International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

Two questions that I could not figure the answer to.

1. Why did Russia attack Ukraine ?

2. Why did Biden and the US send billions to Ukraine ?

Nice opinion: without yanks they will be more happy ...
I don't think that for Ukraine to be friendly with U.S was good thing.

I think you should not send any bare thing and this will be cool.

Especially if U.S will stop sell overpriced weapons and expensive LNG for europe.

Please go and sit in isolationism....

This will be better. For everyone....

LOL.

 

[SandisLL]

Nice fortune telling: Medvedev was not correct that Eurasian Empire will be from Lisbon till Vladivostok..more and more looks that Eurasian Empire sooner or later will be from Taiwan till Lisbon.
Later ofc might be larger than just this.

 

[San Marino]

Two questions that I could not figure the answer to.
1. Why did Russia attack Ukraine?

Ukraine has been a pawn between the West and Russia. Ukraine's bid to join NATO was something unacceptable by the Russians. Russia repeatedly told Ukraine how they felt about Ukraine being a member of NATO. Again, like the Soviets placing nuclear missiles in Cuba and how the US felt about that. The second part is how the West wants to use Ukraine to destabilize Russia and possibly take Putin out of power. Also, Uncle Joe said a minor incursion by Russia into Ukraine would be fine by him.

2. Why did Biden and the US send billions to Ukraine?

To keep Russia from taking over all of Ukraine. Just enough help to keep Ukraine from losing but not enough help to help it win the conflict.

• Russian forces recently advanced into northern Sumy Oblast for the first time since 2022 – when Ukrainian forces pushed Russian forces from significant swathes of Ukrainian territory following the initial months of Russian advances. Russian forces likely intend to leverage limited advances into Sumy Oblast to completely expel Ukrainian forces from Kursk Oblast among other objectives.
• Russian forces also recently intensified offensive operations aimed at seizing Chasiv Yar and attacking Kostyantynivka – the southernmost settlement of Ukraine's fortress belt in Donetsk Oblast.
• Russian forces intensified their multi-directional campaign to eliminate the remaining Ukrainian salient in Kursk Oblast on March 7 and 8.
• Russian forces appear to be destroying bridges in Kursk Oblast and along the international border, likely as part of efforts to prevent Ukrainian forces from withdrawing from Kursk Oblast into Ukraine.
• Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Toretsk and Pokrovsk, and Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Toretsk and Pokrovsk.

Seems like baby strollers, donkeys, and the 'crutch' Brigade are finally paying off.

 

[Badr Hari]

Two questions that I could not figure the answer to.

1. Why did Russia attack Ukraine ?

2. Why did Biden and the US send billions to Ukraine ?

1. Ukrainians hate russians

2. Russians hate americans

 

[San Marino]

1) Zelensky didn't refuse to participate in any peace talks, quite the contrary, Trump refused Ukraine the chance to participate in the first Saudi Arabia talks.

The minerals deal Zelensky was going to sign at the White House was the first step towards a peace agreement with Russia. Zelensky fucked that up. The man is unable to 'read' people or the room. Think of Kamala Harris.

2) Zelensky's approval rating was at 55% or something when Trump said it was at 4%, now is at 67% now that Trump is apparently a Russian asset.

Not sure where you are getting those numbers. Fake news? The Ukrainian people and the military are tired of this war. Zelensky and his arrogance are prolonging this war. If elections were held in Ukraine today, Zelensky would lose. Trump is not a Russian asset. The US has had an easier time dealing with Russia than Ukraine on working out a peace deal for this conflict.

3) USA provided 118 billion dollar help, which is less than the EU + Europe.

Well, the US is one country, Europe is made up of many countries.
Congress appropriated $174.2 billion through the five Ukraine supplemental appropriation acts enacted FY 2022 through FY 2024, of which $163.6 billion was allocated for OAR and the Ukraine response, and $10.6 billion was allocated for other, primarily humanitarian, purposes.

That's just a bonus, you didn't mention that, but I'd like to see you Putin lovers admit that Trump lied.

Not a Putin lover and did not vote for Trump. Trump did not lie. Russia has every right to want to keep Ukraine out of NATO like the US wanted to keep Soviet nuclear missiles out of Cuba.

Just like Trump lied when he said that Zelensky is a dictator.

Zelensky is currently a dictator in Ukraine. He has locked away the opposition, closed the church, withheld elections, and is now kidnapping young boys in the streets to go fight in the front lines. He has enriched himself with money given to Ukraine to fight the Russians. He knows he is a dead man the minute this conflict ends. Zelensky had one chance to end this conflict in 2022 but chose to keep it going. He wants the conflict to keep going for at least another year.

 

[San Marino]

J.D. Vance is a joke.

No, Kamala Harris was a joke.

 

[San Marino]

 

[San Marino]

Putin ramps up attacks as Ukraine flies blind​

MSN

 

[San Marino]

Trump pushes Zelenskyy to make territorial concessions, may want him to step down​

MSN

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Nice opinion: without yanks they will be more happy ...
I don't think that for Ukraine to be friendly with U.S was good thing.

I think you should not send any bare thing and this will be cool.

Especially if U.S will stop sell overpriced weapons and expensive LNG for europe.

Please go and sit in isolationism....

This will be better. For everyone....

LOL.

At this point UKR would be better off going cold turkey with the US, Trump cut off aid and stopped intelligence sharing. Now he demands the mineral deal without continuing aid or any type of security agreement. He is trying to blackmail UKR but has no "cards" if he cut off UKR anyway...unless he will start sending intelligence to Russia and even try to stop the sanctions and at this point would not surprise me.
It's like he is hoping for a UKR surrender so he can act like he stopped this war.

 

[SandisLL]

At this point UKR would be better off going cold turkey with the US, Trump cut off aid and stopped intelligence sharing. Now he demands the mineral deal without continuing aid or any type of security agreement. He is trying to blackmail UKR but has no "cards" if he cut off UKR anyway...unless he will start sending intelligence to Russia and even try to stop the sanctions and at this point would not surprise me.
It's like he is hoping for a UKR surrender so he can act like he stopped this war.

Ofc
BTW Russia is happy.
Definitely Belarus, Iran and North Korea will continue support for Russia , in the same time Ukr is ...almost abadoned.

So Putin will order push more and more on order to get all these 4 oblastjs and looks that even will increase demands from Ukr more and more....
Later might demand additional oblastjs etc...why not.

If they will reach ceasefire there not lesser than 50% + risk that they will attack again....

Talks about " bla bla bla peace treaty " I think will be long...maybe in best case some treaty will be signed autumn.
While highly possible than only late summer 2026 th....

Cos if from power position Lavrov will demand more and more.
Why not?
We don't know details, just simple plain texts about rus demands.
While Definitely they does have huge batch with papers they will demand to sign. Not just 1 -2-3 pages paper....

 

[USA!USA!]

At this point UKR would be better off going cold turkey with the US, Trump cut off aid and stopped intelligence sharing. Now he demands the mineral deal without continuing aid or any type of security agreement. He is trying to blackmail UKR but has no "cards" if he cut off UKR anyway...unless he will start sending intelligence to Russia and even try to stop the sanctions and at this point would not surprise me.
It's like he is hoping for a UKR surrender so he can act like he stopped this war.

or.. he is hoping for a UKR surrender.. because that is what his employer wants.

 

[Strychnine]

Ukraine still knows where the Russian oil production is without U.S. assistance.




Wow. It was like that scene in "A Bronx Tale."

"You had a chance to leave... Now you CAN'T leave."

 

[San Marino]

At this point UKR would be better off going cold turkey with the US, Trump cut off aid and stopped intelligence sharing. Now he demands the mineral deal without continuing aid or any type of security agreement. He is trying to blackmail UKR but has no "cards" if he cut off UKR anyway.

All this is part of the 1st step in a series of steps to stop this conflict. The US wants certain guarantees from Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine wants guarantees. Russia wants guarantees. The minerals deal was the 1st step for Ukraine. Zelensky fucked that up and is now without US aid and intelligence. Russia has been threatened with more sanctions from the US or the lifting of sanctions. Putin will be satisfied with Ukraine out of NATO and 20% to 30% of eastern Ukraine. Russia does not have the means to take over all of Ukraine. Putin understands how the process and the steps work, Zelensky does not. At this stage of the game, Zelensky is making the peace process for Ukraine very, very, difficult and dragging this war out. The lack of US military equipment and supplies will not start to affect Ukraine for another 2 to 3 weeks. Let us see what Ukraine will do when that time comes, and they run out of ammunition. Anything new from Europe will also not reach the Ukrainian front lines for another 2 to 3 weeks. Maybe longer.

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine still knows where the Russian oil production is without U.S. assistance.

Warthog Defense videos.

Russia Pushes Ukrainian Forces Back in Kursk After U.S. Halts Support​

MSN

 

[San Marino]

Russia recaptured three villages in Kursk as Ukraine lost ground. DeepState reported a "breach" in Ukrainian defenses near Sudzha. Nearly 10,000 Ukrainian troops risk encirclement. Maps show three-quarters of Ukrainian forces inside Russia are nearly cut off. Zelensky called for sanctions after Russian airstrikes killed 14. Trump claimed Europe struggles to end the war. Ukraine remains committed to US talks in Saudi Arabia.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

or.. he is hoping for a UKR surrender.. because that is what his employer wants.

Hard to say at this point, the man is all over the map but and maybe UKR just needs to come to the conclusion that Trump just wants to steal what ever he can from UKR before he looks like a hero and shines Putlers shoes at the same time. Walk away and hopefully the news about what Trump is doing will shame him one way or another as I seen today big protests against Trumps position at white house today and Vance getting shit on everywhere also.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russia recaptured three villages in Kursk as Ukraine lost ground. DeepState reported a "breach" in Ukrainian defenses near Sudzha. Nearly 10,000 Ukrainian troops risk encirclement. Maps show three-quarters of Ukrainian forces inside Russia are nearly cut off. Zelensky called for sanctions after Russian airstrikes killed 14. Trump claimed Europe struggles to end the war. Ukraine remains committed to US talks in Saudi Arabia.

I think UKR holding Kursk this long is a surprise to everyone and a humiliation to your hero Putler. Russia will take this back at some point but at a massive cost as the roads of death videos are real especially when shown by Russians. Putler ordered to take this back at all costs and the costs have been huge. Maybe that's why Russian gains have slowed or stopped in the East because they had to transfer troops and resources to this area.
This was a great move by the UKR army assuming they can get their troops out with minimal loses should they need to retreat.

 

[Zookeeper Gabe]

I don’t know if this is real, but I hope it is.

 

[San Marino]

I think UKR holding Kursk this long is a surprise to everyone and a humiliation to your hero Putler.

No, not really. The Ukrainian Army is (was) getting plenty of military help from the US and Europe. It did not do it by itself.
Again, Putin is not my hero, and I did not vote for Trump. I believe Russia has the same rights the US had in 1962.

Russia will take this back at some point but at a massive cost.

Yes, I think we all know that by now. A reflection of their history in WWII.

This was a great move by the UKR army assuming they can get their troops out with minimal loses should they need to retreat.

It was a terrible move by the Ukrainian Army. 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers will most likely be killed by the Russians.
Why don't you address the fact that Russia is currently winning this conflict, and the casualties Ukraine is taking?
Russia is getting the 'carrot' while Ukraine is getting the 'stick.' Ukraine holds no 'cards.' Russia and the United States do.
Let us see where the Russian economy stands in June and also where this conflict stands in June. Europe is not coming to save Ukraine, they can't even save themselves. All talk and photo opportunities, but in the end, Europe relies heavily on the US for its defense. It is a different conversation behind closed doors.