International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

Limbo Pete said:
Infinity war? Brosky, Russia could simply stop at literally any moment lmao. Good god almighty the brain worms
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Ukraine would have surrendered and entered negotiatons within a week if the whole Europe and NATO didn't tell them to keep fighting, we will send you everything you need.
 
188912345 said:
Ukraine would have surrendered and entered negotiatons within a week if the whole Europe and NATO didn't tell them to keep fighting, we will send you everything you need.
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Well considering Ukraine is fighting for their survival as a culture and a nation, it seems like there might just be a wee bit of motivation for fighting against Russian occupation lol
An occupation, mind you, that is being carried out solely at the personal discretion of Vladimir Putin
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Too bad for the bully when good Samaritans step in to protect the guy he wants to beat up.
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When I think I'm out, you drag me back in.😆

Because the little geek in this case (Ukraine) was prompted by another bully (NATO) to provoke their historical bully (Russia).

Without the support of his bully, the geek would have kept his mouth shut and not provoked someone who can kick his ass.

A set up, proxy-war, if you will.
 
188912345 said:
Ukraine would have surrendered and entered negotiatons within a week if the whole Europe and NATO didn't tell them to keep fighting, we will send you everything you need.
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The "peace deal" was a peaceful way to give Putin the country by installing a government of his choosing. Nato knew this would just get Russia closer to it's next targets.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
The "peace deal" was a peaceful way to give Putin the country by installing a government of his choosing. Nato knew this would just get Russia closer to it's next targets.
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No, just go back and read through my earlier replies instead and you will increase your understanding.

I bet we can all agree on one thing, the people who really get fucked by this situation are Ukrainians.

They were living in a peaceful, yet corrupt society, until regime-changed happened, to destabilize the balance between Russia/NATO.
 
188912345 said:
No, just go back and read through my earlier replies instead and you will increase your understanding.

I bet we can all agree on one thing, the people who really get fucked by this situation are Ukrainians.

They were living in a peaceful, yet corrupt society, until regime-changed happened, to destabilize the balance between Russia/NATO.
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No, they were doing ok until Putin's first scheme to take over failed, so he had to go with plan B
 
188912345 said:
When I think I'm out, you drag me back in.😆

Because the little geek in this case (Ukraine) was prompted by another bully (NATO) to provoke their historical bully (Russia).

Without the support of his bully, the geek would have kept his mouth shut and not provoked someone who can kick his ass.

A set up, proxy-war, if you will.
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Russia wants Ukraine. Either they control the country with a puppet or they will outright invade. This is what happened. Blaming it on Nato is a complete joke that only Russian apologists make. Geeks should have the same freedom as anyone else. It doesn't matter that they were subservient to Russia at one time, they are free now, and if Russia doesn't like it they should have kept the Soviet Union from going bankrupt.
 
188912345 said:
No, just go back and read through my earlier replies instead and you will increase your understanding.

I bet we can all agree on one thing, the people who really get fucked by this situation are Ukrainians.

They were living in a peaceful, yet corrupt society, until regime-changed happened, to destabilize the balance between Russia/NATO.
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One thing about a russian propagandist is that you say the same handful of Russian talking points. You all feel for UKR but they should surrender for their own good and blame UKR for the invasion.
Also mention the suffering of the UKR people but act like everything is ok in Russia.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Russia wants Ukraine. Either they control the country with a puppet or they will outright invade. This is what happened. Blaming it on Nato is a complete joke that only Russian apologists make. Geeks should have the same freedom as anyone else. It doesn't matter that they were subservient to Russia at one time, they are free now, and if Russia doesn't like it they should have kept the Soviet Union from going bankrupt.
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And now NATO wants Ukraine.
NATO was also well aware of the high risk for a war when they decided to gaslight the geek into provoking his bully, after overthrowing the sensible government who didn't want a war.

That's why there's a war over it.

To blame it on only one single party is not correct.

Ukraine is subservient to Russia, or to NATO.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
One thing about a russian propagandist is that you say the same handful of Russian talking points. You all feel for UKR but they should surrender for their own good and blame UKR for the invasion.
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One thing about a Ukraine/NATO propagandist, is that any inconvenient fact about the conflict immediately gets dismissed as Russian propaganda.

Personally, I really dislike getting lied to, even if it's for the "greater good", I still want to know more context about conflicts.

A good quote ; Truth is the best propaganda.

If you need to lie, insult, mock, and ridicule to defend your position, it's probably a weak position.
 
Limbo Pete said:
The only "diplomatic" solution to someone who wants to kill you and take all your stuff is... to fight back. There's no diplomatic problem, let alone a diplomatic solution. It's an imperial war being fought for the continued existence of Ukraine, full stop. Which you and the entire chud brigade know, of course.
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no uou dont understand, if his country was being invaded he would be mad at his own government for not seeking a diplomatic solution...











plankety plank..
 
188912345 said:
No, just go back and read through my earlier replies instead and you will increase your understanding.

I bet we can all agree on one thing, the people who really get fucked by this situation are Ukrainians.

They were living in a peaceful, yet corrupt society, until regime-changed happened, to destabilize the balance between Russia/NATO.
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This all started when Russia's candidate won a rigged election and so much of the population went out to protest that they had to run it again. Russia's candidate lost and they talked about annexing Crimea and Donbass even then. They bided their time until their candidate did win a following election, but since Putin was trying to create his own regional economic union his puppet eschewed the closer ties to the West the majority of the country wanted, leading to yet another uprising this time the Maidan Revolution.

You can complain about what superpower should have the right to influence them but it's a joke since the populace should be free to decide their fate no matter who you agree with. It's a laugh to blame NATO and the CIA for influencing them and then advocate for Russian oppression because of historic ties. Those don't give Putin rights to Ukrainian territory and resources because of their own military or economic needs.
 
188912345 said:
Currently they have a pro-American puppet who are sacrificing his people, and has banned all his opposition parties.
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LangfordBarrow said:
This all started when Russia's candidate won a rigged election and so much of the population went out to protest that they had to run it again. Russia's candidate lost and they talked about annexing Crimea and Donbass even then. They bided their time until their candidate did win a following election, but since Putin was trying to create his own regional economic union his puppet eschewed the closer ties to the West the majority of the country wanted, leading to yet another uprising this time the Maidan Revolution.

You can complain about what superpower should have the right to influence them but it's a joke since the populace should be free to decide their fate no matter who you agree with. It's a laugh to blame NATO and the CIA for influencing them and then advocate for Russian oppression because of historic ties. Those don't give Putin rights to Ukrainian territory and resources because of their own military or economic needs.
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More people wanted to get close to EU, in large parts due to $5 billion spent on "promoting democracy" in Ukraine.

If the old regime could go back in time, I bet they would have kicked out the NGOs in the 90's and lived happily ever after.
 
188912345 said:
It was an allegory that accurately depicts the situation.

"Insulted when called a free thinker", no I think you need to read his message again, and you might understand.

Again, I've responded on topic without calling anyone I disagree with a troll or a bot, a CIA/Stasi-agent, etc.
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The one about being a plank?

I didn't call you a Stasi agent. Putin is the Stasi agent.

Stasi agents were the spooks that suppressed dissent in east Germany during soviet occupation.

I'm calling you a self important retard that doesn't know basic shit like Putin being a Stasi agent. Or even knowing what a Stasi agent is.
 
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