International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[Cid]

Poland plus baltics left anti infantry mine contract, meaning they can use them again "officially"

Finland maybe will maybe not leave

Think a lot of countries are going to be examining whether they want to keep their cluster ban. I just can't see the old numbers about killing civilians being applicable to drone guided artillery.

And you can't doubt the effectiveness.

 

[Cid]

 

[SandisLL]

Cluster ammunition and different mines and IEDs are very effective. Both sides are using this stuff damn a lot.

There are a lot of effective tools for their usage.

122 mm Grad MRLS missiles does have different models of warheads.
There are casual cluster, then charge with small anti infantry mines, also charge with anti tank mines etc.
This is highly effective stuff, cheap and easy to use ...

220 mm Uragan MRLS missiles too does have some models with anti infantry and anti tank mines ....

152 and 155 mm arty shells too does have models with cluster ammo and even models designed to dispress anti tank mines.

Very effective are also different IEDs...

I think governments already had get how effective all these things are and especially how cheap and effective are mines.
Most likely mines and cluster ammo production soon will rack up worldwide....
Till heavens.

 

[Badr Hari]

Let's face it: tonight another fat L for Trump against Putin. Trump's 30 day ceasefire proposal rejected from Putin, plain and simple. Even the Putin doubters in Russia pleasantly surprised. War will go on this whole year without a pause.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Republicans surrender to Russia, let France fight our battles. Fucking sad.

 

[SandisLL]

Let's face it: tonight another fat L for Trump against Putin. Trump's 30 day ceasefire proposal rejected from Putin, plain and simple. Even the Putin doubters in Russia pleasantly surprised. War will go on this whole year without a pause.

Highly possible that war will go also all 2026 th.
For Putin why not. He is comfortable and is getting reports that Special operation is going as had been planned and might be continued.

So it is highly possible that with lesser intensity war might continue even all 2026 th.

 

[b-hop]

Let's face it: tonight another fat L for Trump against Putin. Trump's 30 day ceasefire proposal rejected from Putin, plain and simple. Even the Putin doubters in Russia pleasantly surprised. War will go on this whole year without a pause.

Weird, when everyone says Russia is desesperate for a way out.
Let's blame Trump instead of the president that allow Russia to invade Ukraine and somehow giving bilions of dollars at the same time that the russian economy grew compared to 2021.

Libtards.

 

[San Marino]

@Strychnine

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I'm still waiting on my answer as to why Ukraine thinks it is a good idea to hit Moscow with drones.

...and why is that? Why is Ukraine hitting Moscow with a few 'punny' drones? What exactly are they proving here? Will this help end the conflict?

You are missing the point. My reference was to Ukraine's Neptune missile. How many Russian civilians can it kill in Moscow with one strike? Actually, why isn't Zelensky launching those missiles into the Kremlin and trying to kill Putin?

Why isn't little man 'Z' dropping a dozen (12) Neptune missiles into Moscow as we speak? The man has roughly 130 Neptune missiles the last time I checked. Kill over 150+ innocent Russian civilians and bring Putin to the table for peace talks.

...or, maybe things will backfire, and Putin will drop a dozen (12) Russian missiles into Kiev.
So, this is why I think Zelensky (Ukraine) hitting Russia with drones is stupid. It will not change the situation on the ground in eastern Ukraine. Innocent civilians being killed, and Russian getting pissed off again by Ukraine. First, Ukraine wanting to join NATO and now drone and missile attacks into Moscow. I do think Zelensky wants to escalate this war. To what end? I don't know. Maybe he wants European and US troops on the ground in Ukraine.

Another interesting scenario would be Ukraine dropping about 50 Neptune missiles into Moscow and Russia dropping a small tactical nuke into Kiev. How would Europe react? How would the US react? I don't think Europe, or the US would do anything about it. Kiev gets what it deserves for a Ukrainian missile attack into Moscow. Should have stuck to the current trench warfare on the ground and left the civilian population alone.

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine’s ATACMS Nightmare is Just Starting​

MSN

Russia planning four new offensives in Ukraine, Zelenskyy warns​

MSN

 

[Strychnine]

@Strychnine

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I'm still waiting on my answer as to why Ukraine thinks it is a good idea to hit Moscow with drones.

Why isn't little man 'Z' dropping a dozen (12) Neptune missiles into Moscow as we speak? The man has roughly 130 Neptune missiles the last time I checked. Kill over 150+ innocent Russian civilians and bring Putin to the table for peace talks.

...or, maybe things will backfire, and Putin will drop a dozen (12) Russian missiles into Kiev.
So, this is why I think Zelensky (Ukraine) hitting Russia with drones is stupid. It will not change the situation on the ground in eastern Ukraine. Innocent civilians being killed, and Russian getting pissed off again by Ukraine. First, Ukraine wanting to join NATO and now drone and missile attacks into Moscow. I do think Zelensky wants to escalate this war. To what end? I don't know. Maybe he wants European and US troops on the ground in Ukraine.

Another interesting scenario would be Ukraine dropping about 50 Neptune missiles into Moscow and Russia dropping a small tactical nuke into Kiev. How would Europe react? How would the US react? I don't think Europe, or the US would do anything about it. Kiev gets what it deserves for a Ukrainian missile attack into Moscow. Should have stuck to the current trench warfare on the ground and left the civilian population alone.

Because Russia has hit Kyiv with missiles.

This isn't hard.

 

[Strychnine]

"Bbbbuuut! Ukraine is Surroundeeeeedd!!!!"

- Average plank, while Russia is doing "Thunder runs" on donkeys.

 

[Strychnine]

Baba-Yaga uses Starlink?!?!

 

[Badr Hari]

Weird, when everyone says Russia is desesperate for a way out.
Let's blame Trump instead of the president that allow Russia to invade Ukraine and somehow giving bilions of dollars at the same time that the russian economy grew compared to 2021.

Libtards.

I'm an anti immigration conservative lol. And fuck Biden. Trump is proving to be weaker though and that is sad.

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[San Marino]

Because Russia has hit Kyiv with missiles.

But drones and missiles are not the same now, are they? How much death and destruction did Russia achieve with a missile strike in Kiev compared to Ukraine's drone strike in Moscow?

You don't think Zelensky should take this conflict to the next level and hit Moscow with a Neptune missile?

What damage can this new modified Ukrainian Neptune missile cause?
. Warhead: 330 lb (150 kg)
. Range: 600 miles (970 Km)
. Casualty rate in an urban center (Moscow): 22,171

A SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) with an average of 540kg HE payload would create an explosive damage radius of up to 1.06km (0.6 miles). In an urban center there could be up to 77,600 casualties in the affected area. Roughly a 3.5 ratio to the Neptune missile. So, if one Neptune missile gets through Moscow's air defense system, a casualty rate of roughly 22,000 civilians is expected. Is this what Zelensky is thinking of doing with these missiles? I would say that in a way Ukraine has now gained its "nuclear" capabilities back. All Ukrainian nukes went back to Russia after 1991. People crying about how Ukraine lost its nuclear arsenal to Russia. They now have the Neptune missile. About 130 units. Why not use it? What could possibly go wrong? Also, how does Europe and the US now feel about this missile? The British Storm Shadow missile only has a 250 km range.

Ukraine's new modified Neptune missile system:

 

[Siver!]

Weird, when everyone says Russia is desesperate for a way out.
Let's blame Trump instead of the president that allow Russia to invade Ukraine and somehow giving bilions of dollars at the same time that the russian economy grew compared to 2021.

Libtards.

There's only one President that allowed Russia to invade.

Vladimir Putin.

He is the President that continues the invasion, and there's nothing Trump can do about it. He's powerless despite deranged promises he'd stop the war on day one.

Meanwhile, other wars are escalating.

Thanks for nothing, Trump.

 

[SandisLL]

But drones and missiles are not the same now, are they? How much death and destruction did Russia achieve with a missile strike in Kiev compared to Ukraine's drone strike in Moscow?

You don't think Zelensky should take this conflict to the next level and hit Moscow with a Neptune missile?

What damage can this new modified Ukrainian Neptune missile cause?
. Warhead: 330 lb (150 kg)
. Range: 600 miles (970 Km)
. Casualty rate in an urban center (Moscow): 22,171

A SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) with an average of 540kg HE payload would create an explosive damage radius of up to 1.06km (0.6 miles). In an urban center there could be up to 77,600 casualties in the affected area. Roughly a 3.5 ratio to the Neptune missile. So, if one Neptune missile gets through Moscow's air defense system, a casualty rate of roughly 22,000 dead civilians is expected. Is this what Zelensky is thinking of doing with these missiles? I would say that in a way Ukraine has now gained its "nuclear" capabilities back. All Ukrainian nukes went back to Russia after 1991. People crying about how Ukraine lost its nuclear arsenal to Russia. They now have the Neptune missile. About 130 units. Why not use it? What could possibly go wrong? Also, how does Europe and the US now feel about this missile? The British Storm Shadow missile only has a 250 km range.

Ukraine's new modified Neptune missile system:
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Excellent imformation about missiles gathered from open mainstream sources.

Don't worry. You do not live in U.S why you are so concerned about U.S. Russia and Ukraine? For paycheck comrade.

Please drop nuke on europe and will see. Your aussie troll shiy is too annoying. Especially cos you never had served for U.S nor do have U.S citizenship. You will press report buttons and cry as baby. You never had served in military and never had any real interest about this.

Why you do not fight for matushka in dumbass?
To press report buttons is easier.


BTW from where you had get that Ukr does have 130 missiles?
I don't know. Maybe one maybe 100 or 1000.

Last more or less offocial Neptune test was with 280 km range and 150 km warhead. Years ago.

Please drop nuke insted to troll here for paycheck and masturbate here with report buttons pressing from multiple profiles....take alco portion and report ...cry baby.
Way how you here had insulted posters during 4 years in row is predictable annoying mechanical chatbot type trolling. Not only about ukr stuff here....

 

[Cid]

Sea drones releasing FPV drones now

 

[PEB]

But drones and missiles are not the same now, are they? How much death and destruction did Russia achieve with a missile strike in Kiev compared to Ukraine's drone strike in Moscow?

You don't think Zelensky should take this conflict to the next level and hit Moscow with a Neptune missile?

What damage can this new modified Ukrainian Neptune missile cause?
. Warhead: 330 lb (150 kg)
. Range: 600 miles (970 Km)
. Casualty rate in an urban center (Moscow): 22,171

A SRBM (short-range ballistic missile) with an average of 540kg HE payload would create an explosive damage radius of up to 1.06km (0.6 miles). In an urban center there could be up to 77,600 casualties in the affected area. Roughly a 3.5 ratio to the Neptune missile. So, if one Neptune missile gets through Moscow's air defense system, a casualty rate of roughly 22,000 dead civilians is expected. Is this what Zelensky is thinking of doing with these missiles? I would say that in a way Ukraine has now gained its "nuclear" capabilities back. All Ukrainian nukes went back to Russia after 1991. People crying about how Ukraine lost its nuclear arsenal to Russia. They now have the Neptune missile. About 130 units. Why not use it? What could possibly go wrong? Also, how does Europe and the US now feel about this missile? The British Storm Shadow missile only has a 250 km range.

Ukraine's new modified Neptune missile system:
View attachment 1087378

But I guess hitting an area with 500 lb dumb bombs is totally cool? One time one hit a children's hospital. Large enough to throw bodies out of the hospital? This was the 3rd largest hospital in Ukraine.

Ukraine: Russian ‘dumb bomb’ air strike killed civilians in Chernihiv – new investigation and testimony

Attack on March 3 killed people as they queued for bread Lethal air strike may constitute a war crime A Russian air strike that reportedly killed 47 civilians in the Ukrainian city of Chernihiv may constitute a war crime, Amnesty International said today following an investigation into the...

www.amnesty.org

Russia's Bombing of Kyiv Children's Hospital Backfires on Kremlin

The United Nations Security Council is to hold today an emergency session in response.

www.nysun.com

 

[SandisLL]

Baba-Yaga uses Starlink?!?!

Not likely.
Usually they are using this large agricultural drone during dark night.

These usually does have powerful night visoon equipment and thremals.

It is told that they now in some cases are using yaga with fiber optic cable... then yaga isn't sensitive vs radioelectronic warfare and it it very difficult to get where is located yaga operator.

Yaga does have big advantages : this might carry relatively huge orndance payload.

However usually yaga doesn't have long range.
Big minus is that yaga is loud drone.

Therefore they prefer to use yaga when is night and enough loud sounds in area.

While these yaga drones really might drop in trench for example 2 - 120 mm mortar " shells "...


Ukr does have yaga with 6 or 8 engines, usually....