International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

I don't think Rus can do it anymore. They are not taking Sumy city anytime soon not even in 24 months. They couldn't do it even in the initial blitz krieg of February/March 2022 when they encircled it. What they currently occupy in the north is strategically completely insignificant.
For Lavrov office it is very important.
Why? Because they are using oblastjs as some measure and now already might tell : our forces already had liberated 190 sq km² in Sumy oblastj from evil Kiev regime.

Also if they will capture some village with some remaining inhabitants, Medvedev and Morozov& Ivanov will advise Patrushev to tell Putin that in village referendum should be done.
 
I am sure Poland loves the fact they elected a Putin apologist.

 
I don't think Rus can do it anymore. They are not taking Sumy city anytime soon not even in 24 months. They couldn't do it even in the initial blitz krieg of February/March 2022 when they encircled it. What they currently occupy in the north is strategically completely insignificant.

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For Lavrov office it is very important.
Why? Because they are using oblastjs as some measure and now already might tell : our forces already had liberated 190 sq km² in Sumy oblastj from evil Kiev regime.

Also if they will capture some village with some remaining inhabitants, Medvedev and Morozov& Ivanov will advise Patrushev to tell Putin that in village referendum should be done.

Young and old in Russia already know that 190 sq km of border villages in Sumy are absolutely worthless. Russia for three years of war has only captured a grand total of one ukrainian city from the top 25 ukrainian cities in size and that was in the early stages of the war near the border. If russians had two working brain cells left they would stop this senseless war tomorrow and throw their house of cards regime into garbage for six hours. It is their own decision to continue to grow the number of widows and orphans in their own society which i don't think is a great thing for their "preservation of family values" narrative. What they are dying for is really the preservation of thick pockets of 100 people in Moscow.
 
Russia for three years of war has only captured a grand total of one ukrainian city from the top 25 ukrainian cities in size and that was in the early stages of the war near the border.
The Russians have been holding on to 20% of Ukraine for 3 years now. I think the size of the city or village is irrelevant. They are on the move westward again. 24,000 new soldiers per month into the fight. Is this sustainable by the Ukrainian Army that keeps shrinking?
 
The Russians have been holding on to 20% of Ukraine for 3 years now. I think the size of the city or village is irrelevant. They are on the move westward again. 24,000 new soldiers per month into the fight. Is this sustainable by the Ukrainian Army that keeps shrinking?

On the move but at the speed of a turtle, with a mountain of losses. See the graph of gains vs losses, the moment they decided to speed up advances in November of last year ('somewhat') the losses climbed up to totally unaffordable. This conflict is a natural stalemate if we are honest about it and the continuation of it is nothing but ideological cannibalism. 24 000 proclaimed as 'new soldiers', more like 'replenishment soldiers' in reality.
 
Ukr should know that in a lot of EU countries are politicians who doesn't want to see Ukr in EU because large, poor country, will ask subsidies, from Ukr will be a lot of immigrants in EU countries because ukr does have low salaries and high unemployment %....
Ofc depends from...politicians who will be elected in next elections ....
 
Young and old in Russia already know that 190 sq km of border villages in Sumy are absolutely worthless. Russia for three years of war has only captured a grand total of one ukrainian city from the top 25 ukrainian cities in size and that was in the early stages of the war near the border. If russians had two working brain cells left they would stop this senseless war tomorrow and throw their house of cards regime into garbage for six hours. It is their own decision to continue to grow the number of widows and orphans in their own society which i don't think is a great thing for their "preservation of family values" narrative. What they are dying for is really the preservation of thick pockets of 100 people in Moscow.
For warmongers and ppl getting $ profits from war it is enough to get village, report Putin about this and...Putin as always had did, will order to sign next financing bills etc.

For such warmongers even is better slow, long war. Longer : better.
 
BTW looks that kleptocrats too had adapted well.
If special operation active phase will end, Putin will reduce fuel and lubricants supplies and definitely will start to check spending....kleptocrats knows that then they will have lesser opportunities than today etc.
 
24 000 proclaimed as 'new soldiers', more like 'replenishment soldiers' in reality.
IMHO Putin had scheduled approx number of soldiers they will use in his small special operation.
Then ofc most likely next soldiers for special operation are hired to replace casualities.

If they are paying bonuses and wants very long war, then Putin maybe thinks that it is optimal variant ...for example hire for small special operation these 20000 new soldiers each month.

Maybe war in Ukraine will be all 2025 th and all 2026 th...
 
On the move but at the speed of a turtle, with a mountain of losses. See the graph of gains vs losses, the moment they decided to speed up advances in November of last year ('somewhat') the losses climbed up to totally unaffordable. This conflict is a natural stalemate if we are honest about it and the continuation of it is nothing but ideological cannibalism. 24 000 proclaimed as 'new soldiers', more like 'replenishment soldiers' in reality.
Indeed, but you are leaving out Ukrainian casualties. Right now, that is more important than gaming terrain. 24,000 new bodies a month. How many new bodies is Ukraine replenishing its Army with per month? Regardless of planes, trains, and oil refinery losses, bodies and casualties is what counts in this conflict.
 
Russian Su35 gloriously shot down F16 missile with itself. I was under the impression it was a Patriot missile but this is even better. Looks like Swedish radar planes are already yielding results.

 
The Russians have been holding on to 20% of Ukraine for 3 years now. I think the size of the city or village is irrelevant. They are on the move westward again. 24,000 new soldiers per month into the fight. Is this sustainable by the Ukrainian Army that keeps shrinking?
You have been saying this for years, why can't Russia overtake the UKR shrinking army then? I dont think their progress can be described as a "blitzkrieg" do you ?
 
Russian Su35 gloriously shot down F16 missile with itself. I was under the impression it was a Patriot missile but this is even better. Looks like Swedish radar planes are already yielding results.



They have done something even we couldnt do...




looks like they shot down a mig-31...
 
Russia had lost Mi 8 helicopter in Bryansk oblastj, looks that helicopter had detonation of some military equipment. Airport administration didn't had confirmed drones strikes, therefore FSB launched investigation to find out diversants or traitors - internal enemies.
Update.
Helicopter appears was military version of Mi 8 and had been filled with fuel and loaded with weaponary and ordnance....however looks that they yet didn't had get order to use helicopter ....therefore crew etc were not even near helicopter when small explosion happened.
So helicopter had been smashed in peaces , however from this episode russia didn't had casualities.

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Looks that they does have order to keep fully combat ready helicopters for case IF order to use them ASAP will get recieved.
Then crew etc immediately might rush and helicopter might have takeoff for combat mission some 2 minutes or lesser after get order...
 
I take timing cos some europeans countries had used Mi 8, Mi 17 for SAR type stuff etc tasks....so had to keep 100% flight ready helicopter for shift. Take off after order was approx 2 minutes....some cases lesser.
 
Btw if about Russia's politicians ....if Ivanov was president, he had sent to ukraine all prisoners and unemployed guys. These were his reccomendations since 2022 th.
Morozov since 2022 th does support mobilization idea... .and hates Moldova even more than drunk Medvedev.
Medvedev even once had resisted his idea to do 100% mobilization.
OK, they are lawmakers voting for laws in Duma...not Putin.

Putin told that he needs dvizuha and they deliver what Putin asked for : taking small villages and when Putin asks, they might report next village iberated....so dvizuha is here.
 


This post, sadly, summarizes well where I think the war is, and my position on it.

I was stunned when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022. And sad. Not because I liked Ukraine, I didn't. And not because I dislike Russia, I didn't. I have always been a Russophile and up until the start of the war I had been a Putin fan. I really bought into the propaganda that he was smart, "good at tactics, bad at strategy" or vise versa. Funnily enough, some people still believe that in 2025.

I knew in 2022, really no matter how the Ukraine operation went, short of spectacularly perfect (concluding in 72 hours or something like that), the entire operation was the end of a powerful Russia. There were so many interesting and achievable military projects at the time. Capturing Gotland. Bridging the Suwalki Gap. Baltic invasion, Arctic invasion. There were a lot of cool possible wars to prepare for.

And I had been in denial for years in advance, because I believed in Putin. And I believed he wasn't this sentimental, this weak. Because they kept shifting and deploying naval assets to the Black Sea, and shifting assets away from the Baltics, away from the North. And I figured this is a false front, or it's going to change, this is an elaborate ruse. But no. It was just Putin, never being able to get over the sentiment of the glory of the USSR, not being able to focus on interesting and realistic prospects of Russia power projection and expansion, and instead always longing for the past. What really broke me was, a couple months into the war, hearing that the Kaliningrad naval infantry had been deployed to Ukraine.

And the sad reality, from a Russia fan perspective, is that we're never going back to 2021. We're never going back to 2021 levels of European unpreparedness. 2021 levels of European industrial rot. Finland and Sweden have now joined NATO. Countries are ramping up defense spending, ramping up industrial capacity. Suddenly, these projects that were potentially realistic with good tactical preparation and planning, are either harder or outright impossible now.

It is fully inconsequential whether or not Russia gets another 5 or 10 acres of Ukraine today or tomorrow. Those acres have nothing. They have no strategic value. They have no tactical value. They have no industrial value. They have no geological value. or Geographical value. I was very supportive of the annexation of Crimea. Sevastopol is a very important city for the global projection of Russian power. Maybe Kramatorsk falls by the end of 2025. Even if it does, who cares? I could have told you in 2022, you gain nothing from that accomplishment. But it hasn't cost Russia nothing. In opportunity cost, it's cost Russia the possibility of engaging in a more meaningful war elsewhere in the world, that might have actually increased Russian ability to project power.

The fear in 2021, was that if Putin misplayed his hand, we would be living in a bipolar world, with the US and China. 4 years later, that fear has been fully realized.
 
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