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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

What stuff Putin told muricans?
That he wants peace....
In order to delay/ stop supplies for Ukr.

Thus far he achieved goal: new administration didn't had signed any new bill for Ukr.

While in real life Putin is continuing to hire soldiers and keeping attempts to get more and more land each day. BTW Putin's forces are attempting to move forward 24/7 ....where they are able to move forward.....
Putin also is increasing number of soldiers and technique he is using in dumbass area..
 
Nothing much different from 2022 th.
March 2022th. Europe offered Putin not to implement sanctions if Putin will end war.
Putin continued.


Even this XI then told that better is if there will be peace. Putin continued.
Pope told bla bla bla. Putin continued.
U.N for a reason appeared useless to impact Putin ...
 
Trump seems completely out of depth in foreign policy. His strong armed tactics that might have worked in real estate and American business's doesn't work with dictators like Putin and leaders literally fighting for their Country's existence.
Not necessarily disagreeing as I didn't when everyone was saying he should be tough on him. Putin cares more about his pride than any of this. China has increased trade to Russia. He isn't too worried. But everyone saying Trump loves putin etc was nonsense. Putin was interested in peace talks at one point which means he's had more than he wanted out of Ukraine. Let's see
 
What is the benefit of continuing this war in Ukraine with all the death and destruction? Wouldn't you want the war to end. Trump is literally trying to make peace everywhere and people are upset.

It's not that he's trying to make peace, it's how he's doing it. Should Ukraine just captiulate and give in to Russia's demands? Should Ukraine get no assistance when they're willing and successfully defending their country?

Would you let someone come into your home, rape, pillage, and destroy, THEN try have an outside party say "Well, you should just talk to them instead of throwing them out."?
 


Ukraine continues with the counterattack.




Russian soldier shocked as he walks past the bodies that were once his comrades.
 
Russia hasn't achieved a SINGLE objective set in their SMO 3 years ago, and you are dumb enough to say "in many ways Russia has already won"
Yes, they have.
Ukraine has not joined NATO.
You people need to get out of your bubble that Ukraine is winning and had no fault in its own invasion.
Russia is currently taking more Ukrainian territory. You need to stop watching stupid biased videos.
 


Ukrainian success in Pokrovsk.
 
It's not that he's trying to make peace, it's how he's doing it. Should Ukraine just captiulate and give in to Russia's demands? Should Ukraine get no assistance when they're willing and successfully defending their country?

Would you let someone come into your home, rape, pillage, and destroy, THEN try have an outside party say "Well, you should just talk to them instead of throwing them out."?

I wouldn't but I wouldn't completely sacrifice my own people also. Ukraine is sacrificing their own men. As a leader you have to make a deal when you don't have the cards and Ukraine does not have the cards. Trump is seeing the bigger picture. Ukraine will not win.
 
Thats a shitty thing to do, we should give then NATO and EU membership. Instead we look weak and trump looks like a pussy, hes geting outsmarted by putler.
Nobody listens to what you have to say. Uncle Joe loving liberal.
Ukraine does not belong in NATO and Uncle Joe was the pussy. Didn't Uncle Joe say that it was okay for Putin to start a small incursion into Ukraine? Go back to giving nomenclature of military equipment. That is the only thing you are good at.
 
I wouldn't but I wouldn't completely sacrifice my own people also. Ukraine is sacrificing their own men. As a leader you have to make a deal when you don't have the cards and Ukraine does not have the cards. Trump is seeing the bigger picture. Ukraine will not win.

Russia can't win.

Russia needs ALL of Ukraine to achieve its goals and Russia no longer has the manpower to occupy and pacify a hostile nation. The numbers just aren't there for them to do so. YES, Ukrainians are dying, but whose fault is that? Pres. Zelenskyy for leading his nation or Putin's for attacking just because he could?

Let's not forget that Russians are dying also... IN DROVES. It will always be harder on the defender vs. the attacker.
Ukraine has a weak hand, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a losing one. They just have to play smart and have been doing so.


 


Timestamped observation from an active-duty U.S. Army officer.
 
I wouldn't but I wouldn't completely sacrifice my own people also. Ukraine is sacrificing their own men. As a leader you have to make a deal when you don't have the cards and Ukraine does not have the cards. Trump is seeing the bigger picture. Ukraine will not win.
Ofc will not win. I had posted long ago that west never will allow this to happen.

West loves Matushka...m
Therefore also all these supplies were ...like to keep patient alive but never allow to walk.

Yes, pragmatic choice is to sign everything Putin will demand
Just ppl need time to travel till western Ukraine before Matushka will get these oblastjs....

And after war will end emigrate from Ukraine in order not to sit in debts and poverty for generations. Btw maybe then dreamers will remain and pay debts and live in dreams.


Delusional dreamland. Where are these missiles they talked about since 2019 th?
 
BTW maybe good real long term peace solution might be to negotiate to turn western Ukraine into Chinatown, these 5 oblastjs for Putin and life will be happy.
Anyway if western Ukraine will be Chinatown with a lot of chinesse ...this will be better security guarantee than any signed papers ( toilet papers will be more usable ).

How much worth are signed papers excellent lecture is Molotov Ribentropp pact with secret protocols.
Friends had signed and one from them get attacked by his this friend Adolf.

History had proved how worth are papers.
Multiple times btw. Endless examples.
 
If I were Putin I would look to secure own borders before setting eyes on other nations. Resource shortages are real. China, US and Europe explored everything in their vicinity. Who knows what riches Siberia hides.
 
If I were Putin I would look to secure own borders before setting eyes on other nations. Resource shortages are real. China, US and Europe explored everything in their vicinity. Who knows what riches Siberia hides.
Putin is on the wrong side of Father Time for that. Putin wants to be remembered as an expansionist and to take back land lost from the fall of the Soviet Union..

Putin Must move forward..

His predecessor can be remembered for securing the borders..
 
After weeks of denial, Ukrainian source are finally admitting that Russian forces have advanced from the Kursk region into Ukraine’s Sumy region, which cuts off key Ukrainian military logistics, and expands the war across eight (8) regions. Independent Journalist Patrick Lancaster shared the latest from near the frontlines in the Lugansk region, where he is stationed with Russian Special Forces, and he noted that while Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia are Russian territories under Russian law, the additional gains Moscow’s forces have made in the Kharkov and Sumy regions are not. Therefore, that extra territory could be used for negotiations, if needed. But neither Russia now Ukraine is ready for a ceasefire right now, and so, the war continues.
 
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Russia can't win.
Russia is currently winning this conflict.
Russia needs ALL of Ukraine to achieve its goals and Russia no longer has the manpower to occupy and pacify a hostile nation.
No, Russia does not need all of Ukraine. It currently has taken over 20% of the country and may end up taking 30% to 40% by the time it is all said and done. Ukraine does not have the manpower to fight this war for another year.
 
Russia is currently winning this conflict.

No, Russia does not need all of Ukraine. It currently has taken over 20% of the country and may end up taking 30% to 40% by the time it is all said and done. Ukraine does not have the manpower to fight this war for another year.

(Ukraine has over 900,000 deployed and nearly 2 million in reserve. They haven't even started conscripting people under 25, their military is larger today than when the war started)
 
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