International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

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If about elections Germany will have...Putin is very interested to take popcorn and wait.
After elections they will discuss before to form coalition....maybe talks will be very long, maybe no.

In Germany there are 3 political parties oriented against ykr.
AfD, then one far left wing party and one far right wing party ( with nationalists ....maybe even worse than maga. ).
Will see how much % they will get.
 
Stuff about Germany is very important and not because they supposedly does have more money and supposedly is hegemon in Europe.
They are not. Anymore.

While for example does have immediate de facto power will Ukr get next missiles for IRIS T or no. Etc like stuff.
Olaf is reluctant to allow send long range weapons in order not to escalate. Basically it does means that Ukr are scheduled as 🥩 meat journeyman scheduled to loss like journeyman booked in away corner in Boxing...this.


There ofc isn't talk about some wunderwaffe.
Germany does have a lot of mines and ammo for 105 mm arty from Cold war era...
 
Hog-train said:
Trump is basically giving Russia everything they want.

1. They get to keep the land they have captured.
2. Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO.
3. End to the fighting, because it's bankrupting Russia.

So WTF kind of negotiation is that? Russia is giving up nothing.
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Seems to me the problem is that Putin looks like he's now in a very strong position at the table. If talks were happening in 2023 maybe things might be different but as we stand now it looks like the Ukrainians ability to retain territory is very limited and the Russians are winning an attractional war due to having much greater resources of manpower and artillery. They've taken quite a bit of territory west of Donetsk in the last few months(which was I'd guess some of the most well defended in the country given its been a frontline since 2014) and the worry now seems to be that the advance may speed up with the Ukrainians being pushed to breaking point under terrible conditions with seemingly little its allies are able(or willing) to do to stop that?
 
Chernobyl isn't nuclear power plant anymore. It is peace of shit with nice soil ...with beauty graphite etc particles in earth. Place why cocky europe had decided to apply sanctions after they had started to dig trenches in Red Forest after Ukr and Russia had milked europe almost like dairy cows about safety in this area during decades. Degenerate level.
 
Casual clickbait money hungry parasites stuff.
Chernobyl isn't nuclear power plant anymore. Ofc nice red forest etc beauties.

Trump had re started weapons supplies.
 
Trump had told that he does want to reach ceasefire on current frontline and after this to get discussions between ukr and Russia about possible peace deal.

He had supplied Poland 28 main battle tanks, they looks that are M1A2 Sep3 with upgraded package.
Ukr had get 31 M1A1 SA version allowed for export for Morocco and Egypt in 2004 th.
 
moreorless87 said:
Seems to me the problem is that Putin looks like he's now in a very strong position at the table. If talks were happening in 2023 maybe things might be different but as we stand now it looks like the Ukrainians ability to retain territory is very limited and the Russians are winning an attractional war due to having much greater resources of manpower and artillery. They've taken quite a bit of territory west of Donetsk in the last few months(which was I'd guess some of the most well defended in the country given its been a frontline since 2014) and the worry now seems to be that the advance may speed up with the Ukrainians being pushed to breaking point under terrible conditions with seemingly little its allies are able(or willing) to do to stop that?
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Yup. UKR is fucked. Russia gonna Russia and now with the Americans calling time on their funding for the war... It's over.
 
Basically who wants it most is gonna win. Ukraine itself was never a player, not a NATO member. From the wests perspective it was probably all an effort to sell weapons and sap Russia.

Tbh thank goodness.
 
Phlog said:
Basically who wants it most is gonna win. Ukraine itself was never a player, not a NATO member. From the wests perspective it was probably all an effort to sell weapons and sap Russia.

Tbh thank goodness.
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West mainly had supplied old crap anyway to get decommissioned. Also doesn't looks that they even ever had bothered to supply in time and normally. Like if there voters are concerned about refugees and threats, will supply something till next yelling. Not more than this.

We do have time for generations while you are thinking about next elections. Therefore we will win. Putin. 2008 th.

Moldova should be de nazified yesterday, our world is peace and friendship we will deliver till Belrin. Dimitri Medvedev.
Kazahstan is fake country and their language is fake shit. Dimitry Medvedev, deputy secretary of security council of Russian Federation.

Looks that after call from Emperor Xi Hitler had ordered to delete this shit from TG profile.

We should mobilize unemployed guys and to send them to Ukraine today for deNazification special operation. Ivanov, member of State Duma. May 2022 th.
We should eliminate Moldova from face of earth today. Morozov. Member of state Duma. April 2022 th.
 
Phlog said:
Yup. UKR is fucked. Russia gonna Russia and now with the Americans calling time on their funding for the war... It's over.
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From one point sad reality is that Kissinger was correct: to have bithces as friends is more fatal
than to have them as enemies. Looks that Kim and Lukashenko already de facto had proved reality.
" funding " from pro Kremlin oriented anglo saxonians overpriced their old crap etc. Kissing Kremlin, dems and reps and U.K with Germany?
Funding of U.S should end today. To fund U.S MIC and unfortunately drunk Medvedev maybe was correct when had told that Eurasian Empire is future as world hegemon. Sad reality and loosers in cocky west.
Loosers.
Hegemon place is discussed but this isn't anymore U.S or Russia. No one from these.

You just have time till one from 2 potential hegemons will negotiate and then.....Russia and U.S will get fucked completely.
 
Phlog said:
Basically who wants it most is gonna win. Ukraine itself was never a player, not a NATO member. From the wests perspective it was probably all an effort to sell weapons and sap Russia.

Tbh thank goodness.
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Well they weren't giving their best to Ukraine so if that was the plan, it was a very poor one.

Ukraine isn't out of the fight yet. Europe, especially the countries that have a gripe against Russia, will still supply weapons. I think they'd rather give weapons to Ukraine than have to potentially fight the Russians themselves if Russian troops are along their border.
Everybody forgot how Ukraine kicked Russian ass before the west started to send support.
 
pugilistico said:
Well they weren't giving their best to Ukraine so if that was the plan, it was a very poor one.

Ukraine isn't out of the fight yet. Europe, especially the countries that have a gripe against Russia, will still supply weapons. I think they'd rather give weapons to Ukraine than have to potentially fight the Russians themselves if Russian troops are along their border.
Everybody forgot how Ukraine kicked Russian ass before the west started to send support.
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There is one thing: pro Ukr propaganda type " you will be next, give us everything today " plus pro Kremlin oriented anglo saxonians loving Putin a lot.

Europe will not deplete any normal stockpiles but increase these because they will have large scale war and ....with opinion that yanks and U.K will sit in basements and call their friend Putin.
Question is not will they have large scale war or no. Question is WHEN.

So 0 hope that they will deplete any normal stockpiles.....0 hope.

Ofc they might gave money and if will purchase something extra, might send something to ukr too.

While what kind of stuff?
For example U.S appeared not capable to deliver HIMARS quickly. They had delivered 20 launchers for Poland. South Korea delivered 90 launchers but South Korea is pro Kremlin oriented country and will not allow re export to Ukr.
Ofc they Most likely will not even agree that launchers will be used against their friends from Matushka if they will attack Poland. While then they not likely will listen putinoids from Seul: will switch off GPS modules and use launchers.

Till this ofc they will not trigger putinoids from South Korea and pro Kremlin oriented Israel ....in order to continue get next supplies....
Ofc not likely they will read clauses if they will have war, SK and Israel might not even dream.

Before this.. yes will read and are reading clauses in sales contracts.
 
Phlog said:
Yup. UKR is fucked. Russia gonna Russia and now with the Americans calling time on their funding for the war... It's over.
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Nah, far from it. The EU will support Ukraine and Ukraine will continue to fight. For Russia to win, they need the entirety of Ukraine and they're on track to achieve that in 100 years.
 
Strychnine said:
Yeah, because Russia has been so careful in their attacks that they would NEVER do that.
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So Russia has been so wreckless with their missle strikes that they accidently hit the dome containing the worst nuclear disaster of the last four decades.... but only the week of anticipated peace talks are about to begin... and not the previous 135 weeks of the war.

Come on Stry, you don't believe that.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
So Russia has been so wreckless with their missle strikes that they accidently hit the dome containing the worst nuclear disaster of the last four decades.... but only the week of anticipated peace talks are about to begin... and not the previous 135 weeks of the war.

Come on Stry, you don't believe that.
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No one has said it's an accident that the Russians hit the dome at this exact point in time.
 
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