International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[AWilder]

it is amusing how the lesson people like @b-hop learned from WW2 and how it escalated was to let the aggressor just take the countries and land they want, because it is not worth starting a War by trying to ensure those countries can prevent that by defending themselves.

They ignore history and would have us repeat the exact same path again.

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[PEB]

 

[aerius]

Let's see what actual professionals say about the current situation.
Hint. It ain't good for the Ukraine, they're kinda fucked.

 

[b-hop]

Let's see what actual professionals say about the current situation.
Hint. It ain't good for the Ukraine, they're kinda fucked.

I thought the professionals were the chosen ones the shertards of the platform.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Let's see what actual professionals say about the current situation.
Hint. It ain't good for the Ukraine, they're kinda fucked.

Lol, ok Scott Ritter they have been out of troops and aid for years now but yet still manage to hold on....

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I don't think using donkeys being in itself is a crazy idea, but they way they're using it does look crazy. They've been at this war for more than 3 years now and so this isn't the first time they've gone through this weather. Why pull out the donkeys now?

It's because they are low on vehicles plain and simple....imagine the speed difference to bring supplies to the front.

 

[Strychnine]

Wowwww... The Russian army threw this guy in a pit, jacked his car, wrecked it, then maxed out his card that was left in the car.

Second greatest army in the world...

 

[Strychnine]

Pres. Zelenskyy is a hero.

 

[San Marino]

I don't think using donkeys being in itself is a crazy idea, but they way they're using it does look crazy. They've been at this war for more than 3 years now and so this isn't the first time they've gone through this weather. Why pull out the donkeys now?

Donkeys move more quietly than a tank and are able to get through places a tank normally can't go. They are ideal for carrying supplies up and down mountains. They are very sure-footed animals -- more than a horse. Even though they are not being used for that purpose. It worked well in Afghanistan. Donkeys don't require the maintenance and fuel that a tank uses, and it keeps the owner warm during cold periods. Much like a camel, it can warn the owner if predators are around -- to include Ukrainian soldiers. Similar to dogs used by the U.S. Army.

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine doesn't have any rare earth metals, and the strategic minerals it does have are not worth trillions of dollars​

MSN

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Zelensky willing to give up presidency for Nato membership

Ukrainian president also rules out US-Ukraine minerals deal if it meant repaying Washington for military aid already provided under Biden

www.independent.co.uk

It does not matter. The people, no wait, the corrupt political hierarchy of Ukraine, would just elect another corrupt politician to run the country.

Also,

Why Russia wants Ukraine to join the EU​

MSN

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Ukraine doesn't have any rare earth metals, and the strategic minerals it does have are not worth trillions of dollars​

MSN

I guess that's the real question, Trump making these crazy demands but at same time where exactly are these locations located considering much of this is under Russian occupation.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Donkeys move more quietly than a tank and are able to get through places a tank normally can't go. They are ideal for carrying supplies up and down mountains. They are very sure-footed animals -- more than a horse. Even though they are not being used for that purpose. It worked well in Afghanistan. Donkeys don't require the maintenance and fuel that a tank uses, and it keeps the owner warm during cold periods. Much like a camel, it can warn the owner if predators are around -- to include Ukrainian soldiers. Similar to dogs used by the U.S. Army.

As far as I know UKR doesnt have too many mountain areas where the donkeys will be needed. And also tanks dont provide supplies it comes in big 4x4 trucks for the most part...but im sure you knew that.

 

[Anewt]

Ukraine doesn't have any rare earth metals, and the strategic minerals it does have are not worth trillions of dollars​

MSN

Ukraine's mineral wealth

According to recent estimates, Ukraine has the largest titanium reserves in Europe and seven per cent of the world's reserves, as well as the largest lithium reserves in Europe. It also has significant production capacity when it comes to rare earth minerals.3 days ago.



But in fairness no they dont have billions of " rare earth minerals "

Take out the word " rare "
What is Ukraine's biggest natural resource?
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores; 2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves; 2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3B tons, or 12% of the world's reserves); 2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30B tons); 2nd ...

 

[SandisLL]

Let's see what actual professionals say about the current situation.
Hint. It ain't good for the Ukraine, they're kinda fucked.

We do know this comrade. We had excepted that Ukr will fold quickly.

I even agree that for them maybe better might be if they had elected someone like Lukashenko and ruler had sanctioned U.K and U.S, appease Putin in order to get discounts for crude oil, fertilizers and natural gas supplies.

However did this super paper expert had told that he is 0 worth?

Maybe he should start to talk about anglo saxonians banks registered in Austria and operating in Ukraine and Russia, really slow operations closure rate even after sanctions....now ofc barely something remained.

Sanction Ukraine needed U.K as first target, then U.S.
Nice life without listening anglo saxonians.

"Anglo saxonians are weak and stupid, their sanctions doesn't work. They are lurking to occupy Belarus and always will be our enemies.":
Lukashenko for their local media.

 

[SandisLL]

As far as I know UKR doesnt have too many mountain areas where the donkeys will be needed. And also tanks dont provide supplies it comes in big 4x4 trucks for the most part...but im sure you knew that.

Russia mainly is using for supplies 4x4 and 6x6 trucks and jeeps, also civilian models, plus quadracycles and ground drones, also these minibuses called buhanka etc stuff.

In some areas near frontline they are using guys to walk with ammo etc last 1-6 miles till frontline. Such guys in small special operation even does have nickname " nesuni " ... maybe some general told Putin that donkeys here might be used.
Putin maybe had lurked some old paintings with donkeys and ordered to deliver donkeys.

 

[SandisLL]

Idiotic ideology guessing that by appeasing Putin and cede him Ukraine might disturb Russia ties with China, North Korea and Iran is pure bullshit. Yanks can't offer Russia things these countries easily might offer... dreamers here are yanks and they will lost sooner or later.

Yanks doesn't have mountains with cheap mainstream production, can't offer if here political will, with discounts rare earth metals and explosives fo cheap... They simply can't and there are other things Yanks can't get : Russia hates Yanks.... Iran, NK and China too.

Yanks are thinking just like some businessmans. Mentality in Russia had been developed to hate Yanks....during generations.

Therefore they were able as cultural norm to build bomb shelters in factories even if this demanded huge investments....in order maybe Yanks will bomb their civilian factories....cos simply Yanks are their enemies lurking to invade them etc.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Why would yas want to lose that much money? When you own the lions share you basically have taken over the world.... or a 3rd of it

According to recent data, the United States is significantly wealthier than the rest of the world, holding around 30% of global wealth,

You have 4% of the global population.

You have basically taken over the world already. Why blow it up?

I wasn't arguing for that I was just pointing out it was possible. To some extent we did take the moral high ground by honoring our alliances. Russia might have consolidated it's power over the territory it controlled but I don't think we can be blamed for that.

 

[Cid]

 

[SandisLL]

There in Russia under Lenin was doctrine that Russians blood to achieve world hegemony should not get used. Instead to do this, russians life should be improved and with capitalists in western countries should deal locals from inside without any direct war done.
Lenin loved russians a lot. He had ordered to print a lot of books for schools and his first tasks were to improve living standarts in St Pete. Leningrad name was for a reason. This was last ruler in Russia who really loved russians a lot.

Under Stalin propaganda they now 100 years in row are talking how yanks will collapse, europe will collapse etc bullshit....this is way how generations had been rised and taught.
Stalin when didn't get Western Berlin had ....nice cool proxy war in Korea. Supported by USSR and China.
China in exchange get assistance in nuclear research field...huge assistance.
Just 4 years after anglo saxonians business partner had shaked hands and danced with happiness, Stalin after nuclear test had launched Cold War.

A lot of ppl are accusing Truman.
Why? When he get to read papers signed by senile FDL and Winston....Jesus Christ.

If these senile degenerates didn't had ceded part of Europe to Kremlin, Russia didn't had ability to develop nuclear weapons at least till 1953 th and cos this idiots might had avoided Korea war....at least this.
Stupidity doesn't have borders.