apologetics and then there's you ... What's funny is that most Russians are forced to spout this insane shit whereas as a claimed American you do it willfully and freely...no one will arrest you for discrediting the Russian army....

Seriously tovarish blink twice if you're living in Moscow...
 
...and I have answered the question you idiot.
Scroll back and read my answer.

No, he handed your little ass back to you. Again.


You're beyond useless and simple.

I think I could get a direct answer from a politician in Washington before I'll get one from you.
 
They should had long ago organized production somewhere in western europe.

Larger size facilities are required to produce airframe and engines ofc.
However usually these are literally civilian engines and random peaces of stuff for wings etc.

So might get supplied for ukr and china isn't able to prevent or really control this.

Then might be assembled in some improvised workshop...
Add guidance and mechanisms plus warhead and only after this it will be military drone.

FPV drones etc are necessity because you need battlefield observation and to deal with small assault / infiltration groups. Groups like 2-10 infantrymen are used more often than some crew with IFV or APC...

Therefore russia too had damn increased usage of different FPV drones..


Believe me I've been frustrated with NATO limp wristed response these three years and in 2014. They've been slow walking everything for over a decade.

Germany finally admitted they've been free riding American military spending all this time and need to get their shit together which is good to see. It is one of Trump's major accomplishments.
 
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