International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[PEDS Help me Post]

Con artist zelensky has been caught buying luxury yachts with US money, worth over 50 million. I wouldn't be surprised if he disappeared forever with hundreds of millions in foreign bank accounts after swindling nato and getting many of his people killed instead of making a deal

Also wouldn't be surprised if he's killed or assassinated

Did he take his wife shopping again?

I mean, shit, I would too... the Pentagon's paying for it, why not?

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

So you admit that Ukraine is dependent on NATO for its survival. It wasn't that hard was it? The steadiness of that support is not guaranteed and will wane over time. Now the Ukrainians are having such manpower shortages that they cannot properly operate the systems they already have:

Ukraine official says it can't properly use its Western kit because it has so few soldiers left, report says

Ukraine's army is in such dire need of manpower that it is preventing it using some Western equipment, an aide to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told Time magazine.

www.businessinsider.com

Yet you want Ukrainians to keep throwing bodies into attritional warfare which heavily favors Russia. Now you're essentially saying Ukrainians don't get to determine how to end their own war. You remind me of Victoria Nuland essentially trying to pick who gets to lead the Ukrainian government or the same NATO politicians that determined NATO will be expanded to Ukraine in 2008.

NATO Summit Bucharest 2008

And you still want to dig Ukraine deeper for your geopolitical gains.

Unless the West is going to start putting boots on the ground, Ukraine will just run out of people. Tons of them are already dead and tons of them have already fled.

Where are they going to get more? The Americans going to send troops? I doubt it. They don't pick fights with countries who have actual militaries, they can barely beat the farmers they pick fights with as it is.

 

[syct23]

Unless the West is going to start putting boots on the ground, Ukraine will just run out of people. Tons of them are already dead and tons of them have already fled.

Where are they going to get more? The Americans going to send troops? I doubt it. They don't pick fights with countries who have actual militaries, they can barely beat the farmers they pick fights with as it is.

I guess the US came full circle, farmers beating actual militaries…

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

I guess the US came full circle, farmers beating actual militaries…

I dunno, farmers still appear to be in the lead. Pretty sure the U.S. left Iraq, Afghanistan, mostly left Syria . Gettin' trounced everywhere.

 

[syct23]

I dunno, farmers still appear to be in the lead. Pretty sure the U.S. left Iraq, Afghanistan, mostly left Syria . Gettin' trounced everywhere.

They can keep those farmers, I’m not really into eating those types of dishes..

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

They can keep those farmers, I’m not really into eating those types of dishes..

More of a caviar type?

I hear Zelensky is too.... well, as long as the American taxpayers are paying for it anyway.

 

[SandisLL]

I will not bother to read content posted by ppl I had placed in my Ignore list because in order to read more articulated posts I might just read Russian official mass media openly financed by Russian taxpayers.
Also for me isn't comfortable to read Ukr propaganda too and for a reason.

For example 1991- till invasion 2022 th Ukraine didn't had get from my country one single cartridge ....
March 2022 th was breaking point and our Minister of Defense had signed first military assistance batch for Ukraine... part from this was 36 launchers and 300 containers with missiles for MANPADS.....Ukr had get this 20 hours after he had signed bill and order paper...
Without invasion it never had happened.

 

[SandisLL]

If about artillery support for battle for Avdiivka reality is that ....Russia had used best officers they had?
Excellent artillery and mortars fire coordination and targeting, I ofc don't support Putin and his idiotism and still ..... It is something new in this war ....
Russia had managed to use pro level artillery and mortars fire support, it isn't Bakhmut. Officers looks that are real hardcore pros ...,.

 

[Strychnine]

Poor soldier, looks that it isn't like USSR military in Afganistan ( these always attempted to collect even died comrades bodies, not alone wounded comrades ).

 

[SandisLL]

EU&NATO peacekeeping mission in Kosovo.
Looks that Latvian parliament will " sign " this bill in 2 next voting sessions too. About aid to Ukr it is difficult to tell. Might appear that it might not be listed in budget bill for 2024 th or might be that will be relatively generous funding.
For them is difficult to pass budget all 3 voting sessions.

Kosovo peacekeeping stuff looks that they will easily sign for ....incl co funding. About troops they will agree to install additionally I don't know.
Ukr stuff is under big question.

 

[curryjunkie]

Con artist zelensky has been caught buying luxury yachts with US money, worth over 50 million. I wouldn't be surprised if he disappeared forever with hundreds of millions in foreign bank accounts after swindling nato and getting many of his people killed instead of making a deal

Also wouldn't be surprised if he's killed or assassinated

twat spouts bullshit, film at 11.....

 

[GhostZ06]

A handful of F-16's aren't going to be a game changer. Russia still has lots of air power left.

42 of them....... thats a big number. The other thing is, we dont really know if any of these will be upgraded and what kind of missiles they'll carry. F-16AM/BM

F-16.net - The ultimate F-16, F-35 and F-22 reference

www.f-16.net

i think most can use a mix of IRS-T and Aim-9X

Aim-120D



It will at least bring some sort of parady, but your not wrong. Mig-31 and Su-35S are still rather strong. On paper they might be able to take out a mig-31

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Hilarious this is now ending exactly the way Russia wanted it from the beginning.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Hilarious this is now ending exactly the way Russia wanted it from the beginning.

Probably the most ignorant thing I have read today, not even worth responding too.

 

[PEB]

Holy fuck what is this. I haven't been able to post on this shit site for weeks and this is what I have to read when I come back.

I heard Elon bought Sherdog expected bad times ahead.

Just kidding

 

[curryjunkie]

Hilarious this is now ending exactly the way Russia wanted it from the beginning.

yea, they planned to smash their armour, sink some of their ships, and fuck up a few hundred thousand of their soldiers while fuckin their economy...

 

[PEB]

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[AWilder]

 

[Strychnine]

I heard Elon bought Sherdog expected bad times ahead.

Just kidding

Timestamped!

 

[Hog-train]

Hopefully they get more than a handful. Pledged f-16 numbers are equal to every MLRS system sent and only 3 countries have committed so far.

I think which f-16, what munitions they are armed with and how many missiles are sent is just as important as the total numbers. If they're upgraded versions they're going to be around for a while.

Handful? I believe Denmark and Netherlands or Norway promised over 60 just between them. They will certainly be a nice tool to have in the tool box but I agree it wont be a game changer.

42 of them....... thats a big number. The other thing is, we dont really know if any of these will be upgraded and what kind of missiles they'll carry. F-16AM/BM

I've read that the Netherlands has 42 F-16's in it's fleet, but haven't made a commitment on how many will be sent. It all depends on the deliveries of the replacement F-35's which are on backorder from the States. So it will be a slow trickle. F-35's are on backorder for many countries around the world. It's going to take multiple years.

Same story with Norway - awaiting F35 delivery and the number of F16's to be donated will probably be less than 10.

Denmark has committed 19, but will also be a trickle. Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen met with Zelensky at Skrydstrup Air Base on Sunday. Frederiksen said her country will donate 19 F-16s and “hopefully” six around the new year, eight more next year, and five more in 2025. “

So the stories of Ukraine getting 60 F-16's is not really accurate. Even if they do end up getting 60, it will be multiple years before that happens.

Thus, the F-16's will not be a game changer unless other countries also commit to giving F-16's. I hope the US steps up and does do it. That will be a game changer.