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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

What Russia wants is to take over the entire country, erase Ukrainian ethnic and political identity, feast on their resource wealth, and then leverage that control into geopolitical strength over Europe and the rest of the world. So no, I don't think a "peace negotiation" is gonna hold up very well lmao
No, that’s not true.

What Russia wants is

- keep the currently taken territory (yes, it is reality now)

- make Ukraine a neutral country when it comes to military alliances

- eradicate neo nazi movement and anti Russian movement (they banned Russian books, songs, schools, church etc )
 
No, that’s not true.

What Russia wants is

- keep the currently taken territory (yes, it is reality now)

- make Ukraine a neutral country when it comes to military alliances

- eradicate neo nazi movement and anti Russian movement (they banned Russian books, songs, schools, church etc )

You mean, that's what they're sacrificing hundreds of thousands of Russian boys to hopefully settle for.

Clearly the objective was for the whole thing and to continue on to Moldova.

Obviously those ambitions need to be scaled back due to the current military disaster.
 
You mean, that's what they're sacrificing hundreds of thousands of Russian boys to hopefully settle for.

Clearly the objective was for the whole thing and to continue on to Moldova.

Obviously those ambitions need to be scaled back due to the current military disaster.
Moldova ? Why ? To take Transnistria? There’s no need unless Moldova decides to become post Maidan Ukraine.
 
No, that’s not true.

What Russia wants is

- keep the currently taken territory (yes, it is reality now)

- make Ukraine a neutral country when it comes to military alliances

- eradicate neo nazi movement and anti Russian movement (they banned Russian books, songs, schools, church etc )
Hey buddy I got a bridge to sell ya lol
 
Moldova ? Why ? To take Transnistria? There’s no need unless Moldova decides to become post Maidan Ukraine.

Well, I guess I can be more specific, Moldova, Latvia, Estonia, and yes Transnistria.

Clearly their attempt to take over the entire country failed and cost Russia the bulk of their experienced special forces in the failed attempt to capture Kyiv.
 
Russia is now at a point where it is refurbishing/producing as many armor vehicles/artillery as it is losing. Those old Soviet factories are being brought back online at a record pace. Unless NATO massively up its aid game, Ukraine will be at an increasing disadvantage in attritional warfare.
Moscow has massively ramped up its industry, giving it advantages in Ukraine and leading to a redistribution of wealth

by Andrew Roth
Thu 15 Feb 2024 17.16 GMT
As Ukraine has scrambled to source ammunition, arms and equipment for its defence, Russia has presided over a massive ramping up of industrial production over the last two years that has outstripped what many western defence planners expected when Vladimir Putin launched his invasion.

Total defence spending has risen to an estimated 7.5% of Russia’s GDP, supply chains have been redesigned to secure many key inputs and evade sanctions, and factories producing ammunition, vehicles and equipment are running around the clock, often on mandatory 12-hour shifts with double overtime, in order to sustain the Russian war machine for the foreseeable future.

The transformation has put defence at the centre of Russia’s economy. Putin claimed this month that 520,000 new jobs had been created in the military-industrial complex, which now employs an estimated 3.5 million Russians, or 2.5% of the population. Machinists and welders in Russian factories producing war equipment are now making more money than many white-collar managers and lawyers, according to a Moscow Times analysis of Russian labour data in November.

Putin on Thursday visited Uralvagonzavod, the country’s largest producer of main battle tanks, where workers boasted that it had been among the first to establish round the clock production. The Russian leader promised funding to help train an additional 1,500 qualified employees for the plant.

As Russia’s war in Ukraine drags into its third year, the massive Russian investment in the military, projected this year to be the largest as a share of GDP since the Soviet Union, has worried European war planners, who have said Nato underestimated Russia’s ability to sustain a long-term war.

“We still haven’t seen where is Russia’s breaking point,” said Mark Riisik, a deputy director in the policy planning department of Estonia’s defence ministry. “Basically one-third of their national budget is going on military production and on the war in Ukraine … But we don’t know when it will actually impact on society. So it’s a little bit challenging to say when will this stop.”
Russian factories claimed to have delivered 1,500 main battle tanks this year, of which 1,180 to 1,280 had been reactivated from storage, according to IISS. Those numbers, along with reactivated armoured personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, meant Russia would “be able to sustain its assault on Ukraine at current attrition rates for another two to three years, and maybe even longer”, the group said.

 
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Russian military TG channels starting to report that up to 7k Ukrainian troops are now encircled in Avdeevka.

I think Ukrainian military might have questions to Zelensky and his new general as to why they were not pulled back earlier to avoid this
 
Russia is now at a point where it is refurbishing/producing as many armor vehicles/artillery as it is losing. Those old Soviet factories are being brought back online at a record pace. Unless NATO massively up its aid game, Ukraine will be at an increasing disadvantage in attritional warfare.


0% chance Russia is producing 1500 tanks a year since they've lost over 3000 since this started.

That's just tanks, let alone everything else.
 
No, that’s not true.

What Russia wants is

- keep the currently taken territory (yes, it is reality now)

- make Ukraine a neutral country when it comes to military alliances

- eradicate neo nazi movement and anti Russian movement (they banned Russian books, songs, schools, church etc )

No one ever checks them on the "Russia wants all of Ukraine" point. And if you try they just ignore you and start spouting gibberish about Hitler and 1938.
 
No one ever checks them on the "Russia wants all of Ukraine" point. And if you try they just ignore you and start spouting gibberish about Hitler and 1938.
Lmao

Russia literally wants all of Ukraine. Putin just spent 2 hours going back to prehistoric times just to try and justify that Ukraine is not a real country and it's really part of Russia and it's all Lenin's fault.

Then you have to remember they actually tried to invade the entire country and capture the capital but failed miserably in the process.

This idea they only ever wanted what they currently are clinging on to at the cost of literally hundreds of thousands of their men is brain dead coping from useful idiot tankies like yourself.
 
Lmao

Russia literally wants all of Ukraine. Putin just spent 2 hours going back to prehistoric times just to try and justify that Ukraine is not a real country and it's really part of Russia and it's all Lenin's fault.

Then you have to remember they actually tried to invade the entire country and capture the capital but failed miserably in the process.

This idea they only ever wanted what they currently are clinging on to is brain dead coping from useful idiots like yourself.
Meh, western Ukraine is basically Poland and south west is Hungary, there’s zero connection to Russia in those regions
 
Lmao

Russia literally wants all of Ukraine. Putin just spent 2 hours going back to prehistoric times just to try and justify that Ukraine is not a real country and it's really part of Russia and it's all Lenin's fault.

Then you have to remember they actually tried to invade the entire country and capture the capital but failed miserably in the process.

This idea they only ever wanted what they currently are clinging on to is brain dead coping from useful idiots like yourself.

I keep trying to explain how seizing the capital doesn't mean conquering the capital after the war is over but you fail to understand this extremley basic concept.
 
Meh, western Ukraine is basically Poland and south west is Hungary, there’s zero connection to Russia in those regions
Really sucks then that Putin sacrificed hundreds of thousands to take it and got most of the VDV killed at Hostomel trying to capture it then doesn't it bud?
 
I keep trying to explain how seizing the capital doesn't mean conquering the capital after the war is over but you fail to understand this extremley basic concept.
Because no one believes your bullshit except online only losers like yourself.

Putin literally just gave an interview and the entire premise was that Ukraine is a fake country that doesn't even exist.
 
Because no one believes your bullshit except online only losers like yourself.

Putin literally just gave an interview and the entire premise was that Ukraine is a fake country that doesn't even exist.

No he meant their borders weren't meant to be a country hence why he is forcefully correcting them. But you are incapable of understanding basic concepts such as this you heard what you wanted to hear.

Ukranians are Russian but they have seperate history akin to Austria in Germany. This whole conflict was started by both halves of Ukraine being fundamentally different. Maybe if Tucker asked Putin "do you want Western Ukraine" Putin would have said something to this effect but Tucker Carlson didn't ask any questions because he realized how out intellectually of depth he was.
 
No he meant their borders weren't meant to be a country hence why he is forcefully correcting them. But you are incapable of understanding basic concepts such as this you heard what you wanted to hear.

Ukranians are Russian but they have seperate history akin to Austria in Germany. This whole conflict was started by both halves of Ukraine being fundamentally different. Maybe if Tucker asked Putin "do you want Western Ukraine" Putin would have said something to this effect but Tucker Carlson didn't ask any questions because he realized how out intellectually of depth he was.
Lmao so you're a Putin whisperer.

He just said with his own mouth Ukraine doesn't even exist while actively trying to make it not exist but he really means something else.

You're a fucking clown.
 
No he meant their borders weren't meant to be a country hence why he is forcefully correcting them. But you are incapable of understanding basic concepts such as this you heard what you wanted to hear.

Ukranians are Russian but they have seperate history akin to Austria in Germany. This whole conflict was started by both halves of Ukraine being fundamentally different. Maybe if Tucker asked Putin "do you want Western Ukraine" Putin would have said something to this effect but Tucker Carlson didn't ask any questions because he realized how out intellectually of depth he was.
"Their borders weren't meant to be a country" "he is forcefully correcting them"
Well there you have it, folks. Putin is just making a "forceful" correction to a country that shouldn't exist. No, he doesn't want to conquer them, he just wants to, eh, correct their existence
I'm sure if someone just sat down and explained this to all the Ukrainian people they would see things from his perspective. And, at that point, maybe Putin would be willing to give all their stolen children back.
 
Lmao so you're a Putin whisperer.

He just said with his own mouth Ukraine doesn't even exist while actively trying to make it not exist but he really means something else.

You're a fucking clown.
The intense disregard for Ukrainian life and freedom is really something. Imagine hating America so much that you cheer on the absolute heinous destruction of a country just so that you can virtue signal about it on the internet from your parents basement.
 
The intense disregard for Ukrainian life and freedom is really something. Imagine hating America so much that you cheer on the absolute heinous destruction of a country just so that you can virtue signal about it on the internet from your parents basement.

I mean he's obviously one of the most ridiculous losers on the internet and is so ridiculous he's probably just someone that got banned roleplaying. I stopped taking him seriously years ago.
 
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